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Do red rank killers win every game?

I’m on my way to reaching red rank killer however I’m faced with matches where I don’t get every kill. I watch streamers who are seemingly flawless at killer. It gets me a little discouraged if I can’t get kills every game. So I just want to know, do the higher up’s also have bad games? They don’t possibly dominate 24/7 right?



  • chargernick85chargernick85 Member Posts: 3,171

    Ya don't worry about them i am rank 1 and occasionally drop back to 2 but only play for a few hours a day during the week as I'm at work. I also like to use all killers and this mmr does not work like it's supposed to so I play the same opponents type whether I'm using my top 5 or my bottom 5. Ofc course the survivors don't know who you main they just see rank so they think you suck but even with using my bottom 5 for the last week I'm still a 2 so can't suck 2 bad. Just focus on you and growing as a dbd player. Remember there are 4 survivors that can run ridiculous perks that give them multiple chances in chases and lives and your already expected the hook them 3 times when gens can be done in such little time. Just have to be smart on when and who to chase at the right times.

  • RoobnusRoobnus Member Posts: 375

    Nope, sometimes you'll get destroyed and it happens to the best Killers from time to time.

    If you watch Streamers, also keep in mind that chances are high there are stream snipers on the Survivor team trying to get their 10 minutes of attention. Those players usually don't play sweaty which makes it much easier for the streamer to look good.

    If you're skilled you should be able to maintain a ~80-90% winrate (3-4k) even in Rank 1 but you never know when they're going to hit you with a complete roflstomp that makes you feel like a baby killer.

  • BlueberryBlueberry Member Posts: 10,150
    edited August 2020

    I would say at least 75% of my matches at rank 1 are 3-4k's. Only reason there are 3's is because of hatch which is basically a 4k though.

    Now this may seem high, but there are some things to keep in mind. Not only is matchmaking terrible now, but it has been for ages. As well as having messed up ranking and a broken derank system, meaning LOTS of survivors at high ranks that have absolutely no reason for being there.

    My point is that with all these issues we've had for a very long time it means even at rank 1 we are being put against a lot of other "red ranks" that aren't really red ranks and are more like green or lower if we're being honest.

    This is a good example of why kill stats are near completely worthless in terms of measuring balance.

  • MusicNerd_TCMusicNerd_TC Member Posts: 3,099

    No, anybody who says they never win is lying. Play the game for fun, and not to be a "flawless killer". Nobody is a flawless killer. I say this as a rank 1 killer as well. I lose a decent amount.

  • QueenOfIllusionQueenOfIllusion Member Posts: 7

    Thank you! I just always had the thought in the back of my mind “you aren’t good unless you succeed at every round” so hearing it from folks I strive to be like say even they have trouble makes me more at ease

  • MadLordJackMadLordJack Member Posts: 8,815

    No, not even close. Survivor ranks are only a measure of time played, not skill, and by extension killers can rank up on bad survivors and blackpip off of good ones. For example, I just had a game against a Pig. She was terrible. Couldn't loop, had no slowdown perks, fell for BBQ baiting constantly, never tried to slug, and while she did try to use her dash in loops she never caught on to the fact that I was just running away the moment she crouched.

    She was rank 2. Apparently she depipped that game.

  • D_OrienD_Orien Member Posts: 115

    Always expect to not win 9x out of 10 as Killer.

  • KebekKebek Member Posts: 3,676

    If you get really good you'll have very high kill rate as killer but that's mainly due to DBD not giving you hardcore sweat teams every match that would be equall challenge to your skill level. I personally feel like my kill rate would be around 80% overall but I know that it's caused by the large amount of bad survivors I get, paired with me beiing seasoned killer.

    It's easy to say or watch players with very high kill rates and call DBD killer favored when in reality it's just that people don't vs teams who would match their skill level which makes it look like they never lose.

    It's the sweaty teams with all 4 good survivors that makes these high kill rate killers lose since the odds are more balanced in such match rather when facing solos with at least 2 potatoes that lose the match for survivor side of the trial.

  • vogit10102vogit10102 Member Posts: 225

    You 4k 90% of times, and you only lose (0k) in 1 of 100 matches

  • Masochistic_KillerMasochistic_Killer Member Posts: 413

    I've seen Otz lose as Nurse without a single kill. It definitely can and does happen, probably a lot more than it should.

  • seki23seki23 Member Posts: 833

    Most likely yes. if u go against solos is 95% of the time a win if u are good if they are an insane 4 man is considerably harder if u are not using spirit or nurse but still. those dont appear all the time.

  • seki23seki23 Member Posts: 833
    edited August 2020

    lol #########? then you are awfull as kiler you should be able to win at least 7/8 of 10 matches otherwise you need to get better at the game. you are not going against insane 4 man with thousands of hours every game and if u are on steam then dodge those lobbys or bring an ebony for those very especific situations, the game is killer sided WHEN you play against solos, is extremely rare to lose agaisnt solos even at red ranks the problem are SWF, but not all of them.

  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 6,130

    This 100%. Viewers and streamers themselves often forget that playing the game as a job leads to atypical results.

    To answer OP's question: I do lose. Not very often, maybe once every 3 hours or so, but it does happen.

  • xenotimebongxenotimebong Member Posts: 2,803

    Nope, and you’ll probably enjoy the game more if you relax and accept that sometimes you’ll lose and it’s okay. I definitely started enjoying killer more once I became okay with my losses. :)

    I’ve played against streamers who routinely 4K and escaped, it doesn’t mean they’re not better than me lmao, this game is just too RNG dependent to easily judge the skill of another person based on one match.

  • gibblywibblywoogibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,773

    I'd say I win the vast majority as a killer I've got a lot of time and points invested into. Four red ranks solos is usually an easy win due to the lack of info on their end. A Swf can be tought depending on their playstyle. A lot of them play fast and loose/dangerous and end up screwing themselves over, but optimal Swfs can be VERY tough to beat and it becomes largely map dependant.

    An early hook is really the dealbreaker against a good team. If you don't get one before the first/second gen you won't be able to apply enough pressure.

  • GcarraraGcarrara Member, Mod Posts: 2,156
    edited August 2020

    There is never a 100% chance.

    My motto is: There is always someone more experienced than you somewhere in the world. If that is not the case, it's because you never met it yet 😁.

    This is luckily the case in gaming also. Imagine if you were the best and dominated every Survivor always 100% of the time... What would even be the thrill of not knowing what to expect in the match? How would you be able to improve? It would be getting boring sooner or later...

  • JHondoJHondo Member Posts: 1,174

    With Hag I tend to win most games but I'll play other killers and drop back down to purples often and rank reset is a yoyo for me from 4-5 for about a week until I can work back up to rank 2. I play probably 12-20 hours a week depending on events/archives/how often my friends want to play swf.

    A lot of the streamers 4king every match also only play killer or very rarely play Survivor. It's amusing watching someone like Otz doing really well as killer and then watching him play Survivor and being somewhere between a potato and fairly competent.

  • Dead_by_GadflyDead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,774

    Absolutely not. Ive been r1 for close to 6 months now and get my ass kicked plenty. There are games youve lost before youve even spawned in thanks to rng. There are also games you onky won because of rng.

  • DabihwowDabihwow Member Posts: 3,409

    I understand man it hurts every time you lose as a killer against a red ranks. SO don't feel bad, it will take time for you too learn. also red ranks tend to be people who put a lot of hours into the game. SO They know a lot about the environment, my advice as a killer main try to learn about the killer you play as and use some of their strengths/perks to the best of your ability. ITs okay if you lose just try to think positivly, watch a funny video, or do something that you like, that's what I do when I have a few bad matches in a row

  • RaSavage42RaSavage42 Member Posts: 4,301

    I don't get all 4 survivors about 50% of the time

  • RaSavage42RaSavage42 Member Posts: 4,301

    Winning all depends on the person

    Do they think that 4k's are a win

    Do they think that points are a win

    Do they think that Pip's are a win

    You can Pip and not kill everyone

    Also you can kill everyone and either depip or safety

    You can play a killer that gives a lot of points but not kill all survivors

  • D_OrienD_Orien Member Posts: 115

    I'm always getting SWF. Also I just know you tunnel, etc, given how you implied it's so easy to play as Killer.

  • seki23seki23 Member Posts: 833

    imagin still using terms as tunnel as bad things, you have to kill survivors do you they do care about yor fun? they will tush those gens as fast as they can, the y dont care about you or your fun they never did and they never will when you learn that you will win more than 70% of your games.

  • MozzieMozzie Member Posts: 618

    I've been a red rank killer for a very long time. Those games definitely happen, especially if you're using a killer you haven't played for a long time or a killer you have very little experience with. I've seen the top streamers have 4 escapes. Don't get discouraged. Just remember that you are playing to have fun and practice. Playing as a killer is so stressful sometimes it's easy to forget that.

  • WillWolf76WillWolf76 Member Posts: 19

    These streamers, like myself, have practiced and practiced and practiced. Even then, we don't win every game. If you played for 4 years and learned all the tricks survivors do (and killers do when you play survivor), you would be able to do what we do. The key word here is PRACTICE. Four years I have been playing this game, I still lose games now and then because no one is perfect. You have off days or some survivors just out play you sometimes.

    In fact a few weeks ago, I was playing my nurse. This was the first and ONLY game as a nurse that I lost when my blinks were perfect. I was up against 2 Green Ranks who told me in chat they were still new to the game and 2 red ranks. We were on the large map, Red Forest, the original one. After I started decimating the team in the beginning, slugging the crap out of them, they would abandon gens that were 70% done just to run and hide. I would search the area looking for them, they were working on other gens across the map that were 0% because they wanted to completely avoid me. Hiding in the area to them was too risky so when they knew I was coming, they took off to get away.

    I lost because I couldn't find them. Gens took a while but their use of stealth and not being greedy ultimately lead to their victory. I never met a full team of survivors that were not greedy at all and played as smart as they did. Mind you, these were new players.

    In chat later, they told me after they saw how well I played nurse, they knew to avoid me at all costs and hide. The respect they gave me and the respect of how they played because they recognized my own skill was honestly extremely flattering. It was also awesome to see survivors who were flexible enough to change their own strategies mid game. A lot of red ranks think the game is played only one way and if killers do something that interferes with their strategies, they start crying in chat about it. These guys were the total opposite, they were true gamers. I told them I looked forward to playing them in the red ranks because they played better then any red rank I ever seen (except the two red ranks in the game, they played better then other red ranks). We exchanged a lot of respectful compliments before moving on.

    But as a nurse who rarely loses when her blinks are on point (can't say never now thanks to these 4 survivors), I learned that day that even as a nurse who generally 4ks or 3ks with a hatch escape (still a killer victory), you can still lose a game at red rank if the survivors know how to play. You will learn that most survivors don't know how to play though and can't handle the fact that they get beat because of it.

    Red Rank doesn't mean you are good, it just means you play a lot! Getting rank 1 is easy, just keep playing. Go in with a strategy but don't be unbending, be flexible to change it up if the survivors are beating you with their strategies. A lot of survivors are not as good as they think they are, usually the ones playing DS, BT, Exhaustion Perks, and Adrenaline. Theses players use them because they are clutch perks and if I see them, instant mori as a killer! They use them because they don't have the skills to play survivor properly because they are used to fix mistakes.

    Anyone that wants to argue this point, I have videos of myself running killers without the perks. The only perk I have used to run killers is Windows of Opportunity. The rest of my perks are all stealth perks like Calm Spirit and Lightweight. I ran a Bubba for 5 minutes straight with Self Heal, Calm Spirit, Lightweight, and Windows of Opportunity. I posted it on YouTube, he was a Red Rank 4.

    So rank means nothing, just keep practicing and you will be fine. Learn how to counter a survivor's moves and end chases faster. Also, don't chase the guy who is really good and wants to be chased. Save them for last. If they are not on a generator, they are useless to the other survivors. Only the ones on generators matter!

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