Uh... you sure about that..? In pretty sure.. the ruin nerf is all survivors.. and survivors now want NOED gone... so....
You sound like a yellow/green TBH. Killers are struggling and that's a fact.
A lot of survivors left the game? But killer queues are near instant because there are so many survivors waiting to play.
Tell that to a mid or low tier killer in rank 1-8 like legion, pig, clow, huntress, nurse, wraith, myers, ghostface, leatherface. You get 1 kill with luck. Right now the 2 kills 2 escapes don't apply for more than half of the killers deck. Call me crazy, but the fact that so many killers are so weak in this ranks, doesn't tell you anything?
Or do you think that we just play Billy, Freddy and Spirit because we want to? The truth is that you don't have other choice in this ranks. Unless you want a 4 escapes or 1 kill to happen and be bullied the entire match. And even with top tiers if the survivor team is a full SWF, Oh my... they can be extremely powerful, with all their second chance perks.
Probably because the latest updates have been screwing Killers over far more heavily than Survivors. If the updates and changes were in reverse then people responding and screaming would he survivors.
You're right, and I think it's a major design flaw with this game. If a killer doesn't get a 4K, he may see it as a loss, which is what I feel all the time. But a 4K game is supposed to be perfect outcome, there's no middle ground that a killer will be happy with otherwise. Because the developers are trying to balance the game where killers are getting 2k per match, naturally killer mains will be upset over the difficulty to get 4Ks. It's an issue that's common with most asymmetric games.
Yo. We gotta get a 4k at least within 10 matches. After that, 90% of people wouldn't want to play killer. It's more like we desire 4Ks for half our games AT LEAST, any killer after that would start sweating every match.
The things that you reference "as it all gets taken away" were things back in day that survivors could do to really make the game unplayable for killer, like body blocking him in a corner and healing every 2 seconds. I didn't play DBD back in day but nerfs for game breaking features like that seem justifiable. To say that's its miserable now seems like you're suffering from the loss of power to abuse features like this and bully the killer on your whilm.
The 70% kill rate is another thing. We know the devs are aiming for that number to be 50%, which I'm sure the devs will try to gravitate towards with killer nerfs / survivor buffs here pretty soon. The point is it that BHVR has always tried to balance the game, even if it has taken them years to do so.
Why are people falling for this guys's bait lmao,it's clearly a bait post
Apparently the game has to be balanced around high skilled survivors. Everyone who cannot loop any killer for 5 gens straight is considered a potato who should just git gud.
For killers it’s different, there the average (against high skilled survivors) should be the point to balance. And if those have a good game, they don’t even acknowledge it and say the survs were potatoes.
I really think matchmaking is a huge problem in this game, I get matched in both sides that can be so much fun winning or loosing does not matter here that much. And rank (even red rank) does not say that much here, again on both sides.
but there are frustrating matches as well on both sides. Again not really rank-dependent. Survivors have it worse but they also get out of those matches faster, tunneled/hook suiciding. There is no way for a killer to end the match sooner.
Very specific set of conditions there. That's the thing. When people talk about gen speeds, they always find a way to make a perfect scenario for their case that will happen maybe once every 50-75 games.
I play both sides evenly and even when I manage to lose I just point out my faults during the game, like I committed too much to chase, or I didn't pressure gens enough, etc.
I played back in 2016 and i remember i waited 45 mins in swf lobby to find a game. There was serious lack of killers. Most of the time we saboed all the hooks and killer couldn't do much of anything if we stayed away from the basement. You may call it balanced but even most survivor mains admit it was quite broken time
Mortille is coming here because Killers had more to complain about to the devs. Also most people who play survivor tend to be more casual and don't go on forums.
I didn't say it was balanced then.
Also the devs placed swf on the low priority list. As a solo q survivor I'd get games relatively quickly, but wait ages in swf.
The issue wasn't lack of killers.
Why did you make this thread?
I'm not a survivor main. That's what you want to hear, so i'm gonna say it. <3
Your conflating my point.
I realise its easier to just think of it as 'salty survivor' but your wrong.
You had your 'standard' that was messed up by the introduction of swf at release, that the devs have been compensating for ever since (among other things I mentioned).
As I said, what you saw, from a rudimentary perspective is survivor nerfs, killer buffs. Go back and read what I said I didn't argue the wrong or right of balance. Im talking about how the devs mismanaged the community and have created a bias that we see on the forums.
Therefore addressing the OP post.
When it was peer to peer there were websites that tracked lobbies.
You'd consistently see 2-3 survivor to every killer. Never the inverse. However, veteran killers got preferential treatment, was what I observed at least in queues.
It was solo survivor as well. We couldn't even derank becouse the queque times were so horrible for survivor. Killer queques were literally instant. When they added exhaustion a lot of survivor mains quit playing or kept break from the game. That fixed survivor queques instantly to the point that killer queques were actually longer lmao. How do you explain this if it wasn't lack of killers?
This is bait right?
The forums are not killer biased, if anything, its people who only play ONE side and see the other, THINKING its biased. A lot of us play both sides...
If survivor has it so hard, immerse more dude.
That being said, I am, indeed, a 60/40 survivor main. Had this shot to show how bad matchmaking is rn but as you can see, purple survivor, hit red last night actually. Again.
So FOH with that "ik you're not a survivor, filthy killer mains and your bias" crap.
Did you see the games at low ranks with ruin up. Those survivors couldn't managed skill checks let alone 'ruin checks' it was a train wreck and had to change.
NOED yea.... survivor been talking about that one since release... Im sure that devs are about to drop the hammer on that one.... not -.-
Compare that to Sprint Burst which has been around the same length of time and received nerf after nerf . At release sprint burst would recharge while running and there was no such thing as 'exhaustion'.
How long have you been playing this game?
Just as much as survivors want 4 escapes. I mean who doesnt WANT to win?
But wanting to win, and expecting/thinking you deserve it, are two different things.
This game is highly competitive (although it’s not supposed to be), and one side will ALWAYS claim unfairness on the other. This is just how competition works.
You see a lot of killers here (myself included) because they are still nursing wounds from a very harsh nerfbat swing. So, naturally, they are going to be very vocal for awhile. Don’t think that survivors aren’t here barking about how killers are unbalanced as well. I have actually seen more complaining from the survivor end the last few months than I have killers (till ruin got crushed).
Why are we angry? We are angry because many of us get pushed into games that are lopsided to begin with. We want to choose a killer to play and have fun with, and some maps are strictly not very well balanced for all killers. Yes, we all hear “pressure gens more”, but some killers simply flat out lack the mobility to carry out such a task. This brings frustration on our end. Downing someone with DS LONG after they got off of the hook is just flat out annoying, especially if you weren’t tunneling to begin with. The sounds for survivor cries are still bugged... issues that have plagued us for months, and nothing. More and more is thrown on the pile, and many of us are fed up with it.
Dont you worry though, once the next round of survivor nerfs inevitably come, you’ll all be on here bitching up a storm. We will simply sit back with a bowl of popcorn and watch the explosion.
Vocal minority. 100 killers could have fine games and then go back to their daily life after a night of slaying, but one or two may post on the forums.
I know it seems like a constant barrage, but killers and survivors have always been at each others throats. It's nothing new, only the subject headlines change.
I actually play 50/50. It is a choice I made before joining the Forums.
Survivors are definitely too good right now. 5 minute games aren't fun for anyone, especially after sitting in a ten minute queue.
I don't think it is wrong if someone is a survivor or killer main, as long, as he don't lie about it. So wheres your problem thread starter?
Besides, I as example as killer main have not ask for survivor nerfs *trys to remember... no*. Sure I have sometimes say that I am bored by the one or other thing or see it as toxic, but that doesn't mean that it need to be nerfed. It just means that xyz is boring for me or toxic in my eyes.
Also I have ask for survivor perk-buffs.
Does that now destroy your view on the world, if a killermain asks for survivor perk buffs (even if it is for I need to admit selfish reasons)?
But I need to admit, I see here a lot killer nerf threads from time to time... Just to be baity too :P... :).
Why would you think that for some reason only killer mains utilize the forums? Assuming your statement is correct, why wouldnt the other 80% of the playerbase utilize the forums?
How about those games where it takes 3 minutes for 4 gens to pop?
For real lol, im getting these tomes done fast as crap, im doing solo queue survivor for these btw, but ive done all the escape tome challenges now.
I’m a survivor main, since you “know”, prove my statement wrong.
Clearly lying, all people who claim to be a survivor main are secretly killer spies.