well to be honest, ive never seen a bad rank 1 killer but tons of ######### rank 1 survivors so rank kinda tells you how good killer is but not how good survivor is as it is very easy to rank up as survivor
I would still say rank doesnt matter. To a point. Because at red ranks a lot of people still play like absolute potatoes. It is as if there is missing a whole different ranking system within the red ranks alone. But even beyond that, I dont know about this claim that some rank 14 play as well if not better than some rank 1s, there might be a few but not a lot. But I will say that between rank 10-1 almost doesnt matter, and fear for playing against some rank 10's more than I do some rank 1s. Meaning that the ranks are kind of iffy in there intention for matchmaking.
But with all that said, without turning this into a killer vs a survivor thing, its a bit easier for survivors to get to red ranks than it is for killers. Because if the killers make a bad play and chase a good survivor, the bad survivors can sit on gens the entire game, get a few altruistic actions in towards the end, and possibly get saved by their good team mates. Where as for killer, unless they find potatoes, they have to do all the heavy lifting themselves.
Now how often this happens I cant say, but I can say that if you play enough you will find enough potatoes to kill (otherwise the bad survivors getting into red ranks dont make sense) and if you play enough you will get matched with good survivors that can carry you. But in the end you still will end up getting their with some new skills.
TL;dr rank doesnt matter....a lot of the time. But in general you probably wont climb beyond purple ranks without having some amount of skill.
You realize that your whole post is a shitload of contradictions?
Nuance is a foreign concept I see.
As I said, most of the time rank doesnt matter. At all. Even if you suck at the game a lot, all you need is a bit of luck and you too can be a red rank. Not skill. Just luck.
Yes the better players will be red ranks....if they play the game. If they dont then some yellow ranked people can easily be better than a lot of red ranks. Because as I have been hammering home here, a lot of red ranks are not any better than many purple and many green ranks.
All I said that I guess could be interperet as "contradictions" would be the survivor/killer thing. But I will still stand by that. You have to be slightly lucky as a survivor to get into red ranks, or a good survivor. You have to be very lucky as a killer, or a good killer. Yes both can be true at the same time. The difference here and why I still stand by my previous statement is. You have 3 chances to get a good team mate, and 3 others to fall back on if you are kind of bad. As a killer, sure you have 4 chances to get a potato survivor, but you still have to get kind of lucky to find the right survivor and if you make a mistake then you have no one to fall back on. And even if you find that survivor there is no guarantee that its gonna hurt the team. If you kill 1 survivor but there is only 2-3 gens left. Sure its not a perfect situation for the survivors but its definitely not a great situation for you either and now you dont have a potato survivor to generate map pressure.
1 < 3 is pretty easy math in my opinion.
I hope this makes it clear to you why I doubt there is any contradictions. Two things can be true at the same time.
Youre right an wrong. I met so many red ranks who were rank 1 before I ever made it and I was better than them. I had reached red rank with 400 hours to 500 and I played stealthily and dumb and at like 600 I learned efficient looping and I got good and I guess short story short is ranks matter when you have the skills of that. Usually its red rank and purple where it don't because people play with friends or stealthy and rank up that way without having skill when you get to purple and red rank you need more hours to be good but usually green rank to brown play the way you'd expect if you get what im saying
Rank either matters or it doesn't matter. If it SOMETIMES matter then that still means Rank matters. If you never get drunk but SOMETIMES you get drunk, that still means you get drunk... SOMETIMES. But whatever, I believe that you are too confused to be worthy to discuss this matter because as I said, you constantly contradict yourself.
OP I agree with you.
I do think some folks get to higher ranks due to being carried in friends' (or public) SWFs.
I also think some get higher due to playing a LOT.
But, the majority I think get to the rank they get to from how they play.
Feel free to masturbate yourself to sleep good sir on top of that masterful demonstration of logic. Your logic is silly and flawed.
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2 things can be true at once. Rank matters to a point but it doesnt matter a lot more. Its very general statement where context matters, and if you cant get your head around that then I dont know what to tell you. Good day sir
Thats your experience. As for myself being at Rank 1 and 2 as Survivor. Im getting sick and tired of constantly going up against a Red ranked killer who knows exactly what hes doing and having survivors range from rank 15-20 on my team playing as if they just got the game. In my experience ranks matter. Aint no way a rank 20 plays like a red rank. Again, in my experience. And im getting bored, frustrated and tired of it. Every game.
The reason why people say rank doesent matter is because rank 1 by defintion should be the best of the best players with thousands of hours however you also get 100h people there that are very new to the game which makes even rank1 such mixed bag and the better you become the worse you notice your teammates being. DBD has 20 ranks but you could fit just rank1 players easily into 10 to 20 diffrent tiers of players. Also winning condition and skill in this rng heavy game is hard to track with bots and algorithms which makes many of good players never get below rank10 as they only play once or twice a week. But people who farm points for tons everyday will get to rank1 just by farming not by trying to get better
Playtime correlates with skill way more accurately than rank does which is what people are trying to say to you when they say rank does not matter.
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You realize that looks are completly subjective?
But a good topic actually, because despite what society is trying to tell you; the look of a person DOES matter when you're looking for that partner. It may not matter for everyone as much but it DOES matter, always, in 100% of cases. Just sometimes more or less. But it DOES matter.
Can you make me an example as to why you think Rank does not matter? Like what context are we talking about here? When your little brother with 2 hours of playtime is playing with your account of 2000 hours, then that rank means nothing? Is that where you're coming from?
Well if you insist on not just conceeding that 2 things can be right and want specific examples of why its easier for a survivor to get into red ranks than killer. And one reasons why rank doesnt matter. Then SWF and "safety pip".
Safety pip, makes it so that even if you "lose" you probably wont lose rank anyway. Which gives you 4 possible outcomes, 2 of which are most likely to happen, and 2 which happens occassionally(I know double pipping is rarer than depipping but its not that much more rare). 1 pip and safety pipping, happens all the time. Depipping only happens when you are unlucky or severely outmatched. And double pipping only happens if you get long games with a lot of activity on most fronts. Double pipping usually wont happen with bad players, so lets scratch that.
That leaves you with 3 outcomes and I would wager that unless your team gets absolutely ######### on, you get discovered over and over or tunneling/camping is going on you wont depip in any games. Those are scenarios I would call being unlucky.
But safety pipping and 1 pip happens in the wast majority of games even if you die or even if 3 survivors escape. So if you most of the time either pip, dont go up or down, and only occassionaly go down 1 pip then you can only go up in rank. It makes it a matter of playing the game a lot rather than having to learn to play the game.
SWF makes it so that bad survivors, that play with better survivors get into red ranks by doing nothing more than holding m1, hiding and saving team mates when its safe and their better swf friends tell them to do so. That or a 3 man SWF can carry the last rando, but thats just luck.
I know the first few times I got into red ranks as survivor was with about 50-60 hours on survivor in the game, and thats just by being carried and without a single clue how to loop. All I knew was hiding and holding m1, and dying within 30 seconds of being found. Back then the rank would reset you a lot further back than it does now and I still got down there without learning anything new. Now that it only reset 3-4 ranks at max its even easier.
TL;DR Safety pip, SWF (for survivor) and weak rank reset are plenty of reasons why getting into red ranks is easy and got very little to do with skill and a lot more to do with how much you play the game.