You must have been pretty damn quick on the pulse to get yourself the name Deathslinger major kudos to you
I’m not denying that happened, but I’m not a part of that group. I don’t even know who the existing gay character is or that it was hinted at, because the lore doesn’t matter to me enough to notice every detail.
The post I responded to in your quote of me seems like an outcry - saying we ALL should be pushing for something.
This is horror please leave your gamer issues in COD
You were referring to outcry over not having explicitly LGBT characters in the game, which that person was not complaining about. Their complaint was about you.
I'll repeat myself ad nauseam if I must, until it really sinks in: there was no outcry about the lack of LGBT characters in the game. The only outcry came from people who don't want explicitly LGBT characters in the game.
So since you said this:
I don’t have a problem what gets added, just the unnecessary outcry if it doesn’t.
you must have no issue with anything that's actually happened.
What gamer issues? We're not discussing gameplay here.
So why didn't they advertise it more? They put out one tweet and that was it. Why not really cash in on it with a forum announcement, for example?
I see individuals do that all the time as well, the same way I see them buying Christmas presents and Mother's Day gifts at the appropriate times of the year. I don't see Christmas ads in July for the same reason I don't Valentine's Day ads in September - it's not the proper time of the year. Why is the idea of fixed dates for specific things such an issue for you?
Gamer issues aren't about gameplay they're....people get really sensitive so I'll explain in a song.
This about sums it up lol
Yeah, I'm not listening to that. You can put in a little effort and write what you want to say.
Skip to about 3 minutes in and listen for a few seconds. Because of gamer issues I'll leave it at that since this forum and sadly game is filled with gamers who probably wouldn't like me saying that lol
Or don't, it actually doesn't matter since unbeknownst to you we're on the same page. See that's what happens when you argue with hateful people in the internet, if you start firing at random you'll hit the people closest not the ones who deserve ig. And make no mistake this forum post says "why do the devs care about gays?" i don't think you'll be changing any hearts or minds here
I made no assumptions about your stance, I just don't like it when people put in barely any effort to have a conversation and expect others to put in more effort than they're willing to. I would've reacted in the same manner even if you had explicitly agreed with me.
You're several years too late to object to that, the Nurse's husband is quite explicitly mentioned in her lore.
The point is that that ship sailed long ago and nobody had any problems with it until now.
Horror is all about a rejection of conformity. As such, the community attracts a lot of gays.
FUN FACT Freddy was used as a metaphor for homosexuality in NMOES2. Now that may not be the most well regarded movie out there but it existence speaks for itself. Also *ghostface* said the only way to survive a modern horror movie is to be gay. Im not sure what that means because it's not literally true and it might just be a play on the fact that sex = death but im pretty sure gays have sex so maybe it was just to set up a funny death later. I just felt the need to bring it up since *he's* also in dbd
Bubba is genderfluid
Nobody asked for this either, so why does it have to be "necessary" all of a sudden when it didn't need any justification for the past 4 years?
Anything that gets announced in June and it concerns the LGBT community is only for Profit.
That's it. 100%.
Want us to feel like it's a genuine gesture? Don't announce it, make it natural.
Bro, are you reading the same posts I am? There’s people saying it’s WRONG if we don’t ALL push for equality in DBD.
Yes, that oh-so lucrative LGBT market! So much money!! Man let me tell you, if the next Indiana Jones movie features Indy doing a dude, it will be the highest-grossing movie of all time! And I bet Harrison Ford doesn't even care about the LGBT cause, he's just in it for the money!
The mental gymnastics here are very amusing. You guys have to go to such great lengths to disguise the fact that you just don't want LGBT stuff in the game.
I know it's pointless to try to get through to you, but here's an example. Say a company donates a million dollars to a cancer research foundation. Then you find out.. the company doesn't really care about cancer! They still donated the money. They still contributed to a good cause. Are you really going to try to act all outraged about it? Even if BHVR doesn't truly, in their heart of hearts, care about LGBT, they still included them.
That's not even close to the same type of issue being discussed here...
That movie would fail.
FORCED LGBT oriented themes aren't working in the market at the moment.
I don't like being pandered to.
Maybe they like the game and want People to play. If they wanted profit they wouldnt spend this much on iconic killers they wouldn't of made original killers earnable with play time so they dont care they see humans. Not lgbtq or straight
They want to make character relatable to a large group of people if I had to take a wild guess.
SpongeBob is asexual, and has been since his creator said he was. This was confirmed like a decade ago. Not only does it make sense character wise, sea sponges irl reproduce asexualy too.
His creator died and so Nickelodeon changed it so they could make the news again. If they did care and/or respect either the creation, the creator, or the fans they'd have left him asexual.
I ain't the same dude, but IMO I don't want the characters already released to be changed, I'd prefer them all to remain rather ambiguous in regards to their personality itself so that any personality we've projected onto them feels good.
If they add a new dude and make them gay/bi/whatever that's fine, but leave the older characters as they are.
Since they haven’t been confirmed straight, no changing would be happening whatsoever.
even Nurse could be bisexual as far as we know.
Changing in this case means not being ambiguous anymore. As I said, I'd prefer their personalities to remain as blank as possible in order to allow the people playing themselves to project themselves on them.
So you have a problem with David’s archive story as well? Or with every archive story, since they all add new lore to the chars. Or is it just a problem if it’s explicitly LGBT themes added?
I am personally gay and did not even know it was a trend right now. rofl I think I am getting to old to care about trends but either way I feel it is probably a little profit and more about support. I mean I do not blame them for making some money from it but I would lean more towards support because just by supporting a cause brings people in and they are not forcing people to spend money or whatever but they support us and we like to support them. It kind of becomes more of a two way street then a support this "trend I guess" to make a quick buck. I could be waaay wrong though.
I'm gay and I firmly don't believe that sexual orientation should be focused on in a game like this. It is scarecely relevant, and I had a whole lot more respect for their previous decision that orientation wouldn't be addressed for the vast majority of characters so it's up to the player to decide and who to relate to. You're running around hacking people apart and hanging them on meathooks, who they want to sleep with isn't relevant.
Personally, I find it hard to be optomistic about them discussing sexuality in character lore for a number of reasons.
Firstly, they lack subtlety in a lot of cases. The biggest example for me is Zarina. In creating a "race-positive" character, they created a character whose entire personality and backstory is just her race. Race is important but like anything else, completely dominating a character's entire personality with one detail is shallow and to a degree, insulting to people who care about that detail in themselves.
Secondly, the current events surrounding the LGBT community and "gender identity" have left a lot of the community split, flinging insults, and creating toxic, destructive movements across many forms of social media. This is not the time to hedge your bets on an LGBT character. One wrong word and the company can very quickly get labelled as "phobic," exploitative of the movement etc.
Lastly, we so often get represented by a barrage of stereotypes in media. For what is meant to be a time where we're most accepted and 'normal,' we're constantly dragged back to these parodies of the feminine guy who likes make up or drag, and clubbing. It doesn't represent a huge amount of us, and for many these sorts of representations aren't any better than putting in racial stereotypes and saying "you should just be glad to be represented at all." As I've said above, they don't have a great track record of subtlety, and I'm skeptical that they can create characters that are LGBT without it being their personality.
Like I said, I would like their personalities to remain ambiguous. Dwight is already interesting as a character, it's just too bad his in-game animations only show him as a scaredy-cat