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  • kazakunkazakun Member Posts: 581

    I'm not a young guy,bud. Cult classic and horror icon are too totally different things. I'd honestly even exclude Alien from that category,but it's remained relevant through sequels and spin offs,spoofs, whatever. Candyman really didn't withstand the test of time. Could maybe say he's relevant because of the new movie,I dunno.

    I've been a massive horror fan my whole life. As far as legendary humanoid killers,I'd say they have every one besides Chucky,Pinhead,and Jason(even exclude Pinhead to be fair). Candyman was never as popular or withstood the test of time like some of these others. It's just my opinion.

    The first film did horrible in the theater,and the sequels were worse. I think the 3rd was direct to video. I'm just looking at it from the perspective of a diehard horror fan. I'm not even really arguing that it couldn't be. Just saying by the way it's been worded so far,I disagree.

    So far all the licensed ones have been instantly recognizable to pretty much everyone. I never saw a single episode of Stranger Things,but I knew what it was. You're going to find a ton of people that don't know who Candyman is. I'm sure when they have the teaser video it'll become a bit easier to guess. If I'm wrong,you can come back and tell me :)

  • kazakunkazakun Member Posts: 581

    Also Candyman is considered Sci-Fi...not that I necessarily agree, but by genre definition. And I still say that brings us back to Alien for the genre. Maybe it'll be something crazy like the Babadook lol. There's only a few genres within horror,and they have most of the icons. Maybe it's super classic like Hammer Horror or Universal style. Dracula or Frankenstein or something.

  • DarKnight_DoomDarKnight_Doom Member Posts: 54

    My interpretation is not only about "hive minds" aliens. I created a discussion where I agrouped some others "clues" about a possible Alien chapter.

    But no problem if we don't get an Alien chapter, a Candyman chapter is very welcome and I would like to look to a survivor and say: "Be my victim!" >=)

  • AnarKaosAnarKaos Member Posts: 21
    edited May 2020


    In what hole in the wall video store is "Candyman" considered Sci-Fi?


    "Jason X", the Xenomorph movies (including the recent "prequel" stuff)...absolutely. "Deadly Friend" flirts with the overlap of horror and science fiction. The newest "Child's Play" is definitely a sci-fi bend on the classic horror franchise.

    But "Candyman" is pure horror/thriller with zero sci-fi aspects. So, no, by genre definition it is NOT science fiction.

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  • kazakunkazakun Member Posts: 581

    Bro I have no idea. I said I didn't know if I agree. I saw it on the New York Times and the Wiki. Maybe they confused it with the book called Candy Man. No idea. A lot of the websites that do reviews for the original or previews of the new one have "science fiction" in their name. The Wiki says it "had a significant influence on science fiction". Maybe it's for the supernatural aspect,or the fact that they are comparing it to Clive Barker's other stuff or the original story itself. Sci Fi doesn't always mean aliens,spaceships,and robots. But yeah man,not trying to argue something I'm not sure about myself. Just got caught up in a discussion and saw it while I was looking for something else. I don't think any of the 3 films is a pure slasher either, because of the supernatural/folklore aspect.

  • bobcat946732bobcat946732 Member Posts: 816

    Honestly I think Candyman is going to be the next killer after whoever this is. The next two chapters are both licenced so I see no reason why he can't be the killer after this one. Everyone will forget about the bee stuff by then and BAM! They were all references to him but just not this chapter.

    They said this killer is a "classic" and marked the world of horror but most people don't even know who he is outside of more serious horror fans. I only know him through Dead Meat and when I think "Classic" killers he certainly isn't among my list and definitely isn't as common a household name as Jason, Freddy or some others.

    I'd have no issue if it was Candyman but I wouldn't be all that excited either.

  • kazakunkazakun Member Posts: 581

    It could be a needle. Three needles,one of them going towards a skull. Like Pinhead. That's if the picture means anything at all. Guy at Leaks by Daylight made a convincing argument for it. Both related to Clive Barker. Both sorta similar in genre. I really want someone to be right. If it's any of the ones people mentioned,I'd be happy with it. Really don't want it to be something even less people heard of than Candyman. That would just bother me for some reason.

  • kazakunkazakun Member Posts: 581

    The site does say "A classic license" lol. I wouldn't even be mad if it was Darth Vader. But Disney would never go for that. People need to think about the fact there's a survivor too. If they go Candyman,I guess it'd have to be Helen or the guy from the new movie. The sequels didn't go over well.

    They also say "marked the horror world since it's inception". That to me sounds like something more than just Candyman. Had one movie that didn't do great and became a cult classic,two sequels that did worse,and then nothing for going on 20 years now.

    The teaser image does usually mean something. I've been trying to come up with anything that has to do with skulls or gold. Haven't come up with anything lol. I even dwelled on the words "marked" and "mysterious" (survivor) on the site description. You'd think it's be easier to guess a licensed one.

    Emotional to me makes it sound like someone was dying to get this license and was super happy. Maybe an inspiration for the game or something they loved since they were a kid. I see where the thought of Jason could be coming from.

    I feel like if it was Candyman they could've just popped a picture of a hook up and been done. There's already hooks in the game. They read the forums. That'd be no different than showing a video of a chain or an Egyptian looking thingy pic and watching peoples imagination go wild. Not long until we find out anyways.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492

    I think I have 5 EUR on my PayPal. Let's see who's right.

  • GomolazoliGomolazoli Member Posts: 336
  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492

    If I had 100 USD to spare, I'd take you up on that. Easy money.

  • GomolazoliGomolazoli Member Posts: 336

    I don’t know why some people are so confident that it’s Candyman. The only reason he’s a thing now because he’s getting a movie. But way after the next chapter release.

    If it’s him, than BHVR is banking on the movie being soo good people will buy the game just for him which sounds foolish. But as for now he’s a pretty much unknown character nowhere near to the horror icons that the Devs said they are looking for.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492

    Before the Candyman film was set to release "way after the next chapter release", it was set to release very close to the next chapter release. Guess what happened in the mean time?

  • GomolazoliGomolazoli Member Posts: 336

    My point stands. The description they gave us of the next chapter simply doesn’t fit this character at all. Even if he becomes a great icon that everyone knows and gets a couple of movies after this one (which I highly doubt) the next killer is supposed to be that great by the time of the next chapter like Jason or Pennywise.

    And the twitter leak is obviously missleading. It littearly says “hey it’s candyman” despite noone is alloved to leak it out. If anything that tweet means it’s gonna be anyone but Candyman. At least for this chapter.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492

    "It's too obvious, clearly they must be deceiving us."

    When have the devs ever done something like that in the past four years? Please, point out some examples so your statement (summarized above) has some weight to it.

  • GomolazoliGomolazoli Member Posts: 336

    It works the other way around. When did they leaked something soo hard soo obvously before? Never. They built a lot if hype for this chapter because it’s gonna be something special. Fake teasing is a good strategy to keep people guessing and make them excited. If it would be candyman in the end, it would be the most dissapointing thing they ever done.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492
    edited May 2020

    Stranger Things, from what I hear.

    If it ends up not being Candyman in the end, it would actually be the most disappointing thing they'd ever done. Being misleading isn't clever or amusing, it's just annoying for everyone who's hyped by the thing they're pretending is coming.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 2,637

    Fake teasing would be another thing though.

    this is them hyping up specifically for Candyman and if it turns out not to be Candyman, many people will be disappointed. It would be different if they made obvious red herrings for more than one license, but as it stands only Candyman gets this. All other hints and clues people are basing their speculations on are vague.

  • GomolazoliGomolazoli Member Posts: 336

    Following the voice actors of Nancy and Steve on twitter shortly before the chapter hits the PTB. And leaking bees and honey since the first of April is not the same thing. Sure I don’t get the Candyman stuff either. Could be the next chapter since it’s going to be licensed also, but certanly not this one.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492

    Tony Todd followed them on Twitter (or vice-versa, can't remember which). Any other parallels you'd like to draw between the hints for Stranger Things and the hints for Candyman?

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492

    That's exactly my point. To paraphrase something I saw in a YouTube video, if I tell you we're going to Disneyland and take you to a shopping mall instead, that's not clever, it's just being a liar.

  • GomolazoliGomolazoli Member Posts: 336

    The real hype is not built by the Candyman hints but by what they said about the size of this chapter. And again, Candyman is not iconic or well known, and he did nothing for the horror genre other than being a mostly failed franchise. It would make zero sense for him to be in the chapter after being described like that.

    People expect crazy things like Alien or Pyramidhead. But the only characters that actually fits to what they said is Jason and Pennywise. Getting a Candyman release after all of this would make a lot more people dissapointed from what I see here. But sure they can’t make everyone happy. Press F for the few who actually know Candyman and want him to be in the next chapter. But it’s not happening 100%.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492

    How do bees and sweets/candy fit either of those characters?

  • GomolazoliGomolazoli Member Posts: 336

    They were trolling. Can’t bleve you can’t see that. I feel like you only saw these random hints and missed out what they actually said.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492

    Evidence of Candyman is evidence it's not Candyman. Gotcha.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 2,637

    i was googling a little bit because I have asked as well and never got an answer:

    In March 2018 they teased Jeepers Creepers with some wording of „every 23 years“ either in a stream or tweet. This was a direct hint but turned out to be not true and later they said that Jeepers Creepers is out of question because of the director/license holder.

    They also followed Stephen King and some people related to The Walking Dead after the following of the actors of Nancy and Steve, which isn’t a direct hint but also makes the whole following Tony Todd thing irrelevant. (He still did he has voiced for a video game though)

  • GomolazoliGomolazoli Member Posts: 336

    They have no reason to hype up an unknown character so much whith hints everywhere. If it’s Candyman they might as well put his hook next the aniversary poster.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 17,492

    The first Candyman film premiered in Canada and became a cult film. Unknown to you doesn't mean unknown to them.

    His hook wouldn't mean much, the game is already full of hooks.

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