Except there is no getting better against someone who has objectively better controls than you do.
I have been a day one DLC buyer since 2018 and am committing to quitting this game if we don't get an option to lock out PC but keep the other consoles.
Except for the fact that as stated over the option screen, if I turn off crossplay I can only play with other PS4 members that ALSO have C-P turned off.
My options either boil down to wait 6 hours for a lobby (already bad enough), or get bullied by unbeatable PC players.
Thanks Devs, nobody asked for mandatory crossplay.
It's what we've been conditioned to. You've got to understand something, the PC swf teams are brutal, on the edge of unbeatable. I'd you use anything other than a top killer with the strongest perks, you're going to have a bad day.
Me personally, I play every killer. Been going easy on console and having a much better time.
That doesn't sound right. Theoretically you should get matched with other players who have crossplay on or off just fine, it'd just have to be a case where they weren't currently being matched with someone off-platform. At least that's how I'd assume it would work. Dunno if they specified that in their FAQ, but excluding other people on the same platform simply because they have their box unticked would make for pointlessly longer queue times when those people can easily still be roped into an all-PS4 or whichever platform game.
The devs made unviable killers that haven't been updated or improved upon to where they stand a chance against the meta. Nurse, spirit, huntress, are good killers that are able to somewhat counter this. Tell me how many good clowns you've lost against vs good nurses? The reason everyone picks nurse, spirit, and huntress (even though i personally never encounter nurse) is because they're stronger and more viable than say clown or Myers.
It’s not about soft. Please realize that is console killers have serious frame issues. We know it, console survivors know it, and it is abused. I’m personally glad pc killers are bringing the smoke to the endless attempts to 360 you guys and it doesn’t work because you have the frames to track them
Constantly? Yesterday, at rank 2, I went against Clowns, Onis, Demos, Bubbas and Trappers o.O
There was only one Nurse throughout the whole night.
And PC killers are no more sweaty than console killers. You just need to get used to the fact that PC killers will inherently have more control over their movement than console users, and therefore the same jukes that work on console killers will not work on PC killers. Adapt.
That's why a loot of people on console is just disabling that option. I guess a lot less console players now and my queue times last for few minutes, before queue times lasted a few seconds.
A lot of people is disabling cross play on console now since they realized the huge gap (hardware differences and optimizations obv, also gamepad vs mouse and keyboard).
I was actually going against far more spirits on PC after crossplay was introduced because you console players are ######### shite and rely on ######### like that, I have since disabled it and I don't get many anymore, nor do I get completely clueless teammates.
as if killers are not toxic. you immediately called him a baby survivor just for saying he's tired of playing against the same killers. that's literally also toxic.
Its hard to beleive your post when you say there are a bunch of sweaty nurses on PC. Nurses are very rare, and they rarely win. I have not played against a highly skilled nurse since the rework. I have only died to nurses post-rework by NOED. Nurse is not A-Tier. Nurse does not have the capability to be A-Tier. Nurse is nowhere near the strongest killer. People supposing this is a possibility need to stop. Her base power, dedicated servers, terrible add ons, map designs relegate her to the worst killer in the game. Statistically she performs the worse. Anecdotally she performs the worst. Nurse is hot garbage. Anyone that was God Tier with her before is smart enough not to play seriously with her anymore. There is no god-tier Nurse post nerf. There is no unicorn.
You people really haven't seen yourself. It's always killers crying for changes, 90% of it on this forum. Is it cuz killer is underpowered? Nope, stats clearly show that isn't the case. It's just survivors play chill cuz they tend to like going against friends etc whereas killers sweat this game hard and half the time it just isn't fun. There is barely any variety and that's a fact, you can't blame a survivor bringing at point up. I use to play killer and I can agree that killers like spirit are incredibly fun to play, but man she got too easy because she is so OP and other killers just aren't on her level. Huntress is fun to play and go against IMO but man, it's not even because spirit is good, she just isn't fun to play against and nor are so many killers. It's poor game design, not poor balance where survivors are OP...
What I don't get as a fairly new player ppl in general are toxic which brings a massive dull to what is a great game, but also as watching streamers on twitch the resolution seams to be brighter which I'm imagining is down to tweeking graphics cards which in turn gives a better advantage over console players as we can't make it brighter to keep an eye on the world around our generators, so never mind the faster reaction/accuracy time of keyboard and mouse this in turn seams more unbalanced than any survivor/killer perk in one?
The problem is PC nurses have an advantage because they can use mouse and keyboard and we can't so playing nurse, huntress, hillbilly is almost impossible
Huntress and Nurse are almost unplayable without a mouse. OTOH, Billy is the only killer I prefer with pad. I find his saw much easier to control with a joystick and can curve effortlessly. Today I faced 4 console players (green ranks), so I tried Billy with pad and no sound at all as a challenge. Still got a 4k :)
I don't think the PC killers are intentionally playing sweaty, in fact, alot of them are trying meme builds or their non-mains in crossplay lobbies. The console survivors just aren't used to the pressure these killers can bring compared to the typical console killer.
I'm a PC player and tbh the most common killer I face is probably Huntress. I hardly play against Nurses or Spirits, and, in fact, I play against Nurses so rarely I enjoy going against them because it's a nice change.
But killers can't just be called sweaty when there are soooo many sweaty survivors out there too with their typical builds (I'm a survivor main who doesn't run DH, DS, Adrenaline or anything like that). Just depends on the console and the individual players I guess.
Welcome to pc. I tend to play a little bit of every killer. Yea some more than others but I myself like variety and know it’s fun to go against something different for once aswell
Hover over the option in your settings. You can't be matched with those on the same platform that are still opted in. If it was as you said, where you can match with any on your platform, I wouldn't be so salty about this change. But this outright feels like the devs forcing a very controversial update on all players.
It's gotta be said, I have a strong distaste for the direction the game is taking. Buffs for Franklin's that nobody asked for, legendary skins nobody asked for, and now this. Are the devs reading some secret forum the rest of can't read?
They screwed up including pc on cross-play. Anybody with a little common sense knows that pc has an advantage with frame rates, and such. Console players will be up against pc players that have put thousands of dollars into their systems to modify them into bad ass gaming systems and will easily destroy console players. I did a few cross-play matches last night to test the waters, and turned cross-play off. If it were platform's only, I'd probably keep it on, but pc. Nah.... On a side note, there should be a symbol showing what systems your teammates are on, and what the killer is on.
You can quite literally turn off cross-play. It's not hard. Just go in your settings.
To answer your question though, from a PC user? It's always been like this. Numerous killers all have skill-sets, but some are more reliable than others. With survivors running the same perks over and over- You should use the killer that's most effective against those builds. So yeah. We're not sweating. We're just trying to avoid the t-bag at the exit-gate. At least you're not getting face-camped by Bubba. Could be worse.
So here's the thing......yes. Pc killers can be very sweaty. But why do you think that is? Oh right....because pc survivors can also be very sweaty. What happens is - pc survivors will absolutely destroy someone who is playing, for example - Pig or Wraith...and will trash talk them in end game chat and make them feel bad. Because of that, it causes the person playing killer to switch to a stronger killer that has a better chance at winning against a good team. It all comes full circle, my friend. There's a reason for everything. Get ######### on by a toxic team? Welp, time to bust out Spirit with an Ebony Mori. Unfortunately though, a lot of the time killers will take out their frustration on innocent solo queue teams that just want to play the game normally. And in turn - makes those survivors become sweaty. It's a pretty toxic cycle. But in my opinion, if you just go into the game (whatever side you play) with the mindset of "I don't give a f***" - you will have a more enjoyable time playing. I stopped caring about sweaty players a long time ago and my DBD experience has improved. You can't change the way people play. Some games are fun, some aren't. But at the end of the day, it IS just a game. And you shouldn't ever expect strangers in an online game to play the way you want them to. That's just the way it is. But good luck in future games, and good luck against the sweat lords. My advice - try not to take it too seriously and have a laugh at the ppl that do😂❤
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Except there is no getting better against someone who has objectively better controls than you do.
I have been a day one DLC buyer since 2018 and am committing to quitting this game if we don't get an option to lock out PC but keep the other consoles.
that is because pc survivors are way better than consoel survivors so they actually need to play like that to win
Except for the fact that as stated over the option screen, if I turn off crossplay I can only play with other PS4 members that ALSO have C-P turned off.
My options either boil down to wait 6 hours for a lobby (already bad enough), or get bullied by unbeatable PC players.
Thanks Devs, nobody asked for mandatory crossplay.
It's what we've been conditioned to. You've got to understand something, the PC swf teams are brutal, on the edge of unbeatable. I'd you use anything other than a top killer with the strongest perks, you're going to have a bad day.
Me personally, I play every killer. Been going easy on console and having a much better time.
That doesn't sound right. Theoretically you should get matched with other players who have crossplay on or off just fine, it'd just have to be a case where they weren't currently being matched with someone off-platform. At least that's how I'd assume it would work. Dunno if they specified that in their FAQ, but excluding other people on the same platform simply because they have their box unticked would make for pointlessly longer queue times when those people can easily still be roped into an all-PS4 or whichever platform game.
The devs made unviable killers that haven't been updated or improved upon to where they stand a chance against the meta. Nurse, spirit, huntress, are good killers that are able to somewhat counter this. Tell me how many good clowns you've lost against vs good nurses? The reason everyone picks nurse, spirit, and huntress (even though i personally never encounter nurse) is because they're stronger and more viable than say clown or Myers.
It’s not about soft. Please realize that is console killers have serious frame issues. We know it, console survivors know it, and it is abused. I’m personally glad pc killers are bringing the smoke to the endless attempts to 360 you guys and it doesn’t work because you have the frames to track them
PC is just a lot more sweaty than console in my experience. (that goes for other games too)
Constantly? Yesterday, at rank 2, I went against Clowns, Onis, Demos, Bubbas and Trappers o.O
There was only one Nurse throughout the whole night.
And PC killers are no more sweaty than console killers. You just need to get used to the fact that PC killers will inherently have more control over their movement than console users, and therefore the same jukes that work on console killers will not work on PC killers. Adapt.
Exactly! The gap is like so huge.
That's why a loot of people on console is just disabling that option. I guess a lot less console players now and my queue times last for few minutes, before queue times lasted a few seconds.
A lot of people is disabling cross play on console now since they realized the huge gap (hardware differences and optimizations obv, also gamepad vs mouse and keyboard).
I was actually going against far more spirits on PC after crossplay was introduced because you console players are ######### shite and rely on ######### like that, I have since disabled it and I don't get many anymore, nor do I get completely clueless teammates.
as if killers are not toxic. you immediately called him a baby survivor just for saying he's tired of playing against the same killers. that's literally also toxic.
Its hard to beleive your post when you say there are a bunch of sweaty nurses on PC. Nurses are very rare, and they rarely win. I have not played against a highly skilled nurse since the rework. I have only died to nurses post-rework by NOED. Nurse is not A-Tier. Nurse does not have the capability to be A-Tier. Nurse is nowhere near the strongest killer. People supposing this is a possibility need to stop. Her base power, dedicated servers, terrible add ons, map designs relegate her to the worst killer in the game. Statistically she performs the worse. Anecdotally she performs the worst. Nurse is hot garbage. Anyone that was God Tier with her before is smart enough not to play seriously with her anymore. There is no god-tier Nurse post nerf. There is no unicorn.
You people really haven't seen yourself. It's always killers crying for changes, 90% of it on this forum. Is it cuz killer is underpowered? Nope, stats clearly show that isn't the case. It's just survivors play chill cuz they tend to like going against friends etc whereas killers sweat this game hard and half the time it just isn't fun. There is barely any variety and that's a fact, you can't blame a survivor bringing at point up. I use to play killer and I can agree that killers like spirit are incredibly fun to play, but man she got too easy because she is so OP and other killers just aren't on her level. Huntress is fun to play and go against IMO but man, it's not even because spirit is good, she just isn't fun to play against and nor are so many killers. It's poor game design, not poor balance where survivors are OP...
What I don't get as a fairly new player ppl in general are toxic which brings a massive dull to what is a great game, but also as watching streamers on twitch the resolution seams to be brighter which I'm imagining is down to tweeking graphics cards which in turn gives a better advantage over console players as we can't make it brighter to keep an eye on the world around our generators, so never mind the faster reaction/accuracy time of keyboard and mouse this in turn seams more unbalanced than any survivor/killer perk in one?
The problem is PC nurses have an advantage because they can use mouse and keyboard and we can't so playing nurse, huntress, hillbilly is almost impossible
Huntress and Nurse are almost unplayable without a mouse. OTOH, Billy is the only killer I prefer with pad. I find his saw much easier to control with a joystick and can curve effortlessly. Today I faced 4 console players (green ranks), so I tried Billy with pad and no sound at all as a challenge. Still got a 4k :)
I don't think the PC killers are intentionally playing sweaty, in fact, alot of them are trying meme builds or their non-mains in crossplay lobbies. The console survivors just aren't used to the pressure these killers can bring compared to the typical console killer.
I've been playing clown this past two weeks more than I have Last Year
Imagine thinking trying to win is a bad thing. Guess we should tell all those pro sports teams to stop "tryharding".
I'm a PC player and tbh the most common killer I face is probably Huntress. I hardly play against Nurses or Spirits, and, in fact, I play against Nurses so rarely I enjoy going against them because it's a nice change.
But killers can't just be called sweaty when there are soooo many sweaty survivors out there too with their typical builds (I'm a survivor main who doesn't run DH, DS, Adrenaline or anything like that). Just depends on the console and the individual players I guess.
How is playing a killer you like sweaty?
Welcome to pc. I tend to play a little bit of every killer. Yea some more than others but I myself like variety and know it’s fun to go against something different for once aswell
Welcome to PC
the truth is that it is fun to show new ones that he is a killer to his maximum potential 👌
just opt out of crossplay lol
I play sweaty bubba on switch, square up bro 😤
Hover over the option in your settings. You can't be matched with those on the same platform that are still opted in. If it was as you said, where you can match with any on your platform, I wouldn't be so salty about this change. But this outright feels like the devs forcing a very controversial update on all players.
It's gotta be said, I have a strong distaste for the direction the game is taking. Buffs for Franklin's that nobody asked for, legendary skins nobody asked for, and now this. Are the devs reading some secret forum the rest of can't read?
They screwed up including pc on cross-play. Anybody with a little common sense knows that pc has an advantage with frame rates, and such. Console players will be up against pc players that have put thousands of dollars into their systems to modify them into bad ass gaming systems and will easily destroy console players. I did a few cross-play matches last night to test the waters, and turned cross-play off. If it were platform's only, I'd probably keep it on, but pc. Nah.... On a side note, there should be a symbol showing what systems your teammates are on, and what the killer is on.
You can quite literally turn off cross-play. It's not hard. Just go in your settings.
To answer your question though, from a PC user? It's always been like this. Numerous killers all have skill-sets, but some are more reliable than others. With survivors running the same perks over and over- You should use the killer that's most effective against those builds. So yeah. We're not sweating. We're just trying to avoid the t-bag at the exit-gate. At least you're not getting face-camped by Bubba. Could be worse.
So here's the thing......yes. Pc killers can be very sweaty. But why do you think that is? Oh right....because pc survivors can also be very sweaty. What happens is - pc survivors will absolutely destroy someone who is playing, for example - Pig or Wraith...and will trash talk them in end game chat and make them feel bad. Because of that, it causes the person playing killer to switch to a stronger killer that has a better chance at winning against a good team. It all comes full circle, my friend. There's a reason for everything. Get ######### on by a toxic team? Welp, time to bust out Spirit with an Ebony Mori. Unfortunately though, a lot of the time killers will take out their frustration on innocent solo queue teams that just want to play the game normally. And in turn - makes those survivors become sweaty. It's a pretty toxic cycle. But in my opinion, if you just go into the game (whatever side you play) with the mindset of "I don't give a f***" - you will have a more enjoyable time playing. I stopped caring about sweaty players a long time ago and my DBD experience has improved. You can't change the way people play. Some games are fun, some aren't. But at the end of the day, it IS just a game. And you shouldn't ever expect strangers in an online game to play the way you want them to. That's just the way it is. But good luck in future games, and good luck against the sweat lords. My advice - try not to take it too seriously and have a laugh at the ppl that do😂❤