Why so defensive?.... I know spirit is a touchy subject but C.H.I.L.L.A.X Bruh its a MEME. Also on a serious note, Where does it say EVERY survivor it says people not EVERYONE lol . and this was a rank one game with rank one survivors just to lyk.
EDIT: Also the first notice I have iri Unbroken meaning I was never caught, AND all 4 survivors got out if you watch to the end my friend saved Bill and then hatched.
Here's what I've learned facing Spirit when she's phasing. Uninjured: Walk. Injured move unpredictably. She is 110% after all so once she's out of phase she's easy to loop.
You won't. Im only saying that because you people honestly act like she is unbeatable. If i had known you would need proof i would have more I will clip all my spirit games from now on as well as go through all my vods this past week alone of all the spirits at rank one i have faced. you people are so funny someone makes a video of their "opinion" and you take their word as god.
Where is your proof that Spirit has no counterplay then? Who TF cares about SWF comms? I play on Xbox that's all there is, THAT IS LIFE. I play a 4 man SWF all day every day.
It's funny how you ask for proof of something, we give it to you, you dismiss it, post a video of a guy talking about the game as proof, then try to compare it to something completely unrelated.
First off: the fact you are looking up old posts I make is pretty weird dude, secondly I have nothing to prove to anyone on these forums. I play well vs Spirit because I know how to play well vs Spirit that's all there is to it. Believe that or don't, but looking up my old posts and linking them is pretty weird dude.
I have over 7000 hours in this game with 19k plus sacrifices and go against four stacks on comms on a daily basis I also play survivor alot as well but like scott i enjoy killer more But my opinion is not based on the side i play. I don't need someone elses opinion to sway mine. I never said I didn't agree with him on most of the stuff he talks about or I didn't have respect for him. I Posted a little joke that you took very seriously. I dont see a problem with spirit nor do i play as her often I Love going against a spirit because it is a challenge nothing more nothing less. She has weaknesses like every other killer just less of them which is fine with me. Its also funny how you stoop as low as insulting intelligence because someone has a different take on the situation.
Are you seriously comparing an amateur streamer with 100k subs to Bill Gates now? This Scott fellow's monthly estimated earnings is about 4-5k based on influencer sites, that's little better than being a waiter while doing something you enjoy I suppose, hardly hold his opinion as authoratative territory.
Kids these days see some dude on a screen and think their opinion magically holds weight.
I'm going to stop responding to you because you aren't here to actually see different views you just want to rant about how you think Spirit needs a nerf because you struggle to face her. Have a nice day.
I mean, if you take a very specific video from playing against survivors that obviously aren't playing their best yeah its gonna turn out like that. Even then spirit has no counterplay without perks. Iron will is obviously a counter but unless you bring it every game (which is fair) you are gonna face a spirit without it some time. and when that happens as long as the spirit knows how to use the power optimally and has a good set of headphones 9/10 she will hit you every time she comes out of phase. And if she doesn't she gets to try again in like 5 seconds.
Just because he plays on Twitch does not make him right about everything. I know pro players in some games and they had basically 0 understanding of the game's from a design perspective. This video is his OPINION nothing more.
First clip: Nothing happens. Everyone escapes. So?
Second clip: Everybody is dead, Spirit does a series of quite funny mistakes and the survivor escapes because of that. 🤔
Should they proof something or what is the purpose? I could also post 2 random clips where i escape a Spirit. Do they mean i beat Spirit? Of course not, i simply beat the player, or even better said, he beat himself.
Ah the 'ol "dismissing because killer not good" argument.
This place is a serious echo chamber. Come up with something new please.
Also in the first clip she was phasing to me at the door, I knew this and went for the pallet. Bill just happened to be there but i was going to drop the pallet and run to shack. She had to break that pallet because it was a corner pallet and she wouldn't be able to phase after me (plus she JUST used her phase). Then I got on the door and opened in despite her NOED and phasing to me.
It's proof that you can read a Spirit even if you can't see her.
EDIT: Also notice how I had both iri Unbroken and iri Evader. I ran this Spirit all game and escaped without ever getting caught.
Excuse me? "dismissing because killer not good" argument? I did not say that, maybe you were the better player, but how about we go together through the second clip:
00:17 I dont even know whats happening there, she simply lost you somehow for a short period of time so you could make it to the pallet. You did not outplay, she outplayed herself.
00:21 She is apparently phasewalking ... strange play. Maybe she was assuming you stay at the pallet. At least she could have forced you to the other side of the pallet. However, mistake by her. You jump down and then walk to the window. She should be able to hear your steps and you vautling the window. Mistake by her.
00:46 We are at the same situation again, she finally kicks the pallet. I have no idea what she was even doing during those last 20 seconds. I guess jumping down was 2 much of a mindgame.
00:57 You are trying a random mindgame. Why she is not listending to you movement? Instead she is using her power to do whatever she is doing there. Another dead obvious mistake.
01:14 She completly lost you.
I and probably everyone else who is trying to stay objective here will agree that she outplayed herself all the time and you did nothing special which she could not have used against you. Maybe you give us your POV about this situation.
And about the first clip lol.... You knew that she was coming? You saw it on your Spine Chill. The next Spirit is not looking in your direction because she is assuming you have Spine Chill and you go down because of that. Or she is antizipating you run to the pallet. Outplayed i guess...
SHOW ME PROOF YOU PLAY 100% PERFECTLY ALL THE TIME.
Seriously, nitpicking everything she did from my perspective instead of just acknowledging that maybe [BAD WORD] MAYBE Spirit actually has counterplay. The logical fallacies are mindboggling at this point.
But yea I guess anytime anyone shows a video of them outplaying a Spirit you will find a way to dismiss it because "no counterplay" LMAO Right yes, of course, literally nothing I did influenced her to make a mistake. She just did that on her own while I ran looking up with both my thumbs up my own ass. OMG
I can not show you proof that i play 100% perfect, because i dont. Nobody does that. Now please read this carefully, because if you understand it, we might not have to talk about this subject ever again ;)
Seriously, nitpicking everything she did from my perspective instead of just acknowledging that maybe [BAD WORD] MAYBE Spirit actually has counterplay. The logical fallacies are mindboggling at this point.
Relying on someones mistake is not counterplay! It is just relying on someones mistake. You even say it yourself. With your example you just say "she did mistakes, so i have counterplay" but again that has nothing to do with counterplay. You are simply relying on her mistakes. But relying on mistakes can not be counterplay for the side who has to hope the other side does those mistakes. Because, and now this is key - the survivor side in our spirit example has NO inpact if the other side is doing the mistake or not.
But yea I guess anytime anyone shows a video of them outplaying a Spirit you will find a way to dismiss it because "no counterplay" LMAO Right yes, of course, literally nothing I did influenced her to make a mistake. She just did that on her own while I ran looking up with both my thumbs up my own ass. OMG
This paragraph showcases how completly different we understand the term counterplay.
"I can not show you proof that i play 100% perfect, because i dont. Nobody does that. "
Then stop nitpicking the killer's mistakes. People [BAD WORD] up. Sometimes what someone else does [BAD WORD] you up. You seriously can't sit there and tell me that I did absolutely nothing in those videos to avoid getting caught and that it was all just her [BAD WORD] up.
I OUTPLAYED HER. End of story.
"This paragraph showcases how completly different we understand the term counterplay."
Yea, because if you can obviously outplay the other player there has to be some kind of counter play going on. The fact you and other continuously dismiss literally EVERY piece of evidence showing Spirit can be outplayed for any reason under the sun, expecting killers to play perfectly (which you are don't try to say you're not, otherwise you wouldn't nitpick like you do), just kinda shows none of you care about counter play. You just don't like Spirit. Which is fine, but don't sell [BAD WORD] opinions as facts.
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Going to be honest, I don't think in my 1300 hours on the game have I ever run back into a Spirit while she was chasing me, not even once.
Why so defensive?.... I know spirit is a touchy subject but C.H.I.L.L.A.X Bruh its a MEME. Also on a serious note, Where does it say EVERY survivor it says people not EVERYONE lol . and this was a rank one game with rank one survivors just to lyk.
"Give me proof something never happened"
First one is pre-Prayer Bead nerf but
EDIT: Also the first notice I have iri Unbroken meaning I was never caught, AND all 4 survivors got out if you watch to the end my friend saved Bill and then hatched.
https://twitter.com/JakeyyPark/status/1300993115180982273?s=20 this is rank reset doesnt show much but we 4 escaped a spirit in a tourny she had stridor also.
LOL
Askes for proof.
"Cherry picked".
You asked for a video I gave it to you. Enjoy.
But spirit is SOOO op swf shouldn't be a problem for her right?
Sorry but this was a tournament match destiny by daylight style. to where you can only use the teachables plus a perk of your choice.
We give you clips.
"NOT PROOF REEEE"
Proceeds to post a video of Scott Jund just talking about the game. No proof though...
Here's what I've learned facing Spirit when she's phasing. Uninjured: Walk. Injured move unpredictably. She is 110% after all so once she's out of phase she's easy to loop.
You won't. Im only saying that because you people honestly act like she is unbeatable. If i had known you would need proof i would have more I will clip all my spirit games from now on as well as go through all my vods this past week alone of all the spirits at rank one i have faced. you people are so funny someone makes a video of their "opinion" and you take their word as god.
Oh my goodness you really are too far gone we cant save you. I've officially conceded this argument. lolololol
Where is your proof that Spirit has no counterplay then? Who TF cares about SWF comms? I play on Xbox that's all there is, THAT IS LIFE. I play a 4 man SWF all day every day.
It's funny how you ask for proof of something, we give it to you, you dismiss it, post a video of a guy talking about the game as proof, then try to compare it to something completely unrelated.
Stick to the facts ma'am.
First off: the fact you are looking up old posts I make is pretty weird dude, secondly I have nothing to prove to anyone on these forums. I play well vs Spirit because I know how to play well vs Spirit that's all there is to it. Believe that or don't, but looking up my old posts and linking them is pretty weird dude.
I have over 7000 hours in this game with 19k plus sacrifices and go against four stacks on comms on a daily basis I also play survivor alot as well but like scott i enjoy killer more But my opinion is not based on the side i play. I don't need someone elses opinion to sway mine. I never said I didn't agree with him on most of the stuff he talks about or I didn't have respect for him. I Posted a little joke that you took very seriously. I dont see a problem with spirit nor do i play as her often I Love going against a spirit because it is a challenge nothing more nothing less. She has weaknesses like every other killer just less of them which is fine with me. Its also funny how you stoop as low as insulting intelligence because someone has a different take on the situation.
"A discussion video is proof"
That's not how this works.
Are you seriously comparing an amateur streamer with 100k subs to Bill Gates now? This Scott fellow's monthly estimated earnings is about 4-5k based on influencer sites, that's little better than being a waiter while doing something you enjoy I suppose, hardly hold his opinion as authoratative territory.
Kids these days see some dude on a screen and think their opinion magically holds weight.
I'm going to stop responding to you because you aren't here to actually see different views you just want to rant about how you think Spirit needs a nerf because you struggle to face her. Have a nice day.
I mean, if you take a very specific video from playing against survivors that obviously aren't playing their best yeah its gonna turn out like that. Even then spirit has no counterplay without perks. Iron will is obviously a counter but unless you bring it every game (which is fair) you are gonna face a spirit without it some time. and when that happens as long as the spirit knows how to use the power optimally and has a good set of headphones 9/10 she will hit you every time she comes out of phase. And if she doesn't she gets to try again in like 5 seconds.
Just because he plays on Twitch does not make him right about everything. I know pro players in some games and they had basically 0 understanding of the game's from a design perspective. This video is his OPINION nothing more.
First clip: Nothing happens. Everyone escapes. So?
Second clip: Everybody is dead, Spirit does a series of quite funny mistakes and the survivor escapes because of that. 🤔
Should they proof something or what is the purpose? I could also post 2 random clips where i escape a Spirit. Do they mean i beat Spirit? Of course not, i simply beat the player, or even better said, he beat himself.
says the one who trusts someone in a youtube video stating his opinions
Lol, gurl here is slinging around the burden of proof like we're all 24/7 streamers with thousands of hours of video proof.
Ah the 'ol "dismissing because killer not good" argument.
This place is a serious echo chamber. Come up with something new please.
Also in the first clip she was phasing to me at the door, I knew this and went for the pallet. Bill just happened to be there but i was going to drop the pallet and run to shack. She had to break that pallet because it was a corner pallet and she wouldn't be able to phase after me (plus she JUST used her phase). Then I got on the door and opened in despite her NOED and phasing to me.
It's proof that you can read a Spirit even if you can't see her.
EDIT: Also notice how I had both iri Unbroken and iri Evader. I ran this Spirit all game and escaped without ever getting caught.
Excuse me? "dismissing because killer not good" argument? I did not say that, maybe you were the better player, but how about we go together through the second clip:
00:17 I dont even know whats happening there, she simply lost you somehow for a short period of time so you could make it to the pallet. You did not outplay, she outplayed herself.
00:21 She is apparently phasewalking ... strange play. Maybe she was assuming you stay at the pallet. At least she could have forced you to the other side of the pallet. However, mistake by her. You jump down and then walk to the window. She should be able to hear your steps and you vautling the window. Mistake by her.
00:46 We are at the same situation again, she finally kicks the pallet. I have no idea what she was even doing during those last 20 seconds. I guess jumping down was 2 much of a mindgame.
00:57 You are trying a random mindgame. Why she is not listending to you movement? Instead she is using her power to do whatever she is doing there. Another dead obvious mistake.
01:14 She completly lost you.
I and probably everyone else who is trying to stay objective here will agree that she outplayed herself all the time and you did nothing special which she could not have used against you. Maybe you give us your POV about this situation.
And about the first clip lol.... You knew that she was coming? You saw it on your Spine Chill. The next Spirit is not looking in your direction because she is assuming you have Spine Chill and you go down because of that. Or she is antizipating you run to the pallet. Outplayed i guess...
SHOW ME PROOF YOU PLAY 100% PERFECTLY ALL THE TIME.
Seriously, nitpicking everything she did from my perspective instead of just acknowledging that maybe [BAD WORD] MAYBE Spirit actually has counterplay. The logical fallacies are mindboggling at this point.
But yea I guess anytime anyone shows a video of them outplaying a Spirit you will find a way to dismiss it because "no counterplay" LMAO Right yes, of course, literally nothing I did influenced her to make a mistake. She just did that on her own while I ran looking up with both my thumbs up my own ass. OMG
Seriously it's old at this point.
I can not show you proof that i play 100% perfect, because i dont. Nobody does that. Now please read this carefully, because if you understand it, we might not have to talk about this subject ever again ;)
Seriously, nitpicking everything she did from my perspective instead of just acknowledging that maybe [BAD WORD] MAYBE Spirit actually has counterplay. The logical fallacies are mindboggling at this point.
Relying on someones mistake is not counterplay! It is just relying on someones mistake. You even say it yourself. With your example you just say "she did mistakes, so i have counterplay" but again that has nothing to do with counterplay. You are simply relying on her mistakes. But relying on mistakes can not be counterplay for the side who has to hope the other side does those mistakes. Because, and now this is key - the survivor side in our spirit example has NO inpact if the other side is doing the mistake or not.
But yea I guess anytime anyone shows a video of them outplaying a Spirit you will find a way to dismiss it because "no counterplay" LMAO Right yes, of course, literally nothing I did influenced her to make a mistake. She just did that on her own while I ran looking up with both my thumbs up my own ass. OMG
This paragraph showcases how completly different we understand the term counterplay.
"I can not show you proof that i play 100% perfect, because i dont. Nobody does that. "
Then stop nitpicking the killer's mistakes. People [BAD WORD] up. Sometimes what someone else does [BAD WORD] you up. You seriously can't sit there and tell me that I did absolutely nothing in those videos to avoid getting caught and that it was all just her [BAD WORD] up.
I OUTPLAYED HER. End of story.
"This paragraph showcases how completly different we understand the term counterplay."
Yea, because if you can obviously outplay the other player there has to be some kind of counter play going on. The fact you and other continuously dismiss literally EVERY piece of evidence showing Spirit can be outplayed for any reason under the sun, expecting killers to play perfectly (which you are don't try to say you're not, otherwise you wouldn't nitpick like you do), just kinda shows none of you care about counter play. You just don't like Spirit. Which is fine, but don't sell [BAD WORD] opinions as facts.
To be fair self care is still the most used survivor perk despite the popularity of sloppy butcher resulting in many lost matches
Dont argue with it any good spirit is killing these guys guarenteed.