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Why is there no Vote Down?

majorkaosmajorkaos Member Posts: 29

Are we worried we might hurt feelings? Most of the time the replies are brutal so why not add a Vote Down arrow beside the Vote Up?

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  • myersismydaddymyersismydaddy Member Posts: 232

    So, you're saying that someone can potentially use bots to boost their upvote count as well? That is one way to push one's agenda while playing make-believe that the community agrees with them.

    Maybe the option of people being able to upvote should only be enabled in certain parts of the forum, such as the artwork/bugs section.

  • ZoneDymoZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946

    Well why have upvotes then still? I mean that just skews the idea entirely.

    Unless you always have the immediate counter view posts that can get its own upvotes.

  • MegaWaffleMegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,173

    @myersismydaddy

    Do you see validity based on upvotes?

    The problem with downvotes is that it was abused (as Peanits said) and just generally added more negativity when we don't need it. You can boost upvotes all you want but it does nothing to tear an individual down.

    Personally neither bothered me, though I do miss the "Lol" button become most of my stuff is shitpost material ( ._.)

  • myersismydaddymyersismydaddy Member Posts: 232

    I disagree. I believe that someone posting an opinion on something, and the first comment disagreeing with them gets 60 upvotes is very much tearing an individual down. If that same person is easily "triggered" he might jump on that fact and you get the us versus them fight in the comment section, as usual.

    Let's say I have a bunch of bots to upvote me. Let's say I make a really dumb, controversial topic like "All killers should have insta-down as base M1 hit." I use the bots to give myself 100 upvotes. What do you think the people who play survivor would do? Exactly, I just triggered a huge portion of the community, just for my personal laughs. I hope you can see what I meant from this viewpoint.

  • DeadeyeDeadeye Member Posts: 2,853

    I also think there are no people trying to abuse upvotes ^^

  • GrannyonAcidGrannyonAcid Member Posts: 476

    Wow. Imagine using a bot to downvote people's posts on a games forum.

  • majorkaosmajorkaos Member Posts: 29

    Somebody has too much time? :-)

  • Science_GuyScience_Guy Member Posts: 1,206

    Downvotes were terrible both times they were implemented and absolutely don't need to come back. They were completely toxic and stifled any genuine dissenting opinion, and that's a terrible fit for a community as hopelessly partisan as DBD.

    Eh, getting downvoted versus having someone you're arguing with getting upvoted just isn't the same thing. Hence why people don't do abuse it as much (if at all) now like they did in the past. A random passerby saying "Yeah, I like that guy's point!" is not the same thing as "Wow, you suck!/You're wrong!/LOL you moron!". The point of spamming downvotes isn't to make someone else look right, it's to make the other person feel stupid.

  • FrekiFreki Member Posts: 1,149

    I was one of the ones affected by these down vote bots. because I posted my opinion about a topic, I also put proof of my opinions in the messages that was actually contrary to the line of thought and proved it wrong. Suddenly there was a mass of down votes. I didn't give a damn about them I laughed when it happened. suddenly I didn't see them anymore so I asked I think it might have been peanits (could have been another mod) and they told me the same thing. I said cool! but I went on. the idea is GREAT to have an up or a down vote option but more often where the down vote is it is used to try to demoralize people to stop them from posting their opinion (right or wrong). the upvote is just ignored unless people like what is being said. can it be abused as well? yes it can but generally people don't worry about it.


    the general populace will be very long at replying to something they like but very quick to oppose (down vote) or argue a point they feel is wrong. this is the same about "reviews" of products, it gets positive reviews but more people will just end up with more negative because of this fact.

  • PeanitsPeanits Dev, Community Manager Posts: 6,404

    You can upvote the posts you like, or if you disagree, find a post that explains why you disagree (or make one yourself) and upvote that. A lot of people use it as a way to say, "I agree with this." without having to copy and paste what the other guy said, or quote them and say "This."

  • myersismydaddymyersismydaddy Member Posts: 232

    Quick question - doesn't the browser authentication (sorry if I got that wrong) somewhat block the bots from pulling stunts like that? Or are they somehow still going through that without much resistance?

  • PeanitsPeanits Dev, Community Manager Posts: 6,404

    Yes and no. Yes, it would stop someone from doing that on a massive scale (hundreds of accounts). But no, on a small scale, it wouldn't stop someone from having a bot run on one account. It's more to prevent DDOS attacks than a single person going to different pages.

  • myersismydaddymyersismydaddy Member Posts: 232

    How about setting a time limit then? 5 upvotes/downvotes per, I don't know, one minute, maybe more/less? Or maybe even having the system recognize weird behaviour like it does with spamming. So that it prevents "spamming" upvotes/downvotes until a mod reviews the account and confirms it is legit. I'd imagine that this would put quite the strain on the mods here, though.

  • ZoneDymoZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946

    Yes I get that, that is what I said though.

    You can only agree, you cannot disagree.

    The only thing then is to make a new post purely to disagree and have upvotes on that, which is just a tad silly all in all.

  • PeanitsPeanits Dev, Community Manager Posts: 6,404

    I don't feel like it's all too silly. That is the point of the forums, after all; to discuss things. If everyone's just clicking a button instead of actually explaining why they disagree, there's no discussion going on.

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