the one person who got it right
survivor mistakes just matter less in the outcome of a match this will always be in the game so long as it stays 4v1 game
Lol how about look at more then the first page. Most of those are just ones salty killers are telling them to screw off on. Over the few months I've been on the forums I've seen 30 different posts of DS complaints from killers with over 100 comments, 20 different complaints about the hatch with 100 comments each, 10 different posts about keys, 5 different posts about Morris, 20 posts about camping/tunneling (each), 15 different posts about 99'ing, 20 posts about DCing from both sides. And these are just the ones I remember the most. PH is op, as is and that's why they are changing him up. He is still new. The rest? They need to be worked on but BHVR refuses to except with minor tweaks here and there. So again. Both sides are salty but killers are bitchy more outwardly
Well take it from someone who has been on the forum for over a year, not just a few months, you are incorrect and those numbers are really low for the survivors side so I think your confirmation bias is kicking in lol. PH is not op, most of the community agrees as indicated here
He might be strong but thats it, and strong is good. Whats next, DS is fine and doesn't need to be changed? or gen times are ok with the map design we have? Honestly.
If all you have are anecdotes, made up numbers, and nothing to show for it please stop. I've given you 2 measurements that you can view yourself, which considering the topic is more than enough when you've given me none.
I guess if your SWF is all 500 hours and have the map landmarks memorized survivor is easier.
Otherwise, playing killer and knowing the survivor spawn algorithm is pretty easy...
I mean solo survivor can be Incredible easy because you can be hard carried by your teammates 🤷♂️
Weird thing then, I usually play solo sometimes a 2 man and we rarely lose.
Hahaha I'm rank 1 as killer and survivor. Played as a killer is very stressful Vs swf, 1 vs 4, big maps, every 10 meters there are pallets... As a survivor I can do my homework and do a gen with 1 hand ...
I knew totem spawns, gen locations all well before I even got 100 hrs in the game.
Same as the maps, they are not that difficult to memorise at all.
When you play survivor and you sit comfy at a gen and looking around.
You can allready lay out a plan.
Like i got a pallet there leading into a tl, overthere I got a jungle gym and overthere I got something else.
That is exactly how I play survivor, I lay out a plan to escape and loop the killer as long as possible.
As killer you have to do that on the fly 99% of the time.
You also have to keep pressure on 4 people, trying to get into their mind,etc.
So basically find a survivor, down a survivor, pick the survivor up, bring him to the hook and hook him and then do that another 11 more times.
As survivor it's a matter of doing 5 gens and waste time off the killer and not getting downed is a lot of time wasted on him.
Exactly, survivor is easier, that's my point :)
It's not hard in general as survivor tho.
Like just now I finished a game vs ghostface and went down just once after a long time.
He came straight back to me after unhook and we had a massive chase again.
All that time I wasted of him costs him 3 gens.
After that it was gg even though he got 1 because that guy got greedy.
I played solo and the rest of my team I can't say if they were swf
Solo survivor is harder than killer. SWF is easy mode, you can rely on them not to DC or Suicide and get the right perks.
Nah I would say that tbh.
As long as the rest of the team just do their tasks and aren't scared, I will manage my own.
A lot of time I see 2 survivors or more working on 1 gen.
The killer comes to them and all just disappear and only come back after a while.
If I'm working on a gen and i see the killer go after the other survivor, I'm back on the gen.
Even if the killer is like 10m away.
It's just a matter of learning the tiles and how to optimise them.
If possible even chain 2 or more loops into 1, especially if the killer doesn't break a pallet you can create an infinite loop.
Killer is only easy if the survivors are potatoes.
Survivor is easier to play. You have teammates to rely on, and even when they suck they're at least wasting the killer's time.
Killer is much harder to play, more frustrating too. The game is simply designed to make you play scummy if you want to win/do well against survivors who just sit on gens.
The only positive to playing killer is that you cannot be taken out of the game prematurely.
Well you are partially right. Playing with survivors at your skill level is way easier than killer, but bad matchmaking makes survivor about as frustrating as killer. Survivor is the easy role.
God you arent very bright. That's how many different posts there were. They each had many comments and were the talk till either they were closed, forgotten, or came to a stalemate. But even in the survivor complaints, it was filled to the brim with entitled killers complaining about survivors and in the killers complaints the survivor are drowned, scoffed at, argued against, and just downright hated on. I spent many days on each of them countering both sides. So no. Those numbers are perfect in a rounded number for the last few months
I had a dedicated group of red players and we talked on mic all the time. We communicated and we always did good. Till the killer would turn around and either tunnel, camp, morri or just play bubba and do all 3. So no. Playing survivors is only easy against potatoes killers. But that's highly unlikely as they have every capability to be cheap. Survivors are much harder to do that especially with the hit radius. To quote Ohmwrecker, "Ah! What's with those spaghetti arms?!"
Calm down there butthole, I know that's what you were trying to say but as far as I'm concerned you pulled those numbers out your butt crack. I'm still not seeing anything I can go and check right now, which is what I told you to do if you can. Guess comprehending something so simple is beyond you and you don't have anything substantial. Just stories anyone can make up and a lot of bias. God your not very bright :)
Whatever, bruh. You were in almost every single one I'm talking about so you know I'm right.
Mhmm suuuure. Even if I was in these supposed threads, that literally proves nothing, much less that you're right about anything thats been brought up. Someones getting desperate "bruh", and its not me. So yeah go run along, the adults need to talk.
Lol you know how people can tell I'm right? Cause now your playing the, "you have no proof, bruh. Sorry. You're wrong." So go ahead and play the card. Cause only people who have lost use that card.
only time survivor is hard is when your solo and you got crapy teammates even then you can get hatch but killer is this harder.
Agree to disagree?
Are you trying to say you're right without even a shred of proof or examples when I've already provided examples? Wow you really can't stand being wrong can you. What's going to prove the argument, feelings?
You literally pulled the "whatever" card and the "you know I'm right" card, only people who know they have nothing to show pull those insubstantial, grasping at straws, I wanna have the last word and not admit I'm wrong, statements. Just get over it, you lost.
Still not addressing anything I brought up btw :)
And if you screw up, nobody can help you, but four people will punish you for it.
Wait wait wait. So the first page (which literally updates every second due to somebody posting and is never an accurate account of what is truly what you and I are discussing) is proof you are right? I'm talking over a period of time. You are talking about what it was at that second. You do know it changes, right?
It says right there what is said it was, an example, c'mon you can at least try to read. If we're talking about time I'v been here over twice as long as you have, so I also have you beat in that category so idk why you're even bringing it up.
Oh right you want to use made up numbers. Well there have been 300 survivor complaints compared to the 100 killer complaints in the last year. Is that better?
I'm so sorry. Forgive me, my liege. I didnt know I was in the presence of such.... royalty. You are god and 100% correct in everything you say and I worship thee. Forgive my insolence, Lord Penguin. I'm such a peasant compared to you and my legitimate experience is nothing compared to your obvious skimming through the first page. Please forgive me.