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Are killers trying to win considered as "sweaty" ?

ErkErk Member Posts: 230

The same question goes for survivors aswell. I try to win but I don't tunnel, camp or any of that stuff and at worse I pull out a 2K ! Am I really sweaty ?

I don't understand the mentality of "PC killers are sweaty". I think its because playing killer on console sucks so they get beaten easily ? Am I right about this ? We are just trying to win here, we are not ruining your fun, we are just playing the game. What do you want a killer to do, just give you BPs and let all of you go ? If I do that will I be not-sweaty ?

Oh, and as a side note : I won't know this but you will, if you try to piss off the killer, try to bully him or ruin his fun, he can do anything he wants do with you. If you bring OoO against a Trapper you deserve everything that comes your way.

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  • SlashstreetboySlashstreetboy Member Posts: 1,811

    It´s a way of trying to shame the opponent for trying to win in a pvp game. It´s funny because it´s so childish. Reasonable people don´t do that though so you get a pretty good idea about the people that call their enemy sweaty in DBD.

  • BullettimegodBullettimegod Member Posts: 963

    Sweaty to me is when a killer chases me for 2+ gens. Literally. But thats mostly out of frustration of "bruv...go kick a gen leave me aloooooone"

  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Playing a particular console isn't sweaty, from my experience sensitive players consider any player that actually tries to win "sweaty". Simple enough.

  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Ikr people always attack each other in this community like come on let's just laugh it out and have a good time playing games.

  • Vox_NocturneVox_Nocturne Member Posts: 545

    To those types of players, if you win then you're sweaty and if you lose you are a n00b. There is no inbetween apparently!

    As in any game, we play to win, even if our aims might be different! I fought a 4-man Red Rank SWF a couple of days back who did no gens, and instead were playing some other type of game. They did chases; they would sometimes rat each other out; they'd do sometimes quite funny things! But clearly, their aim was not to open the exit gates - they just were having fun! I sacrificed 3 and gave the 4th the hatch as I figured they were competing against themselves for a winner, but I still have no idea what their aim was. Maybe they just wanted to see who'd survive longest? Still, they had their own aim.

    Basically, you don't play to lose. Some people may set themselves challenges. I randomize all my perks and offerings, and each round I have my own aims, or aim for a minimum black pip or challenge. However, I still play to sacrifice them all as well. It's part of the game! So when people call others sweaty, it feels to me more like they're refusing to look at their own gameplay; instead just coming up with an excuse to save grace. I've been called trash after a 4k - it's just a bruised ego.

  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    The game is about nothing according to the devs, their input on the topics of competitive play versus casual play has made me realize that trying to please everybody ends up helping no one.

  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Nice job bringing "killers vs survivors" into this. You can play blindfold and killers will still call you toxic.

  • ZeusZeus Member Posts: 2,112
  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    I was also joking. See my use of the words "Nice" and "toxic"? Sorry if you were confused :)

  • WARW0LFWARW0LF Member Posts: 179

    trying to win is fine, it's when you get console plebs with the best iri add ons, plus noed plus a mori, that's true sweat

  • MadLordJackMadLordJack Member Posts: 8,815

    Honestly, when people talk about "sweaty" survivors, they usually mean "lazy" survivors. You know, the ones that use full second builds and do dumb shite that shouldn't even be possible, like locker DS and instadropping pallets. They aren't sweaty. They are calm, collected, brain-dead and still winning by virtue of that just being how DBD plays out. It is rare that people actually mean Deathsquads, SWF or otherwise.

    On the killer side, sometimes people do talk about Sniper Spirit or Forever Freddy (still a thing) as "sweaty" when they really mean "lazy", but it just isn't used as much. The only other "sweaty" killer thing I think of getting thrown around a bunch are mori's, but... Once again, no-one burns a Mori to get sweaty.

  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 7,318

    Sweaty usually means the opposite of lazy though? You have no logical basis sadly.

  • MadLordJackMadLordJack Member Posts: 8,815
    edited August 2020

    Thats kind of my point. People have confused what "sweaty" means. I never seem to see it used correctly, at least not in these forums. Exceptions do exist, if course, but they are exactly that.

    Edit: hang on, I just reread exactly what I wrote and it was pretty clear. What exactly are you confused about?

  • dugmandugman Member Posts: 5,789

    I literally had a rank 1 survivor in an swf using rank 3 meta perks complain I was “try hard” while I was a mid level Ghost Face with a meme build because I killed one of his friends with a mori. 😄 Sore losers will point at anything other than themselves for their loss.

  • GodotGodot Member Posts: 806

    Are survivors trying to win and doing the generators considered "sweaty"?

    Right back at ya, bucko.

  • DeadeyeDeadeye Member Posts: 3,446

    From my experience people just call everything somewhat, when it does not fit into their actual expectations, and choose whatever fits most. Tunneling more or less wasn't always a thing, it was kinda invented after camping was officially considered not bannable and legit. Soon after, when no tunneling, camping or whatever applied, it was tryhard or sweaty.

    You could do a 12 hook game with hook no. 9-12 being the killing hooks and get called tryhard. In my opinion tryhard is not even an insult. From the wording, I would rather say tryhard is when you try your best but still fail. In this game only applicable to slugging for 4k but then still failing with a 1 or 2 escape instead. But most people just use tryhard if they can't find any other excuse or insult that works.

  • LaakeriLaakeri Member Posts: 835

    I'm yet to meet a single console survivor that can run tiles optimally. All they do is fall over before the chase even begins.

  • mydogmax19mydogmax19 Member Posts: 266

    It's ok to have a winning mentality all the time. Nevertheless should it be seen as sweaty. Your ok dont think too much of what others think of you.

  • FellowKillerMainFellowKillerMain Member Posts: 727
    edited August 2020

    I always thought that the term sweaty tryhard was meant for someone who was being competitive when the rest of their team was trying to have fun. So like, you're part of an SWF and 3/4 of you are trying to mess around with the killer, but your fourth teammate starts criticizing everyone else for not doing objectives. The guy criticizing everyone else is the sweaty tryhard. As the killer, I don't see how it applies, because being a sweaty tryhard (in the eyes of the survivors) is the only way to really win as a killer.

    Edit: Also, I haven't had any problems 4king as a console killer with crossplay. If I didn't have the sensitivity BHVR recently added, I would have been in trouble. But PC survivors behave just like console survivors. Granted, they do spin A LOT more quickly. When I go up against a bunch of other platforms, I'm extra careful with aiming my hits.

  • ErkErk Member Posts: 230

    No, that's not sweaty. There is a clear difference between being sweaty and trying to win.

  • ErkErk Member Posts: 230

    Well, I think being sweaty is just ruining other peoples fun just to win

  • FellowKillerMainFellowKillerMain Member Posts: 727
    edited August 2020

    Hmm. I don't know how to make sense of that when taking opponents into consideration. I mean, we're on opposite teams, so how can the killer play in a way that's fun, but is also fun for survivors? I hit the same marks you do; no tunneling (I even avoid players that have been recently unhooked), don't use NOED, I don't camp. But then again, I haven't had anyone call me sweaty in a long time.

    Although, if this is the case... could we call survivors that use second chance perks like DS and BT sweaty tryhards? :)


    Edit: After reading other comments, I don't know if I understand what sweaty really is, or even what a tryhard is. I'm starting to think it's got some origin in subculture somewhere... lol

  • JustalittlepeeckJustalittlepeeck Member Posts: 1,101

    I don't understand why people made "sweaty" into an insult lmao.

    "Oh no, what an ass he tries to win in a game where your goal is to win"

  • AvilgusAvilgus Member Posts: 1,193

    4 survivors bodyblocking in the end-game to make everyone escape = WOW ! Epic teamwork !

    Trying to 4K = Sweaty/tryhard/toxic !

  • MoundshroudMoundshroud Member Posts: 4,460

    Ignore them, laugh at them, or tell them you love the salty taste of their tears. They are bad sports. We should be gracious in victory and polite in defeat.

  • xenofon13xenofon13 Member Posts: 1,241

    If they slug at 4-5 gens, yes.

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