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A question for console survivors.

I'm not sure why but it seems 4/5 times when I play with or against console survivors one or more just straight up DC like they could be first hook and they get downed then just DC leaving the rest of us to finish by our self's I see all this crap with PC killers being toxic but you're no better when you leave your teammates because you get downed.

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  • ASurvkillivorerASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,609

    No console players want to play PC killers outside of delusional ones and people who only play the game in SWF. Hopefully it goes on and on until something is done.

  • Dr_SpekDr_Spek Member Posts: 17

    Its not that I just say this out of the blue like I said just about every game I play I get a DC and it was only from a console player. Not saying it does not happen with PC players just it happens a lot more when im playing with console. I can see someone doing it if they get tunneled to death hook but they get in a chase get downed then just DC. If it was like when they are stuck from the buggy hills or they are unable to do something thats fine but when they are active and get chased then DC thats a problem.

  • Dr_SpekDr_Spek Member Posts: 17

    Then why have crossplay on? And don't say "because we get lobby's faster" because if so then I expect that you would stay for the entire game not for the first 5 mins till you get downed.

  • ASurvkillivorerASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,609

    Because we want to play with PS4 and Switch not PC. Oh and the loss of our OWN playerbase when crossplay is turned off is sure nice.

    Crossplay is a joke. It benefits nobody but PC users really. Anybody playing solo survivor just gets screwed over harder than before.


    BHVR forced us to play with PC or have even longer wait times tf knda BS is that? Then we can't even participate in the end game chats.

  • CheeseAntonCheeseAnton Member Posts: 882

    Xbox gamer here. DCs used to never happen. They were so rare, and I played this game for hours. I honestly think the DCs are coming from PS4 and Switch players. That, or I was lucky as heck.

  • Dr_SpekDr_Spek Member Posts: 17

    I do wish other crossplayers could talk to us but other then that you can play against PC players and win I've seen it happen just because we are on another platform does not mean you can no longer win we are hard to play against yes but just giving up does not help any one. If cross play was really that bad then you would have your player base back but it seems most console players enjoy it or we would not see so many.

  • Captain_AAhabCaptain_AAhab Member Posts: 37

    I played a PS4 Doc game and 3/4 survivors DC’d...Can’t tell who they were due to the globe icon, but they weren’t PS4 players.

    DC’s happen on all platforms

  • Dr_SpekDr_Spek Member Posts: 17

    That's fair to say but i'm not just saying PS4 like 90% of the resent dc's have been crossplay that's why I say console i'm not sure what platform but it is not PC

  • ASurvkillivorerASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,609

    You have a permanent advantage in performance and controls. That alone is unfair and it can never be fixed. EVER.

    I bought a console game. I don't want to have to learn to play with mouse and keyboard even if we get support for it later.

  • Dr_SpekDr_Spek Member Posts: 17

    Performance maybe but controls? there is a difference sure but you have access to everything control wise same as us just because you have a controller does not mean you cant do the same things as us you can do gens, vault windows, drop pallets same as us.

  • ASurvkillivorerASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,609

    I have been playing console for years and of course all the streamers are PC players. I have always noticed how much better and SMOOTH the movement can be on PC. Survivors hug the loops MUCH more efficient and the same with killers. PC Killers can fake a direction with such swiftness it nearly looks like a single action. This of course has come into play when going against PC survivors as a console killer now. The PC players are on a different level with the way they move its so much more efficient they fake vaults so much better etc.

    This is due to the fact a PC player is using more of their physical ability to manipulate the controls .Its simple really. A PC player is using their entire right hand to focus their camera movement and a console player is using just their thumb. A PC player is using however many fingers to control everything else but again the console person is using their OTHER thumb. 2 thumbs Versus a hand and several fingers.

  • notstarboardnotstarboard Member Posts: 3,702

    The advantage is small for survivor, though. From what I can tell the performance is only really an issue if you're playing killer, unless you're facing Doctor with blight cosmetics or something. Survivors have the advantage of more precise movement (left stick) but have the disadvantage of less precise camera placement (right stick), so the controls advantage should mostly come out in the wash for survivor.

    The other thing to note is that any potential disadvantage for console players would be resolved by a decent matchmaking system, which the game does not have, and which is a much bigger issue for both PC and console right now.

  • ASurvkillivorerASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,609

    I really don't get where this "controller is actually an advantage for survivor" nonsnese came from. In no way is the joystick an advantage when its still controlled by ONE thumb as opposed to multiple fingers on a keyboard. Probably just PC players filling the air with it so try to hide the advantage they hold.


    You can see this clear as day that PC survivors have better movement than console players do.

    I've been playing on xbox since 2017 and if I play halfways serious I am a rank 1 killer. When get 4 rank 1 PC players its like I am playing the game pro or something. Console is the minor leagues and PC is the major leagues. They are SO MUCH better.

  • Lost_in_the_FogLost_in_the_Fog Member Posts: 451

    I've only played on pc and I've only ever used a controller. It's not impossible to play against pc killers. It's just going to take getting used to.

    The problem with the entire DBD community is every time there's any sort of change that requires adjusting of play style they respond by throwing temper tantrums. This same thing happened when new Freddy came out. There was a massive wave of DC's. I thought there were supposed to be DC penalties buy I guess they turned them off when they introduced full crossplay?

  • JPLongstreetJPLongstreet Member Posts: 3,052

    I've been stuck crouching plenty of times on my Xbox. Vaulting or Dwighting fix it for me.

  • notstarboardnotstarboard Member Posts: 3,702

    PC players have WASD. A joystick is way more precise than that regardless of how many fingers are operating it; for comparison, WASD would be like if you had to use your d-pad for movement.

    PC players are probably better on average because more of them are playing with headphones, and because we've been trained by PC Huntresses, Nurses, etc. who do have a distinct advantage over console.

  • ScienceGirlScienceGirl Member Posts: 92

    I made a rank 1 PC Nurse DC today because he couldn’t down me during a chase. I’m playing on PS4. Not all of us are incapable of playing with PC players lol.

    The Nurse who was streaming was also accusing me of cheating as obviously that was the only reason he got outplayed.

    I was also with a Legacy Dwight today and was expecting him to really outplay me, but he got hooked twice and I escaped all 3 of the chases I got into. He also escaped the match with 15k and I had 28k. Console definitely has issues with optimisation but it doesn’t make me unable to play and play well.

  • Dr_SpekDr_Spek Member Posts: 17

    Exactly they are making it out to seem like its totally unplayable against PC. I does not matter what you use so what we get WASD all the buttens you need are right next to your fingers as well. and about us having headphones I know for a fact PS4/Xbox you can connect headphones that are just as good as ours.

  • SavouryRainSavouryRain Member Posts: 340

    Addendum: Joystick is better for precision, but WASD is better for things like strafing in a first person shooter. So for other games, you have to decide what advantage you want.


    In dbd, it doesn't really matter.

  • JPLongstreetJPLongstreet Member Posts: 3,052

    The major difference is playing as killer on a console. We all have to deal with the same maps, bugs, and perks, but it is in this role that the frame drops hurt so bad. Please please please if you're on PC borrow a friend's PS4 or whatever and give it a go as a killer.

  • Dr_SpekDr_Spek Member Posts: 17

    Trust me I understand how bad killer is for console but this entire discussion is about survivors. A console killer going against PC survivors I get how that can be unfair because as killer you cant do all the things having a mouse lets us do, but survivor it doesn't really matter the only thing that PC can do better is move the camera faster.

  • dollbaby7870dollbaby7870 Member Posts: 26

    I play on the PC with a controller and headphones most of the time because I enjoy sitting back in my chair. I've found the only disadvantage I have versus using the keyboard is it is harder to 360 a killer. Not impossible but harder. I still usually get slaughtered by rank 1 killers but not always.

    The streamers use high end PCs so yes their videos will always look good. Not all PC players have such high end PCs.

    I too have noticed that about 25% of games with console players result in a DC. It's more of a whatever now I've come to expect it.

    I can say that as a terrible rank 18 killer I now get matches immediately against legit same rank survivors so at least now I can do the rift challenges. Granted I don't do the killing ones and I spend the match doing the challenge then I wait at the exit gate and open it as soon as the last get pops but at least it's fun now! Challenge done, everyone escapes, I'm not having red rank PC survivors and I only wait a minute to get a match versus 20+ minutes pre crossplay. So for all the DCing it's worth it to me.

  • ToxicMyersToxicMyers Member Posts: 1,295

    I'm sick of these posts constantly generalizing platforms. Just shut up and deal with it or turn off cross play if you think that's an issue

  • PigMainClaudettePigMainClaudette Member Posts: 3,842

    No, I'm the same. Unless we're both on the Aus Sydney servers.

  • ScienceGirlScienceGirl Member Posts: 92

    The whole headphone argument made me confused as almost everybody I know on PS4 plays with a headset? Especially on multiplayer games. How do people think console players talk to each other without a headset? lol.

    At the end of the day, most of the ‘skill’ in this game comes from being able to predict what people are going to do and mind game, which I don’t have a problem with. I’ve never once felt inferior since having crossplay enabled.

    The only negative thing I’ve noticed is that when I go against a PC killer I will experience more frame drops when new status effects are applied, which can be troublesome but it hasn’t screwed me over yet, so it’s all good.

  • ScienceGirlScienceGirl Member Posts: 92

    To counter this, I’m a PS4 player and I’m seeing more DC’s now from people with globes next to their name. I know for a fact a lot of them have been PC players because it’s sometimes really obvious with the usernames they have. The rest are either XBOX or Switch.

    I suppose the point I’m making is that every platform is experiencing DC’s.

    Also, I’ve been running into a lot of TTV survivors and killers since crossplay. It’s really fun being able to watch my matches back and see things from somebody else’s perspective. Although one guy was shouting abuse at us because none of us replied with “GG” even though we were on console and couldn’t see the chat... 🤦🏻‍♀️😂

  • KatzengottKatzengott Member Posts: 612

    Console players DC, PC players DC. That's why i want penalties back. ASAP.

  • CheeseAntonCheeseAnton Member Posts: 882

    Nope, I live nowhere near Australia.

    I mean, I'm not saying Xbox players don't DC, I'm just saying, from my personal experience, they seem to do it less. But like I said, I could just be extremely lucky.

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