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  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 1,030

    lol I love when people bring up the kill rates even though the devs said they dont mean much and should be taken with a grain of salt .

  • SkelemaniaSkelemania Member Posts: 227

    Maybe it has something to do with the fact that people cherry pick videos & make the exact same thread all day long on the forums?

    What's next, a thread about how Ruin should not have been nerfed? Or that SWF is too strong? Or that Survivors rely too much on DS, DH or Adrenaline? I know, let's talk about generator speeds!

  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 1,030

    either way you shouldnt use those statistics, not sure what you were trying to get at lol. both you and those survivors are in the wrong.

  • DwinchesterDwinchester Member Posts: 961

    My point is that nurse is bad. Believe the data or not, she's a very situational killer and not the powerhouse of old.

  • MarcusMarcus Member Posts: 2,047

    I saw a lot of people bringing these stats to justify the game being killer sided ...

  • thrawn3054thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,045

    It's called strategic camping. The Bubba that just mindlessly camps the first person they catch is obnoxious. Any fair minded player understands the difference. If they don't, they can be ignored as they're an idiot.

    As for the video, I don't have the time to watch it at the moment. I will point out that there is more to this game then being good at chases. From what I've read in the comments. Aside from a few mistakes, Ardetha did very well. The survivors apparently were smart enough to see they were out matched in chase, and rushed out as quickly as possible.

  • McLightningMcLightning Member Posts: 949

    Unpopular opinion - Ardetha, even before the Nurse nerf, is a decent killer - but he's only upper mid tier Nurse. There are people far better than him.

  • thesuicidefoxthesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,227

    "Ofc let's call out those few possible mistakes killer did and completely ignore those 10 minutes of surviors constantly messing up in any kind of stealth or mindgaming during chases since surviors can do as many mistakes as they want yet still escape."

    The David did Houdini him twice though, at very critical moments. That made a huge difference honestly.

  • LaakeriLaakeri Member Posts: 835
    edited February 2020

    Op did you link wrong video? All I saw was mediocore Nurse player making countless mistakes, even losing survivors in plain sight.

  • FibijeanFibijean Member Posts: 8,343
    edited February 2020

    Pretty much all of this was what I was thinking throughout the video. He kept saying things like "they're all immobilised, they can't do gens" when there were at least 1-3 survivors who could very easily have been working on generators, and then acting shocked when they managed to complete them. Which tells me that his game sense, not to mention his perception of his own skill, is a bit off. Saying "I'm dominating them, there's nothing they can do" over and over doesn't make it true. And the minute-long rant about DS and how he wasn't tunneling and it went off anyway, after he very blatantly tunneled Claudette off the hook, was just a bit baffling to me.

    He played well, but he didn't play perfectly. He got a 2K because the survivors were about as good if not better than him, which is how it should be. Although, to be perfectly fair, it did look to me as though he used Thrilling Tremors a fair bit, especially towards the end.

  • PiiFreePiiFree Member Posts: 1,150

    Top Tier Nurse btw.

    If that's top tier then I'm actually godlike.

  • BenZ0BenZ0 Member Posts: 3,812

    @underlord99

    You do realize that the survivors always died in seconds in a chase? He cant chase them quicker as he did there, he barely ######### up any blinks and was always doing something, never wasting is time. The only thing that hold him back was the cooldown on the blink.

    But ye.. just apply pressure i guess :)

  • BenZ0BenZ0 Member Posts: 3,812
    edited February 2020

    Ardetha is no doubt one of the best nurses in the game. But his problem is he played abit too nice, he should've tunnel and proxy camp more, then he would get his 4k. He made some poor decisions when to slug and when not, the moment when he hitted the 3th, the david, he should've left him and blink and hook the second downed. There were more poor decisions he made but overall you are right.

  • asergioamasergioam Member Posts: 362

    If his inittial strategy had worked, he would have an easy 4k but it didn't. His first mistakes begins with his first down, it was near a hook and he should have hooked nea. Not hooking her means that the survivors that didn't scream didn't let go of the gens because they knew they still had time before nea was near healed. Slugging in the beginning can be a good strategy but in this case it just back fired. I just see a god like nurse player that took bad decisions in the beggining of the match and was punished by that because she faced good survivors that worked on gens whenever they could. Plus, in the end, he just couldn't down david and wasted to much time trying to do it. Basically was punished for not hooking enough because went into the game with the intention of downing everyone and then hook and like I said in the beggining, it would have been easy 4k if it had gone well but it just didn't. Having a bad game doesn't mean it isn't ballanced... how many games did he 4k easily? One game doesn't define anything

    You're missing the point that survivors need to do gens and being a good survivor is not equivalent of being a good looper although it helps a lot.

  • EvilJoshyEvilJoshy Member Posts: 5,117
    edited February 2020

    TL:DR

    He was really good with his blinks and he was downing people very fast. However surge wasn't really doing anything for him. With all the momentum he built up Ruin may have been great for him. Or at least run PGTW or Dying Light. Thrilling Tremors just helped him find survivors, it didn't regress or stop people from doing the gens they were already working on. I probably would have tossed in NC so he could see when someone was healing the downed survivors. With those distance add ons he could have made good use of MYC. Though with all the injured he probably didn't need it. Perhaps sloppy butcher?

    As good as he was on blinks he had good add ons. The Nurse shouldn't need those add ons to be able to play well. Sadly that's what the devs reduced her too. I feel this vid highlights the core problem with playing killer. You can't pressure EVERYONE at once.

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  • KuromiStarwindKuromiStarwind Member Posts: 325
    edited February 2020

    Good survivors were able to give the best of Nurse's a run for their money prior to her nerf, so those survivors will dumpster the vast majority of Nurse's after it. Not only that but it is simply unrewarding, severely punishing, and unfun to play her now, the emphasis being on unfun. Again, just another example of the devs making the game fun for one side and unfun for the others, instead of considering both sides.

  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 1,030

    when did i say apply more pressure?? obviously he didnt do as well as he could have, he played too nice and suffered the consequences. he slugged and they got back up. dozens of mistakes made by him, as well as the survivors. but it only matters when the killer does. bc thats what makes or breaks the game.

  • LmronbyLmronby Member Posts: 339

    I think his point is that the survivors dictate the outcome of the match a lot more than the killer does

  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Funny thing is, it was the killer's mistakes that repeatedly cost them the 4k. I find it amusing how OP believes Ardetha was entitled to a 3k that game.

  • MysticMusicianMysticMusician Member Posts: 143

    My friends and I ran into a rank 1 nurse the other day who had a great setup and was amazing at blinking properly. They absolutely destroyed the whole team. I was watching a video on youtube the other day, and this guy was playing nurse, and he claims he isn't good at nurse but he was still good enough to precise blink and hit almost every time and was easy getting 4ks. It depends a lot on your setup, your skill level, and the survivors you have. Nurse has the potentially to be super crazy powerful, if you know how to play her well.

  • prdthijxafoprdthijxafo Member Posts: 6

    While I will say he played well, he also didnt have any gen pressure what so ever. He didn't patrol a single time which is something I feel alot of people dont do and they get punnished by it and blame the game. You have to patrol abd if you dont you onky have yourself to blame.

  • I think he has a point. We also cant really decide everything from a single perspective of a match. Arguments like this never go anywhere, and chases are only a part of a game. You can be a god and still lose this has always been a thing.

  • There, they gave you many reasons in a simple format. Problem solved?

  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    So you're agreeing with our posts? I wish people that made threads like this would acknowledge the mistakes the killer made.

  • KungpowaKungpowa Member Posts: 17
    edited February 2020

    My question is why do people who play killers think they are entitled to a 4k? Maybe you got outplayed. If its possible to outplay a good player who is playing a killer then that is good gameplay. Maybe you're just not as good as you think you are and aren't capable of a 4k against the type players you went against. Stop acting like just because someone plays a nurse and is good at it that means they are entitled to a 4k, because they are not.

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  • BrisingrBrisingr Member Posts: 99

    The fact that people are still defending survivors after watching (or not watching) this video boggles my mind.


    The game's outcome should be dictated by length of chases, but obviously it is dictated by whether or not people feel like doing gens.

  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    I think the killer should also be able to maintain pressure, the killer failing slugs doesn't exactly fit the definition.

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