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  • mmorrow8mmorrow8 Member Posts: 59

    As someone who plays survivor 85% of the time but has enough experience for both sides I feel like I need to say some stuff. First off, SWF aren't really a big problem in my eye. I've had little to no problems killing them and when I play SWF all we really say is what killer it is and if the killer camps. We don't go all out and set up specific builds to piss the killer off. Secondly, if you can't apply gen pressure for the first few gens it doesn't mean you lose. If they don't have good gen placement they have a low chance of getting out as long as you've killed someone, and even if you haven't if you're a good enough killer you can pull it off. Plus gen speeds aren't that bad, it typically takes a minute or two to get one popped in my matches as killer. Third off, as killer I run perks that aren't all that aren't recommended for people with the same main but they work beautifully and I don't have to run it constantly to get 4ks. As survivor, I run the same build 90% of the time because the other perks either never work in my favor, or are extremely worthless in my opinion. Of course this is also based on play style so if I played differently I'd have different builds, which I've done for videos and it's about 50/50 when it comes to survival chances. Lastly, if you're playing a low tier killer and/or is on a unbalanced map then you have a lower chance of success based on what killer you are and whether the survivors are smart on that map or not. What I typically use is Spies from the Shadows, it's actually pretty underrated ngl and it's very helpful because one little notification can destroy the survivors in an instant. I also use Unrelenting, NOED, and I think Bloodhound. I keep on confusing the two with the wolf heads but whatever one makes the blood brighter, that's what I bring. (As a survivor main I used to complain bout NOED but I know how useful it can be sometimes, it's not always clutch because I can usually get more than half the people killed before EGC). The majority of the "Oh it's killer sided" and "Oh it's survivor sided" is based on view and personally I think that there are certain areas where it's killer sided and some areas were it's survivor sided, but i can definitely see both sides of the argument.

  • Melted_Melted_ Member Posts: 7
    edited March 2020

    lmao crutch perks aren't mandatory. that many survivors just suck to the point they think they need 16 crutches. none of them need buffed, either. they're strong enough as they are now. thinking they need a buff leads back to you not being good

  • SteveStevensonSteveStevenson Member Posts: 3

    It just looks like they got a gen and he tunneled them down like most killers. If he was a good killer I would feel for him but damn. The hook monitoring was real. However to respond to the issue people are concerned about, just put gen pressure on and then you don't have to worry about it.

  • InTheBushes321InTheBushes321 Member Posts: 72

    Maybe because he's in the top .1% of killers? The question is "how does an average killer deal with this", and this answer is, "they don't", which is why this game is losing killers.


    I can't believe people are stupid enough to respond with "but it's a 4k" or posts like yours, ignoring the fact that this guy is an extremely skilled streamer and likely one of the best killers in the game.

  • danielmaster87danielmaster87 Member Posts: 6,491

    To me, it shouldn't even be possible to complete a gen in less than 60 seconds.

  • danielmaster87danielmaster87 Member Posts: 6,491

    Survivors have a million ways to avoid all that. You make it sound as if pallets and loops and perks don't exist.

  • doodledotdoodledot Member Posts: 70

    Holy ######### I never saw so much ######### complaining in my life. Normal people when they don't like a game they quit playing it. But no, all of you hop on your flip phones and started sweating on the forums. Just shut the ######### up

  • DoingGens_YouDoingGens_You Member Posts: 10

    Otz is literally one of the best killers in DBD. If he decides to sweat he can usually 4k unless the survivors are gods.

  • OberonOberon Member Posts: 84

    The most puzzling part of this comment is that you think people use flip phones...

  • OberonOberon Member Posts: 84

    I was under the impression that the only flip phones with internet capability were the Galaxy Z and the Motorola Razr... And I don't think everyone is going to be spending $900 and $1500, respectively, on flip phones...

  • OkoruOkoru Member Posts: 144

    Yo

    survivors don't HAVE to run these perks to live. Survivors run these perks because they're the most OP survivor perks. There are plenty of people not running the standard 4 perks and still very successful.

  • TheLonerTheLoner Member Posts: 1

    What if you don't want to have to play optimized killer builds? What if you want to experiment and try to find something that you enjoy? A build should be one possible way to play the game, not a necessity to win.

  • CashelP14CashelP14 Member Posts: 5,519

    You can experiment but then don't complain if gens might go too fast. If I get tunnelled after unhooking, I can't complain if I don't run ds.

    Good builds aren't a necessity to win but they are the best possible way of winning. Most games you can be ok with bad builds but if you face a good team on a bad map then don't complain that you got gen rushed when using your average build.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 7,493

    how can that be the killers fault when he literally didnt even had the chance to walk over there and defend it?

    27 seconds is insane, there is literally nothing you can do against that as killer.

    "just apply map pressure", am i right?


    and lets be honest, if that team had been a decent team / if it had been a killer that is not godlike like Otz, they would have had quite an easy round of DbD.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 7,493

    which, again, has nothing to do with the main topic.

    the topic is that they repaired a gen in 27 seconds. the outcome of the match is a completely different story - and ive seen the video, they literally threw the game.

  • Young_AYoung_A Member Posts: 13

    Keep in mind there's 4 survivors doing gens meanwhile there's one killer,I'm just pointing this out because a killers job is legit to kill, what else is he supposed to do? Go guard his totems? Even with survivors being afk or hiding there's still 3 people as to the one killer.. I love it like that and wouldn't want to see it change I love the asymmetrical aspect of dbd but I feel like people forget that that does make things harder for the killer. Also not trying to hate, just food for thought type thing

  • devilmurderer34devilmurderer34 Member Posts: 2

    I agree, when i'm playing as survivor almost every game i get found first and then tunneled and camped. i try to run builds but it just leads back to me getting tunneled and even with DS it only gives me like and extra minute before i get caught and hooked again, and the game is so laggy with the servers that it makes it hard to hit DS.

  • TeshieTeshie Member Posts: 19

    Because Killers play solo against 4. Also not fair? Killers need 12 hooks while survivors need 5 gens.

  • frostthejackfrostthejack Member Posts: 9

    Killer here. Grow up. That looks like a good have to me. Are you seriously complaining that survivors managed to get gens done?

  • Sasorii19Sasorii19 Member Posts: 27

    It's called get good and run Noed like a bum

  • Thanatos_xThanatos_x Member Posts: 201

    In theory survivors would only have to spend 135 seconds on gens and they would all be done. And that wasn't even all 4 survivors on one gen lol, it was probably only two honestly. But no, gens are fine. Just get better at the game lol, why wasn't he using Corrupt Pop Discordance and Thrilling Tremors I mean clearly he doesn't know how to play smh.... Don't cry about gen times if you don't use x perks every single game! Self righteous killer mains sigh

  • ad19970ad19970 Member Posts: 4,652

    I mean I completely agree that this video proves nothing, and that this is no proof at all that killers are underpowered, but how does this show that this game is fairly killer sided?

  • shmox11shmox11 Member Posts: 2

    So you have never played against Billy when 3 of you were on a gen? First person gets downed before they knew what was happening.


    2nd is downed a couple seconds after that after he lights up the chainsaw again.


    3rd is trying to help other downed member and gets cut down.


    Now if is completely up to the 4th person to try to stay hidden while saving the team. I've had games end up like this within the first 3-5 mins of the match.


    I'm not a good player but that stuff is just dumb. " Wonder who the killer is?" Chainsaw noises..." Nvm, I'm down. He is after you now...I'll just crawl away and lay here hoping someone will help"

  • CrispyChestnutsCrispyChestnuts Member Posts: 175

    It does in that it doesn't seem like there's a problem.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 7,493

    so by the same logic:

    if i use the strongest killer with their strongest add ons and the strongest offering, screw up somewhere in the game and only end up getting a 2k, that means all of what i just used is perfectly fine and balanced, as i got 2 kills - the devs balance goal.

    or when i massively screw up and only get 1 kill, that means all of what i just used is underpowered and needs buffs, as the balance goal is 2 kills.


    see the flawed logic there?

    the outcome of my game does not determine the power level of the things i used.

    its the exact same with this scenario: the outcome of the game does not determine whether the gen popping 27 seconds in was balanced or not.

    thats two entirely different stories.

  • CrispyChestnutsCrispyChestnuts Member Posts: 175

    Lol nice straw man you're arguing with, what'd you name him?

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