You played killer.
As killer i agree, DS is more anti-momentum in high rank. Which really sucks because you're actually getting punished for quick downs and hooks.
But as a solo survivor it's not really a game if the killer starts slugging with 5 gens left like some billys, nurses and onis do.
This thread really just seems to be complaining that survivor perks exist and are sometimes able to be used, lol
How is that a punishment? I'm betting you still won the game. And if you didn't, that seems more like your fault than Decisive Strike's fault. So you weren't being punished. The survivors were given a chance. That's all that happened. "Oh no, I have three survivors down, and another one is running from me. Whatever will I do. This is why I hate decisive strike!"
If DS is punishment for killer 'doing too well' then NoED is punishment for survivor 'doing too well'.
This doesn't happen in civilization
Are you a dev, where’s their quote that this isn’t how they intended it?
They literally programmed it to punish you if you picked someone up within one minute... any special circumstance or exception you have outside of that is you trying to make a “killer rule book,” which we killers are so quick laugh at survivors for.
just to be clear this conversation and thread isn’t just about DS, very few threads ever really are... it’s about the unwritten rules survivors expect killers to follow and the proper etiquette killers want survivors to follow
Shall we go back to where they said it WAS an anti tunnel perk? Only now that people have constantly pointed out the bullshit in their redesign to they now try and say it's not an anti tunnel perk.
So now they either have to admit they ######### up making an anti-tunnel perk (which they won't do) or change their narrative behind the perk (which is what they're starting to do). I'd rather stick with facts instead of watching the devs play their butt-covering games thinking that people won't remember what they said and just listen to what they say now.
It’s not an anti-tunnel perk, they admit that, killers know it, even most survivors admit that.
But as killers we know what it does, if there is an obsession and you done someone quickly after unhook your have to decide...
A. Slug them, this isn’t such a bad option as it forces someone to come pick them up (batting unbreakable)
B. Pick them up and eat the DS, just get it out of the way.
C. Pick them up and be surprised they don’t actually even have DS, woot woot!!!
They called it an anti-tunnel perk. Now they're realizing it's not performing its role so now they're acknowledging that it isn't an anti-tunnel perk.
They're not saying it's not an ani-tunnel perk, they're admitting that it isn't an anti-tunnel perk. A slight difference, but an important one. It's not fulfilling the role they redesigned it for.
DS is not solely an anti-tunnel perk. Negating tunneling is a primary use; like many perks - it's not its only possible use. It worked as intended.
It's not even that bad. The best thing is when they abuse DS, saving, taking hits, jumping to a locker or do gen in front of you because they have unbreakable and ds.
Simply change: If other survivor was hooked your ds is no longer active. Problem fixed.
Maybe she had unbreakable? As a killer you need to pick up and get ds'd or let her use unbreakable to save everyone. Because she is untouchable for 60s
Any one of those people could have had unbreakable, as I've mentioned. It makes sense to pick up the most recovered survivor first and go back for her later. She'll need to recover for a while anyway before she can get back up while the other guys could be at 99% already.
Yes I got it. But it's just makes no sense that killer is forced to ignore this survivor for 60s. There could be 4 same looking survs with similar names and he wouldn't even know that was her. It can be fixed really easy as I wrote.
Right, except you don't have to wait 60 seconds unless you do actually tunnel them directly off the hook. In this case, her DS was almost up and the OP could have waited just a few more seconds (hooked one of the other survivors first) and it would have run out.
Right. Maybe if you were downed before other surv was hooked DS last 60s. But if you were up while other surv was being hooked you should make enough distance.
Btw. Thanks for responding
*laughs in noed* just like that perk punishes survivors for playin good... Js
And yet noed has a counter do bones and even has perks to help do bones and you have a team to help do bones and you have the first 3 gens popping in 1 minute to put all the pressure on the killer giving you time to do bones lets compare that to ds counter slug so they can use unbreakable or ignore them so they can jump on a gen for 60 seconds yea totally the same
Except that's exactly what it was redesigned to do according to the devs in the Q&A about it.
Ds is couterable too u know, and the games i experience, i have bots that don't do bones, they are 100% allergic, most ppl tbh don't even run unbreakable, but that's only in ma experience, just simply chase after them again, who gives a sh** if u get called a tunneler, I'm forever bein tunneled, and aye ma definition of tunnel is actually me only bein focused on therefore half the time i have no choice to use, not everyone abuses it
I just described the only counters to ds both hurt you and screw your momentum and its not a killers problem if you have bad teammates that just the nature of being on a team you reap the rewards for the good they do and you take the bad
No of course it's not the killers problem, I'm just sayin not everyone abuses DS, and if ur team mates wanna play like tatties floodin to a hook for a save that's on them, i wouldn't need to use this perk if i wasn't bein tunneled into oblivion half the time, ik it sucks bein killer I've been there so i can empathise with killer mains believe it or not on how they use the locker ds bs, idk perhaps it can be nerfed to 30secs or somethin
Good killer or not, this clip did not help him with his argument. That being "tunneling" the survivor with DS, and his poor choices while in game. He could've just picked the other survivors but didn't.
Didn't get your 4k under 60 seconds...feels bad man :(