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I installed the game 4 days ago, ######### MATCHMAKING???!!!!!!



  • BingbongbongBingbongbong Member Posts: 202

    What Matchmaking? Can't question something you can't see ... 😑

  • alma41alma41 Member Posts: 36
    edited August 2020

    *Edited apologies

  • evil_one_74evil_one_74 Member Posts: 312

    I did a match last night with a rank 16 killer, and teammates 15 through 18. I'm rank 1. I just shook my head.

  • BingbongbongBingbongbong Member Posts: 202

    I wouldn't trust Steam charts, It doesn't really show if a game retains players. The game constantly goes on sale or free for a weekend so those stats can get skewed heavily.

  • BigTimeGamerBigTimeGamer Member Posts: 1,752

    I have 1500 hours on main account, just played as Hag for lolz because I saw their steam profiles each had between 1-3hrs played. They would get hit, run for 1 second and hide behind a tree thinking I would lose them.

    Devs should be ashamed of what they have done, this is unacceptable and no amount of "calculating MMR" excuses it

  • evil_one_74evil_one_74 Member Posts: 312

    Sad thing is, the killers can usually tell when they're going against low rank survivors, and all they see is an easy match that they can end quickly leaving survivors with very few points and a miserable match.

    Same with some survivors. I'm rank 1 with a lot experience in the game, and I can tell when I'm up against a rookie killer. Sometimes I get my points and leave. Sometimes I'll give the killer some points, and possibly a kill. Depends on how the match went. Majority of survivors just leave and the killer is left with very little bp and a miserable match.

  • the_duck27the_duck27 Member Posts: 1

    I have played numerous matches since the new matchmaking changes and I'm a rank 16 survivor and rank 17 killer. No matter what side I play, survivor or killer, I'm in a lobby with rank 5s or lower. The patch notes said that it depends on your skill with whichever killer you play, I tested that out and played as demogorgon, who I've never played as before. I was still matched against people way above my skill level. Please change back to the old system for now until a better one can be implemented.

  • BlazePyron2BlazePyron2 Member Posts: 145

    I came back to the game after rage-uninstalling a couple weeks ago now that matchmaking "changed"

    I decided to play trapper cause I figure the default killer mmr is probably pretty high, and trapper is fairly weak (especially considering he's only level 28 for me) so I'll have to lose a few games with him anyway to get the mmr down to a level I can play him and have fun.

    I instantly could tell that it matched me with reds, it's so easy to tell from chasing someone what rank they are. rank may not equal skill (it does) but it equals map awareness and these dudes were looping me endlessly.

    Ended game with no kills and one hook. as I suspected, three red ranks and their rank 16 friend (I'm also rank 16 lol).

    The default mmr should be much, much lower. Make people rank up their mmr, don't make people who are already bad at the game feel like ######### for 10+ matches. I can't imagine what someone's first ten games as killer would be if my fresh killer game was with 3 reds who literally ran circles around me.

  • xenofon13xenofon13 Member Posts: 1,241

    Tbh i'm kinda tired all these days getting low rank killers and blasting new survivors as killer.

    Old matchmaking was better than this bs.

    Still waiting response from the devs.

  • ArtCrusadeArtCrusade Member Posts: 30

    I made this thread back in May. It was so ######### obvious this would be a massive fail. I dont enjoy playing killer at the moment because I keep getting rank 20s and it feels horrible to kill the poor babies. On the other hand, I hate playing survivor as well because I keep getting baby killers also. Honestly, if I didn't know how good this game CAN be, I wouldn't even be writing this. I'm a long-time fan and supporter of the game after all. Just REVERSE the changes and go back to the drawing board, because at this rate you won't have a playerbase to begin with.

  • Sinister0208Sinister0208 Member Posts: 253

    This here to stay.

    Mods have said that they are looking into addressing the low rank vs rank issue for new players.

  • sulaimansulaiman Member Posts: 2,664

    Old matchmaking was basicly the same as this. Low rank vs high ranks? Yes, happend before as well.

    The problem with both system is that devs prioritize lobby times over match balance. But they do with both systems, so they work out the same in this regard.

  • sulaimansulaiman Member Posts: 2,664

    And what exactly is the difference to old matchmaking? as a rank 14 killer, i got red rank swf all the time. Doesn´t seem like better matchmaking to me.

  • cheetocultleadercheetocultleader Member Posts: 1,194

    I'm sorry but I should not be getting matched with someone who has one hour play time. I felt so bad I stayed and played with him, because he told me it was his third match, which we lost, of course.

  • ArtCrusadeArtCrusade Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2020

    Old matchmaking at least TRIED to put you into a match with opponents of similiar rank. Anything is better than what we have right ######### now.

    If they had added like a shadow-MMR that'd prevent people who derank on purpose from being matched with weaker killers and vice-versa, that'd have been fine. They made a broken system even worse.

  • ReadyReady Member Posts: 12

    your right and a lot of new players already quit playing due to new match making system and others that have been playing have put the game down as well wonder how much money they are willing to lose before they put match making back till they find an alternative match making system because current setup blows id rather have a 30 minute que time between games then to be paired up with players way out of my leauge above or below my current skill lvl

  • Powerz924Powerz924 Member Posts: 11

    day 4, still the same. first time as Demogorgon. matching me with all reds.

  • IsJustMeIsJustMe Member Posts: 450

    Maybe today is the day that we :

    A) Get Info

    B) Reactivate the old Matchmaking

    or C) we get the Fixed MMR

    Anyway what ... just something 🤨

  • nightmare8923nightmare8923 Member Posts: 5

    So these are the Survivor Ranks after 10 matches. I mainly play survivor. I finally bought the Clown and wanted to play him. I'm just trying to play a few rounds, maybe have a beer and relax. I'm not trying to bust into song and be like "I want to be the very best, like no one ever was. To catch them is my real test, to hook them is my cause!"

    There needs to be some sort of ranked match system for those who want to hone their skills and push themselves to be the best but there also needs to be some sort of an unranked system for those who wanna just chill, not put too much thought into playing and just want to have a fun time before they head to bed for the night. Then again, Ranked players might abuse the Unranked players by selecting Unranked... I think the more times I d/c'd it maybe started to balance it out, idk I only did 10 screen-shotted matches before writing my frustrations. I'll do 10 or 20 more later and submit my findings for you all to view.

    I understand that you cannot please everyone and that you are trying to decrease the wait time but please, there must be a more logical way. I'm totally not into the whole "Purge" match making system right now. Please bring back balance to the force!

  • wtfbbqboywtfbbqboy Member Posts: 5
    edited August 2020

    That and high rank survivors and killers who aren't toxic ######### are going to get sick of playing against babies or if the MMR actually works sweaty boys. They stop playing...and your left with the toxic #########🤔.

    Also the longer this goes on more non-red rank killers are going to stop playing....resulting in more ######### games for survivors who then quit leaving an even smaller player base for the matchmaking system to work with...and so on and so on

    My first killer game in a year btw....🤡

  • JakasdJakasd Member Posts: 12

    It is something curious but I have not had toxic killers, if I have played with ranks 1 that beat us in 2 seconds, but if they are toxic, they are not

    That's why I always refer to survivors, I've seen them hundreds of times

  • br3edagebr3edage Member Posts: 4

    It's obvious they don't give a dam. They dam well know how messed up the ranks are. "3 million matches analyzed" eh ? care to share that data BHVR ? Where in those 3 million matches did it show people with 5000 hours say that it was good to play against day 1 lvl 20 killer players ?

    They Didnt fix matchmaking. they got rid of it. Theres such a huge gap between the number of red rank survivors and red rank killers (ATLEAST 10x the amount of survivors compared to killers) . They got tired of the babies complaining about 45 min queue times so they just match them with the first available killer.

    On my main account I purposely hit 0 players and lost 200 games in a row. Was still getting matched against Full SWF red rank teams.

    If you want them to start listening to us, you need to stop buying expansions and skins. Then their Community managers will be forced to do their job and help get this stuff fixed.

    Community: Matchmaking sucks.

    BHVR: Lets waste bug fixing time on a killer that was already nerfed to the ground. Lets keep pretending like matchmaking will eventually even out so they think that theres actually a matchmaking system in place still.

  • cwtferncwtfern Member Posts: 136

    The MMR is garbage. Already encountered a few incensed players vowing to uninstall in the post-game chat when they see the ranks.

    It's supposedly been working "behind the scenes" for a few months now. Either that was a total lie, or it wasn't working as intended, because I have been playing at red ranks that entire time and I am still paired with rank 20's every other game.

    No matter how much information the MMR gathers on active players, it still doesn't seem to account for the new players whose MMR has not yet been determined and doesn't make any effort to place them. If it can't find perfect fits for the killer's MMR, it just grabs the next random low rank in queue to fill out the lobby.

    There needs to be some kind of failsafe in place, perhaps determined by hours played, that prevents a survivor who is playing their first game of DBD ever from going against a rank 1 Nurse with 3k hours.

  • Powerz924Powerz924 Member Posts: 11

    great news guys, https://twitter.com/DeadByBHVR/status/1293543899286458370 new MMR has been turned off :)

  • raquelambersantiagoraquelambersantiago Member Posts: 369

    The way im seeing this consistantly is they just want you to play they way they want you to play rather than leaving it as a game.

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