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Console Survivors, please at least try the crossplay...

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  • Jed_OlsenJed_Olsen Member Posts: 256

    Gonna try this out, does anybody know have they enabled end game chat for console? Please say yes

  • JPLongstreetJPLongstreet Member Posts: 2,754

    So basically you're saying if you don't have a PC don't even play this game?

  • SloppyKnockoutSloppyKnockout Member Posts: 1,505
    edited August 2020

    Kindly point out where I said that, or kindly keep your mouth shut. Thanks. :)

    It's not an elistist comment. Up until a couple years ago I did most of my gaming on a PS4. Truth isn't elitist. It's truth that your average PC is more capable. It's truth that consoles are made of inherently weaker hardware with the purpose of lower energency consumption and high efficiency. It's truth that weaker hardware performs weaker. Nobody is saying DBD is well optimized - but to sit there and expect top quality performance out of your console based on tech from 2013 (yes, even the One X is using an architecture from 2013)...my dude get real. There's a reason that RDR2, one of the best optimized and most beautiful games of the last couple years, doesn't even have graphical settings on PC low enough to match what it looked like on consoles.

  • AneurysmAneurysm Member Posts: 4,519

    Well I went against my first PC huntress and she ragequit, lol

  • SloppyKnockoutSloppyKnockout Member Posts: 1,505

    Keep in mind - the MMR was just disabled (meaning its back to rank based matchmaking), and while it was enabled, it allowed a lot of potato baby killers to get to red ranks because the game was feeding them baby survivors. So, now we have the issue of baby killers now being at red ranks. Thanks BHVR! lol

  • drakonukarisdrakonukaris Member Posts: 118

    They will stand a chance but they will be at a disadvantage right now due to terrible FPS and occasional stuttering. That is why so many console players are asking for PS4 or Xbox one only matchmaking.

  • SloppyKnockoutSloppyKnockout Member Posts: 1,505

    Again, not saying it's a well optimized game, but there are also other factors.

    The game has an ambiance and atmosphere that needs to be maintained because it's a core part of the gameplay and balance. Map fog, debris scattering, shadows, draw distance etc. To lower any of those to help with performance (with the possible exception of draw distance, like they did with Switch) would probably create balance issues.

  • Jed_OlsenJed_Olsen Member Posts: 256

    Just played my first game on cross play, everyone was PS4 besides a baby Dwight. Not sure if he was memeing or if he was just an absolute potate. They really need to enable the chat box, whats the point in adding these players to a friends list if there is no way to communicate? Or am I missing something?

  • CrowFoxyCrowFoxy Member Posts: 1,309

    I would take into consideration queue times. A majority of console players probably don't know how/don't even want to turn off cross play and that is going to be painful for your queues.

  • SloppyKnockoutSloppyKnockout Member Posts: 1,505

    I think they assume that the friends system will be used for people who already know eachother, and talk on Discord.

  • ExcelSwordExcelSword Member Posts: 217

    Yes, but that is a performance issue not a balance issue. If devs were to actually fix framerates like they rightfully should have done already, then I would hope console players would not feel disadvantaged grouping against PC players, and then the devs might decide to open up other PC exlusive features like graphical options and Keyboard support, like other games have done.

    However if the devs were to cave in and separate PC from matchmaking before optimization, then nobody would even try to play with them,it would alienate the PC playerbase and remove most of the benefits for matchmaking and game health. That's why I'm fine if people don't want to opt in now, but letting people separate from PC players is not the way to do things. This game CAN run at 60fps on consoles, so the devs should be making it a priority.

  • silverwolf4455silverwolf4455 Member Posts: 495

    well I'm a lowly Xbox player but I'm going to keep cross-platform enabled. Can't improve unless you play against better players :)

  • DetailedDetrimentDetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    PS4 player here

    Out of six games I had one OK match.

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    1. PS4 Bubba (good match)

    2. Wallhacking Spirit

    3. Insidious Bubba with an Ebony Mori who was teleporting.

    4. Laggy Billy

    5. Laggy Bubba

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    Safe to say Crossplay is #########. Now whether that's from the system itself being ass or players having garbage internet connection, I don't know.

  • SloppyKnockoutSloppyKnockout Member Posts: 1,505

    What is your proof that they were wallhacking? I've got over 3500 hours on PC. I've seen one hacker. It'd be pretty wild if you saw one on day one of crossplay.

    Insidious Bubba isn't exclusive to PC, and neither are laggy killers. But yes, let's pretend Insidious Bubba only exists on PC, and the Spirit was wallhacking rather than just using Stridor and a good pair of headphones. Solid rationale.

  • ClintonClinton Member Posts: 303

    It's awful. Every single game is a lag fest.. I turned it off after 5 games and have noticed no queue differences

  • MerleMerle Member Posts: 6

    I stopped playing on PC around the time when the endgame update was released because it was a too big and extreme toxic community. And even if you blocked the player u got into lobbys with the same players again and again. Then the dedicated server came and hitboxes got broken. So I stopped but was still a fan of the game itself!

    At the beginning of 2020 I bought dbd for the switch, started again and enjoyed the game until today. Medium large Community, I can block killers and survivor I never wanna see again, no hacks and searching for lobby was always fast. I played 5 games in Crossplay now and the same issues that I had on PC are there again but I guess much worse. Now I saw hacking survivors and killers and the amount of players is so high that blocking a player doesn´t matter anymore because there are still enough other players which are doing the same.

  • DetailedDetrimentDetailedDetriment Member Posts: 2,632

    I have video proof of the Bubba.


    The Spirit had NOED, Franklin's, Ruin, and Stridor, yet she knew exactly where everyone was at all times. I'm not guaranteeing cheating, but it was suspicious. She also had the crossplay symbol.

  • UseTheValveUseTheValve Member Posts: 338

    I swear you guys must have the worse luck in history because in 600 hours I think I saw 1-2 hacker and that was mostly when I just started playing, pretty sure you are just assuming they are hacking.

  • SloppyKnockoutSloppyKnockout Member Posts: 1,505

    Video proof of the Bubba doing what? Lagging? or Insidious camping? And what do either of those things have to do with crossplay?

    Also - the Spirit had stridor. Of course she knew where you were. Stridor on Spirit is broken - but again, that's not a crossplay issue. That's a game issue. I could jump on my PS4 right now and mop the floor with a lobby of survivors using a Stridor Spirit. It's that powerful.

  • ExcelSwordExcelSword Member Posts: 217

    How do you know those were PC players specifically? The crossplay icon doesn't specify it at all. You could have been paired against a switch Leatherface down in his actual basement with his modem in his kitchen. You also can still leave the lobby if the ping looks bad to you, the servers were a little wack for a while before today as well.

  • IIITweedleIIIIIITweedleIII Member Posts: 829

    Who here willing to go up against their favorite DBD Streamers on THEIR PC while you're on Console? 🤔

  • VicThorVicThor Member Posts: 341

    For me as a killer frame rate sucks. Sometimes people disappear in front of me, and i got aiming issues as well

  • SloppyKnockoutSloppyKnockout Member Posts: 1,505
    1. This is subjective - and pending you can at least stay at 30fps, with a controller you shouldn't be at much, if any disadvantage.
    2. Cheaters exist everywhere - but if you want to be real, after 3500 hours on PC I've only seen one hacker.
    3. You are at zero disadvantage as a survivor while using a controller. I play survivor exclusively with a controller on PC. It's even easier to 360 on a controller. Mouse and Keyboard killers will seem more powerful than your typical console killer at first, but you CAN adapt. Controller for survivor is not a hindrance.

    All I read are excuses. Enjoy your 3 hour queue times.

  • LethalPugyLethalPugy Member Posts: 493

    Played like 10 games with it, and oh god it’s so laggy. If they fix that, and add the end game and pre game chats.

    Id definitely do it more often. At the moment, it’s a no.

  • MerleMerle Member Posts: 6

    So this isn´t hacking?

    And perma sprintboost for survivors are normal, so fast that they can overtake you across the map?

    I have some hours on switch..... NEVER had this on switch.....

    I have 5x more hours on PC than on Switch (and more than you) and when I quit PC dbd the hacking was nearly normal.... And I saw around the last 50h on PC between 10-20 hackers. I know it was getting better since then. Btw the killers I has in those 5 matches were all Rank 20-18. I think, that the hackers maybe made a new account only because of crossplay now. When I will play the next matches and see something like this happening, I will search their names on steam to proof that this are new accounts.

  • ExcelSwordExcelSword Member Posts: 217

    Hackers exist on other platforms as well, I have faced one on PS4. But they are overall rare these days, I have only faced 2 since switching to PC a year ago, including the one on PS4.

    Your skill as a survivor is not affected by the Nurse with a mouse. PC survivors do not have an innate advantage that you as a console survivor lack. You ARE on the same footing as those survivors.

    I admit that performance is terrible right now for consoles, and I won't blame you for opting out until this is fixed. But if it IS fixed and you have a stable framerate, please try opting back in. You as a survivor have the same potential as PC survivors to outplay killers.

  • ExcelSwordExcelSword Member Posts: 217


    This is me playing on PS4 a year ago. Hackers are NOT exclusive to PC.

    Since making the swap I have only encountered ONE other hacker, overall they are extremely rare nowadays.

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