Campers and tunnelers on blast.
Misann0830
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It was an issue before, but it seems that, especially in the last week or so, it has gotten way out of hand. I main survivor but I play as a killer, too and no matter what, I try to play fair. Camping and tunneling isn't playing fair at all. In fact, I see it as cheating. If you cannot get sacrifices without playing fairly, then you shouldn't be playing at all. I've been saving screen shots and gameplay of anyone using these tactics and I'm seriously considering putting everyone on blast.
Anyone trying to defend these tactics is just as guilty. I don't care what you say, it's unfair and uncalled for.
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pyramid head only made this worse. everything in terms of fairness and balance thats been faught and advocated for, for years was tossed out the window because of him. its sad
So killing people in probably the most efficient way is cheating in your eyes? Strange.
It is. It's like Pyramid Head gave the okay for people to play like a**holes and it's crap. I've noticed that EVERY single person I've been in a match with who is playing as PH has camped and tunneled and just made the whole game experience crappy. It makes it unfair for everyone and not fun in the slightest this is one my favorite games and I've considered just not playing anymore altogether. It's not just PH either, I've noticed it's just gotten so much worse all the way around.
nowadays it is logical to tunnel and facecamp:
Solution? risk something innovating with new objectives, game modes, rewards...
Doing this is fairly pointless, given the many killers who use these strategies, and will likely get you moderated.
Separate from that, if a freshly unhooked player doesn't bother healing & works on a vital gen, what do you expect me to do? Let them use chivalry as invincibility, walk all over me and win, because otherwise that's tunneling? I'm assuming you're using the broadest sense of these terms given how you seem to feel.
Make a lesser form of DS base kit. Bringing DS the perk gives increased duration for the effect.
No disrespect, but don't assume. And no, I don't consider that tunneling. If a freshly unhooked player has the time to do anything else at all, that's not tunneling. I'm talking about being unhooked just to get knocked RIGHT back down and hooked again. I'm talking about literally standing by a hooked player and not letting any if their teammates attempt to save them. That's also how a survivor gets points... so yeah, it's unfair and just cheating. Survivors can't do anything to a killer aside from a pallet or flashlight. There's literally no need to camp unless you just can't play.
It's not like that. I don't care about your opinion. I use this account for no reason but soon i will use it to make my voice heard. The reason i called my reply a mistake is because at this rate im looking for a fight, which means looking for a ban. I don't want to get censored before speaking my opinion. Posts like yours tend to get bad, and that is why i said i am looking for a fight (just above). The last one i was in got deleted. If i get banned without saying my opinion again, then i wont feel bad since they probably dont care anyways. This forum is practically useless. This is simply an echo chamber.
So I guess the devs and forum mods themselves are guilty since they defend the tactic as a legitimate playstyle?
Sorry champ. Camping is A-Ok. Just don't get caught ;)
As long as DS exists everything is fair and everything is called for.
I see. And I can dig it.
So what, exactly, is your opinion?
This pretty much. Also if you're desperate enough to not get tormented, you can always run away from the loops that PH makes trails at, and take the M1. That way you always have your DS available when you get unhooked.
It's not cheating. If you don't use light tunneling/proxy camping on occasion as killer you are gimping yourself for some false sense of fairness. First off obviously tunneling off hook and facecamping is bad. I don't support that, but to call either strategy "cheating" as a whole is naive and really shows you play a whole lot more survivor than killer.
If a myers or bubba has some basement hooks and people want to swarm that's fair game to me. If a wraith wants to bait leaving a hook and come back to go after the unhooker that's fine with me too. Those are both examples of camping, but completely alright in my eyes as in one situation the survivors put themselves in that spot and the other is them going after the person that hasn't been hooked already.
Everyone already knows that actually tunneling and camping are BAD strats and won't get you wins against good players. If you want to win you need to work down 2-3 players hook wise while pressuring gens. Tunneling one person or camping while gens pop in the background is just gonna hand you Ls. I don't know where survivors have gotten this idea that tunneling and camping are these amazing strats. They're only good in certain situations. Especially with the common BT/DS/Unbreakable combo.
Obviously I wish the devs would just get better at balancing the game so meta perks don't need to be run. I don't like always having to bring a slowdown perk or two. That means you get less creative builds and it's boring, but that's the state of the game.
DS is almost literally useless...it's pretty much no different than dropping a pallet to stun. I ran DS to try to combat being tunneled and it is just useless.
Actually, I usually take a minute to work on gens... mainly because I want to get a feel for what I'm up against. Killers can see all the gems, and can patrol them to keep them from getting finished. They can run ruin and discord among other perks. Some killers can knock you down in one hit, some killers can mark you and expose you so they can knock you down in one hit. Killers can actually hurt you and eliminate you from the game completely, causing you to lose bloodpoints, rank progress, and even your item you brought in. Survivors literally have very limited options. If you have to camp for kills, then get better or don't play.
What even is 'playing fair'? As killer, I'm up against survivors who use every trick in the book to gain the upper hand, but if I do the same thing then I'm "sweaty", "cheap", or I "don't belong in my rank". If you want to talk about fairness, then start by not demonizing killers for trying to do their objective.
I agree with you 100%
Someones never played killer past rank 20
While I appreciate your sentiment, but I'm a girl. And while I may be new to the forums, I'm not at all new to the game. I'm a rank 4 survivor.
I can handle being bullied. Especially playing this game lol.
I disagree. It seems I get 30k+ more easily by not camping. Tunneling all good. Slugging, viable. But camping as a killer is a good way to depip.
I have multiple screenshots on my steam of people saying the game was fun, gg, intense ect by not camping them. Camping is what you do before you learn the game and realise it doesn't get you points.
If you camp 1 kill, the survivors will do 4 gens in that time. If you let them be unhooked you can damage gens, get another chase... which distracts the survivors from objectives, buying time and also gains more points.
When i play killer i get point by kicking a gen so if im closing in to the generator survivor are working on by your logic they should stop doing the gen so i can kick it but instead if the gen is almost done they finish it in my face so i lose my precious point because of that so i will still use your logic that is call cheating in a scense because they deny me of my precious point
Okay, maybe so...but how often does this actually happen? Killers have all the means to stop survivors without playing dirty.
Nope. Because you can actually grab them off the gen without chasing them ot knocking them down...so yeah, nope...not the same.
THIS! Like I said, I main survivor but I play as a killer pretty often. You get so much more accomplished and so many more points by not camping. It also evens out the pointing process and gives everyone a fair chance to level...to gain something out of the game. I get that a killer's objective is to, well...kill, but that doesn't mean you have to make playing the game miserable for everyone else.
Actually, killer rank 10. And that's because O main survivor and play fairly as a killer. I'd rather lose by playing fair than to win playing like a jerk.
Right...
Not saying you have to tunnel all game or even camp. But you don't get to call out people who do it. It's a play style/strategy whether you like it or not.
In certain scenarios you do have to tunnel or "camp" as it were. Not all game. But when survivors are bum rushing the hook, you just gonna walk away or "camp" and punish them?
same, I don't mind losing. But I like to win by playing fair. I am only rank 8/9 killer. I don't play survivor. I do enjoy intense games, 10 hook actions is good lol
I'll post a discussion about it later today. It's completely unrelated to the topic of this discussion.
I didn't mean to bully this user. If you think any of what i said is bullying, chances are you are sensitive or haven't seen other people who act the similar way in posts like these. Those people tend to get lots of upvotes by saying such things; you can't miss them.
That's completely different. I know that so many people complain about this same thing, the difference is that I actually know what camping is. I actually know what tunneling means. I'm not complaining about it to just be complaining or because I want easy wins. I'm complaining because it's legit a problem and it makes the whole game just a sh*tty experience.
Exactly. Some people take this whole thing so seriously. I do too, but not so much that I try to take away from everyone or take the fun out of it because I played unfair. Besides, if I win, I want it to be because I played fair and did it on my own. That's way more rewarding than camping and getting easy kills. That's when you can actually know that you're the better player, at least for that match lol.