I didn't mean to sound rude or disrespectful, I was just very curious why I was having so many issues with one killer in particular when i've been tunneled by Trappers and Face Camped by LF's and still gotten wins. I even had the unfortunate accident of feeding Myers into tier 3 thinking he was a glitched survivor and still gotten out with my whole team. I guess the fault lies in my inability to pallet drop properly?
You will find some people on this forum are quite divided and biased unfortunately. If you say anything about their preferred side then the pitchforks come out.
Best way to learn the game is to play both sides and pick up what you can from content creators. The game can be tough for new players as extensive training/induction doesn't really exist in this game.
Unless you are at a very bad place (like one of those LT walls in the corner of the Swamp) you will probably reach a pallet before the Clown can get to you. Windows are not very safe against Clown, don't use them unless they are very safe.
So lets say you get hit by him and you sprint away to a safe pallet, he has nothing to do. He literally cannot do anything other than breaking the pallet. If you loop efficiently there won't be a problem.
Perhaps you should read the original post properly then. The poster only joined yesterday - you expect them to know all your terminology? or the strength of every killer in relation to one another.
Even then the title was phrased as a question not a statement.
To be fair a fast pallet vault can be done from standing and has a short duration of the animation before you jump when you're stuck in place which isn't present with a fast window vault.
Yeah, I get that. I've been playing for a week or less and I have done some pretty tough matches, but for some reason he's really hard to go against. Working on advice from some previous responders rn.
Clown, like Leatherface, is very strong in a chase. He isn't without counterplay but you have to learn it with experience. Y'see, to make up for how great he is in chase, he doesn't have much for gens beyond that. This actually leaves him a pretty weak killer overall, but in time I think you might come to appreciate how fun he is to both play and oppose, unlike, say, Spirit.
As a person who plays some clown, a good way to counter him is to not let him force you where he wants you to go, stay at safe loops, if he throws a bottle on the pallet try to keep track of him and throw down the pallet if you think he's going to lunge. Just dont let him corral you with his power, clown can be very strong.
I've had problems with him too early on. In my experience, baiting out his bottles and forcing him to reload helps a lot. Sprint burst is also nice, as his bottles are a lot harder to hit with and a lot less useful if you are farther away.
But to reiterate the others, just stay split. I've seen a lot of games fall apart because two people stack, get hit, then body block each other in the acid fog.
You can drop pallets early on him when he is coming through a choke point as well to bait out and waste bottles.
Most clowns also announce they see you by chucking bottles at you from a distance. Just waste their time running and stopping to bait more bottles out then treat them like any M1 killer.
with addons he can be more annoying and an easier killer for new players maybe while you get better at catching people. if you're clumped is usually when he's bad or you're in a tight area like the lower chambers beneath the temple map. try to keep an eye out for him and get to leaving early, some of them will also chuck a jar in areas where people might be hiding to see if they can hear them cough and have an easy start on them. Try to not let yourself get caught in area you can't avoid the cloud in or escape easily from. Also you can bait a throw and go in the other direction since he has a limit by default just a few iirc, and making more takes him a moment so he can't make more in a chase without automatically losing you. I played him a few times and it helped me play against him more easily getting a feel for things like that. It also takes some time getting used to his throws, if you're playing one you think might be bad at the throws take advantage of that with the fakes. Distance is helpful on him, and stuff like spine chill can help you maintain it as well as keeping an eye around when gens are in a good spot to see at a distance. I treat him like hillbilly and nurse where I don't take chances being greedy on gen time if I see one coming.
^ this, the only way that DH is bad against clown is if the clown is using exhaustion addons, but yeah pre drop pallets if you got gassed never try to loop a clown unless you didn't get hit by it.
I think the concensus is clown is pretty weak. Sure, he can win chases quicker. Sometimes, and can negate hard loops, but longer or chained loops he can suffer at.
And on top of that, his power is chase only, so he has no tracking, and most importantly, no mobility. He has to walk to every gen on his own, with no way to really threaten them from afar.
In some scenarios the clown can seem a little frustrating but hes just a killer you have to have good map awareness with, getting caught in the open with a STBFL clown can be brutal but once you get used to where everything is at you'll be laughing before you know it.
I'm cool with that, but if you walk into his cloud you need to be downed and unable to move for the rest of the game and do nothing as he does unspeakable things to you while you're helpless to do anything but watch.
he has better chase potential., still no map pressure and still same problem as before u can still use pallets early if your teamamtes are doing gens he has no chance bfore all pallets are wasted all gens should be done.
Why? Many beginners struggle against Clown or Wraith. They are hard to deal with when you dont know how they work and how to play against. Check out older threads about clown, even months after release of him, many people were convinced he is overpowered and should get nerfed.
I’ve been playing for two years and still have problems with clown, he’s the only killer who I go “Dang it” against when I know it’s him, don’t feel too bad about it, some killers are just hard counters to you as a player
Clown is the most simple and weakest Killer in the game. He's strong against beginners and uncoordinated solos who don't run speed perks. Wraith is right above him. If they struggle against the weakest, then they will dread the strongest.
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So you just started the game and you don't know how to play,which is normal, but then you come here to complain about a killer ? Alright man.
Asking for help isn't complaining - btw there is a question mark in the title.
I didn't mean to sound rude or disrespectful, I was just very curious why I was having so many issues with one killer in particular when i've been tunneled by Trappers and Face Camped by LF's and still gotten wins. I even had the unfortunate accident of feeding Myers into tier 3 thinking he was a glitched survivor and still gotten out with my whole team. I guess the fault lies in my inability to pallet drop properly?
You will find some people on this forum are quite divided and biased unfortunately. If you say anything about their preferred side then the pitchforks come out.
Best way to learn the game is to play both sides and pick up what you can from content creators. The game can be tough for new players as extensive training/induction doesn't really exist in this game.
Unless you are at a very bad place (like one of those LT walls in the corner of the Swamp) you will probably reach a pallet before the Clown can get to you. Windows are not very safe against Clown, don't use them unless they are very safe.
So lets say you get hit by him and you sprint away to a safe pallet, he has nothing to do. He literally cannot do anything other than breaking the pallet. If you loop efficiently there won't be a problem.
The title is "Clown is a bit op?", is this really asking for advice or saying a killer is overpowered ?
Mm, i've noticed. I'm gonna try and do my best and hopefully i'll get better. Thanks for the encouragment btw.☺️
Clowns strength is in his chase ability. Unfortunately you have to rely more on your teammates against him
Perhaps you should read the original post properly then. The poster only joined yesterday - you expect them to know all your terminology? or the strength of every killer in relation to one another.
Even then the title was phrased as a question not a statement.
I wish you good luck and a good time in DbD. Its really hard at the beginning but once you learn it, it gets much easier.
They aren't. They're asking for advice.
Dude clown is one of the worst killers in the game u need to learn how to counter him
To be fair a fast pallet vault can be done from standing and has a short duration of the animation before you jump when you're stuck in place which isn't present with a fast window vault.
Yeah, I get that. I've been playing for a week or less and I have done some pretty tough matches, but for some reason he's really hard to go against. Working on advice from some previous responders rn.
Clown, like Leatherface, is very strong in a chase. He isn't without counterplay but you have to learn it with experience. Y'see, to make up for how great he is in chase, he doesn't have much for gens beyond that. This actually leaves him a pretty weak killer overall, but in time I think you might come to appreciate how fun he is to both play and oppose, unlike, say, Spirit.
As a person who plays some clown, a good way to counter him is to not let him force you where he wants you to go, stay at safe loops, if he throws a bottle on the pallet try to keep track of him and throw down the pallet if you think he's going to lunge. Just dont let him corral you with his power, clown can be very strong.
I've had problems with him too early on. In my experience, baiting out his bottles and forcing him to reload helps a lot. Sprint burst is also nice, as his bottles are a lot harder to hit with and a lot less useful if you are farther away.
But to reiterate the others, just stay split. I've seen a lot of games fall apart because two people stack, get hit, then body block each other in the acid fog.
You can drop pallets early on him when he is coming through a choke point as well to bait out and waste bottles.
Most clowns also announce they see you by chucking bottles at you from a distance. Just waste their time running and stopping to bait more bottles out then treat them like any M1 killer.
with addons he can be more annoying and an easier killer for new players maybe while you get better at catching people. if you're clumped is usually when he's bad or you're in a tight area like the lower chambers beneath the temple map. try to keep an eye out for him and get to leaving early, some of them will also chuck a jar in areas where people might be hiding to see if they can hear them cough and have an easy start on them. Try to not let yourself get caught in area you can't avoid the cloud in or escape easily from. Also you can bait a throw and go in the other direction since he has a limit by default just a few iirc, and making more takes him a moment so he can't make more in a chase without automatically losing you. I played him a few times and it helped me play against him more easily getting a feel for things like that. It also takes some time getting used to his throws, if you're playing one you think might be bad at the throws take advantage of that with the fakes. Distance is helpful on him, and stuff like spine chill can help you maintain it as well as keeping an eye around when gens are in a good spot to see at a distance. I treat him like hillbilly and nurse where I don't take chances being greedy on gen time if I see one coming.
I understand keep playing the more u play against him the more u learn how to counter him
^ this, the only way that DH is bad against clown is if the clown is using exhaustion addons, but yeah pre drop pallets if you got gassed never try to loop a clown unless you didn't get hit by it.
I think the concensus is clown is pretty weak. Sure, he can win chases quicker. Sometimes, and can negate hard loops, but longer or chained loops he can suffer at.
And on top of that, his power is chase only, so he has no tracking, and most importantly, no mobility. He has to walk to every gen on his own, with no way to really threaten them from afar.
In some scenarios the clown can seem a little frustrating but hes just a killer you have to have good map awareness with, getting caught in the open with a STBFL clown can be brutal but once you get used to where everything is at you'll be laughing before you know it.
I'm cool with that, but if you walk into his cloud you need to be downed and unable to move for the rest of the game and do nothing as he does unspeakable things to you while you're helpless to do anything but watch.
You're in for a very rough time if Clown is who you struggle against. Gen rush is his only weakness.
he has better chase potential., still no map pressure and still same problem as before u can still use pallets early if your teamamtes are doing gens he has no chance bfore all pallets are wasted all gens should be done.
Why? Many beginners struggle against Clown or Wraith. They are hard to deal with when you dont know how they work and how to play against. Check out older threads about clown, even months after release of him, many people were convinced he is overpowered and should get nerfed.
Lol. I've played against doc quite a bit. Thank God i had Jake with calm spirit. As for freddy, still hasnt happened yet, but it probably will soon.
I’ve been playing for two years and still have problems with clown, he’s the only killer who I go “Dang it” against when I know it’s him, don’t feel too bad about it, some killers are just hard counters to you as a player
Clown is the most simple and weakest Killer in the game. He's strong against beginners and uncoordinated solos who don't run speed perks. Wraith is right above him. If they struggle against the weakest, then they will dread the strongest.