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So we are ok with generalising survivors now?



  • Komodo16Komodo16 Member Posts: 992

    Ranking up by stealth or swf is an eye opener because stealth helped me at purple ranks when I started and I stopped and learned I wasnt good as I thought. Then I learned looping properly

  • Komodo16Komodo16 Member Posts: 992

    Dude you don't even play toxic nor your teammates and hell whenever im with you I keep the toxicity in check unless the killer was toxic. Goes to show how prevalent assumptions are in this community. You don't even teabag or flash click without a reason or to your friends and you guys dont swarm hooks unless we all dont care bout dying like that match at dead dawg against the bad spirit I think

  • hillbillyclaudmain69hillbillyclaudmain69 Member Posts: 1,429

    100% agreed. Thats one of two infinites they havent looked at yet. The other is on haddonfield.

  • PigMainBigBrainPigMainBigBrain Member Posts: 849

    The thing you have to understand though is survivors are all the same pallet, they all play the same except with a variation of perks.....thats it!

    Killers on the other hand all understand that every single one of them plays differently, has different rule sets, strong points, and obvious weaknesses. I think from a psychological perspective, BHVR has unknowingly created a base of players on survivor side who literally can not adjust and play differently depending on the situation. Game in game out, they're used to doing the same things, If you're playing killer as soon as you move your character select to another killer, you're playing an entirely different game because they're all so significantly different.

    I'm not sure how BHVR can solve it other than what they've already been doing is outright giving tutorials and full on tells as to who the killer is and what to do. But at the same time, the more information they give, the more horror it takes away from the game, and the more it degrades the state of the game over time and while this is great for solo survivors it inadvertently also buffs SWF groups which the balance team doesn't even touch with a 10 foot pole because they would have to gut so many systems to balance around SWF completely ruining the solo survivor experience to the point where the game is completely unfair.

    So if they shift toward SWF and buffing killers the game dies because its brokenly unfair for survivors.

    If they shift balance toward solo, the game dies because its brokenly unfair and too much on the side of survivors.

    Thats all it boils down to.

    And if people can't change their playstyle BHVR needs to adjust things so you have no choice, or risk the game becoming a stagnant loop where everything is the same. And for an A-Symmetrical game thats a terrible hill to die on.

  • hillbillyclaudmain69hillbillyclaudmain69 Member Posts: 1,429

    Actually it is. If you have the option to opt out of swf games, queue times would be even worse. Idk if youve done this experimentally, but if youve turned off crossplay, your queue times are at least 30 minutes. Now imagine opting out of swf. With how many people play with their friends, you will be waiting at least an hour for a match. Also, solo is [BAD WORD]. I swf more than I solo now, because for some reason, 9/10 the randoms are potatoes who somehow got to red ranks vs a rank one killer with 3000 hours. If they didn't nerf ruin, this wouldn't even be a problem. Anyways, most people swf to not have to carry three idiots through the game. Thats why I swf. Also I swarm the killer in solo too, I'm the bitch who knows how to use a flashlight, and half the time I will FOLLOW you to flashlight save. Even in solo. Thats just how I am. Adding an opt out would be possibly the worst thing they could do. Queue times for both sides would be [BAD WORD], and everyone would do it, meaning no casual duo can find games. Thats not fair. What would fix swf, at least in high ranks, is to bring back old ruin. It kept good survivors at high ranks, bad ones at low ones, so that people don't be so inclined to play swf to get away from survivors that don't deserve their rank.

  • Jill10230Jill10230 Member Posts: 475

    Okay ankles ?

    How many killers have been nerves in the last 2 years ?

    Who weeps for the spirit and Bubba ?

    Lol, come on !😙

  • FresherPenguinFresherPenguin Member Posts: 2

    This is way off topic, but could someone direct me to a survivor guide book or killer guide book?

  • DeshDesh Member Posts: 877

    People generalize everything. Hell, the first comment to your OP was literally generalizing most people to be Killer mains who whine.

  • Raz_Raz_ Member Posts: 182

    survivors tools dont need nerfs as long killers like Spirit, Freddy, Pyriamid head, iri huntress etc exist.

    weak killers need buffs and BS designed killers need to balanced first.

    the game is full with dead zones.

  • pseudechispseudechis Member Posts: 619

    You've used that word incorrectly yourself. Glass houses and all. Debate is not your strong point, you should stop.

    To the OP a post complaining about killers generalizing all survivors is just a post doing the same to killers. We all need to stop with the constant them and us rhetoric it serves no purpose other than to divide the community and add to forum salt and toxicity.

  • BullettimegodBullettimegod Member Posts: 398

    Spoken like a no good neutral. Pick a side weirdo. /s

  • GeminiCrowGeminiCrow Member Posts: 54

    Your sentences kind of contradict each other, and you need to elaborate more. What are you even talking about?

  • azameazame Member Posts: 2,482
    edited September 2

    When it comes to killers I can acknowledge things that are straight up wrong but this is how I feel. Some killers just dont like survivors and insult them. You can say this forum isnt killer biased but it is. Which is fine having alot of killer mains wouldnt be a problem when alot of them just hate on survivors. I dont open these and abandon them I just went to sleep because it was late at night. No all dbd social media is populated by mostly people who favor killer.

  • azameazame Member Posts: 2,482

    No no no komodo you forgot I hate on killer mains and definitely dont want to see the side get their necessary buffs


  • azameazame Member Posts: 2,482

    Yes but the playstyle change from trapper to spirit in terms of chase isnt different. Every killer uses sound to locate survivors its one of the best tools if it works. As spirit you learn to use your ears often. If you have a good headset and stridor it's easy hits

    Nothing wrong with playing a killer you enjoy play whoever's you want but when your defense is looping and its rendered pretty useless it becomes quite predictable and boring.

  • azameazame Member Posts: 2,482

    Huh if swf isnt keeping the game alive why do you think they havent added an opt out button? This was answered already you wonder why it hasnt been added despite the fact it aint keeping the game alive. You hate swf because it's a challenge not all swfs are tournament swfs you are exaggerating heavily. You want easy kills it's ok to admit it. Sure good survivors play solo but the amount of bad outweighs them so you are almost always at a disadvantage.

    If one goes down we dont swarm the killer to blind or body block unless there is a reason to. And besides what's wrong with that it's called keeping our team alive didnt know that's "swf abuse" or whatever you call it.

  • azameazame Member Posts: 2,482

    Never specified which side was generalising just an assumption you made.

  • azameazame Member Posts: 2,482

    I've been clear with what I have to say if you cant understand I cant help you.

  • NekoGamerXNekoGamerX Member Posts: 3,551
  • BabyDweetMainBabyDweetMain Member Posts: 435

    How many posts on here are about DS, unbreakable, gen speed, stealth players, a pre-game EGC, swf, etc?

  • SchinslySchinsly Member Posts: 176

    nah this is pretty true, actually id lower the number to like 5% of survivors are experienced enough to where i would consider good

  • BabyDweetMainBabyDweetMain Member Posts: 435

    Aren't you the one who was pushing a false made-up narrative and pulling things out of your ass to try and prove a point on my post? Yeah your opinion doesn't matter to me and you're the last person who should be talking about being bad at debates.

  • BabyDweetMainBabyDweetMain Member Posts: 435

    No. Like I said that's just not true. That's a salt fueled bias. If anything, I can say the same for killers. Only 5% of killers who play are actually good, the other 95% sucks. But I'm not going to because like you, I don't have any evidence to back up that statement. Like you, I just pulled that statement out of my ass.

  • pseudechispseudechis Member Posts: 619

    Point taken, It was an assumption I made given the title.

    That said you are always gonna get stupid responses to any topic posted, such as "you just want easy wins" etc etc, and yeah it should be called out.

    But its better to ignore that crap and respond to the relevant posts about suggested counter play (given the spirit example you gave), I sometimes feel people don't want to discuss the topic they posted, they are looking for an echo chamber for people to just agree with them.

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