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The Psychological Effect of DbD

CrowFoxyCrowFoxy Member Posts: 1,273

I recently started thinking and studying into some psychological stuff and even unironically spoke to my own therapist about how dbd might have an overall negative impact on my mental health.

The results and responses I got were staggering, but won't take long to share.

This is just ONE medical professionals opinion of course, but feel free to ask your own. My therapist believes with dead by daylights gameplay, combined with reward from win/loss, community responses I showed (screenshots of post game etc, chat messages from consoles), that dbd can have a profound negative impact on your mental health.

And I agree. It may be "just a video game." But that's a weak argument. Dbd can hurt people, and be unfair, and not fun and that's okay! It's a competitive game, you can change your mindset. But I thought some people just might need to hear this for once.

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  • CrowFoxyCrowFoxy Member Posts: 1,273

    Yes, this is true. Any pvp multiplayer game can trigger the same effects. Humans are intelligent, but we are also machines driven by instinct. But that's not a topic for the dbd forums.

  • MoundshroudMoundshroud Member Posts: 4,460

    It sounds like you should take your therapist's advice, since I expect you are paying him/her for it. As for myself, my marbles still seem to be rolling around my skull regularly and in the same orbit as before I started playing this game. My own advice, and I am not mental health professional, is that healthy, well-adjusted people have no more to fear from this (or any) video game than they do from any other diversion. People who are not healthy or well-adjusted can be triggered or damaged by just about any kind of negative feedback loop.

    As for people hearing this notion "for once" ...I doubt that there is anyone playing video games alive that has not heard the theory that violent video games are dangerous and can somehow lead to destructive or self-destructive behavior. They have said the same thing in regards to mental health about Rock and roll, television, short skirts, Feminism, and literally every religion and/or political construct that has ever come about. I'm not trying to be snarky (well maybe a little) but your Therapist (and now you) are making the same kind of broad, general statements that Nostradamus (as well as your garden variety fortune teller) did. It works like this, Person-A makes broad, general statement of impending doom. Over the course of time something negative is bound to happen that can be implied to have proven said statement. Do you see where I'm going with this?

  • CrowFoxyCrowFoxy Member Posts: 1,273
    edited October 2020

    I sort of see where you're going, but I don't want to start an argument here on to why I think 99% of this is wrong.

    I will say, you need to not make such broad statements about who is and who isn't affected by the game, it is perfectly normal and healthy to be upset and affected. Take a break! That's just as bad as making a broad statement of "impending doom". Thank you.

  • MoundshroudMoundshroud Member Posts: 4,460
    edited October 2020

    The fact is a huge number of people play video games of this nature but only a tiny minority go off the rails. Statistically, it is the same number of people, usually coming from the same backgrounds and environments, and/or suffering from the same pre-existing conditions that actually suffer ill-effects. For example, if one is an alcoholic, or it runs in one's family, it is probably not a good idea to drink. To repeat my point, if YOU are seeing a Therapist, then you have some issues you are already aware of and if your Therapist (whom you are paying) says this game is bad for you, I think you should leave. However, please do not project your concerns and your issues on everyone else.

  • RivynRivyn Member Posts: 2,809

    I agree.

    I think this plays more of an effect in DbD, simply because it's a 1v4. Either you smash a team of four, and feel the need to belittle, or you torment a single player, and usually have three others that'll jump on the bandwagon with you. This 'us vs them' system that's been cultivated really drives that home.

  • MrLimonkaMrLimonka Member Posts: 545

    If your mental health is at risk because of a video game, then I think competitive games are not for you. Try playing Animal Crossing instead..

  • BioXBioX Member Posts: 1,378

    goes further then that, technically just life can have a profound negative effect on your mental health, could also be possitive, depends on what kind of person you are.

  • adsads123123123123adsads123123123123 Member Posts: 316

    That's your therapist's opinion on your experience of DBD. It's not reflective of everyone.

  • XyvieliaXyvielia Member Posts: 1,652

    Thanks for posting this.

    NO ONE talks about it.

    Many will deny it, some will lash out at you for it; others will agree... regardless, Don’t let any of them affect you and your positive psychological setting.

    Much of what you are referring to does depend on the mental strength of a person.

    Anyone can be effected by anything at any given time (especially mentally) without the proper protection in place.

    Gaming on it’s own becomes an addiction; as it does (like any drug can cause) the addicted become further less likely to admit there are any issues, and often defend themselves and the cause of the addiction (eg. the games) downplaying and projecting the blame onto other people/ things. Fortnight has had a severe impact on many kids, especially those under the age of 13... many of whom game 8-24 hours a day, sometimes even for days on end.

    As far as DBD goes, I’ve heard more from people who will admittedly describe how being a Killer Main has gradually conditioned their subconscious to murderous instinct in everyday life (during conversations, arguments, at school and while working). The consequences of continuously harming, murdering people for hours upon hours every day can have a tendency to negatively affect certain people, potentially causing drastic consequences.

    Regardless of the mental stability of players, the content of games creates an imprint (kind of like a footprint in concrete) on player’s minds. The more malicious, sadistic, dark and evil the repetitive content and interactions in games, the greater negative impact is on the players and potentially those in their sphere of influence (even thinking about killing someone in real life is hellishly, eternally toxic to the soul).

    People argue these truths back and forth (especially gamers and designers/ creators with those in the psychological field) all the time.

    Not all gaming is dangerous, tho. Even DBD can have a positive effect on focus, alertness, concentration, coordination, etc. Majority of games provide these positives for players.

    When the negatives are having more of a prominent impact on gamers, then it’s time to play another game.

  • DzeikorDzeikor Member Posts: 704

    Well this is a game that can make other people send you death threats and rage like crazy,will BHVR do anything about this?Probably not.

  • DabihwowDabihwow Member Posts: 3,409

    Sadly yeah this game has affected me psychologically when I first started playing it, thankfully now it doesn't affect me as much but hopefully for the future of things the devs understand this and probably find a way to make it where it is a safer environment to play

  • lucid4444lucid4444 Member Posts: 682

    That 2nd interview clip, wow. I guess that's the answer to my question of "why do moris (and broken items/add-ons) exist". They want you to be pissed off that you got tunneled and mori'd because apparently that keeps you playing (???).

  • ZaKzanZaKzan Member Posts: 550

    There's a strategy to this, and it takes advantage of the addictive nature of variable reward. This concept is most notably present in gambling, but video games can be designed around it.


  • SonzaishinaiSonzaishinai Member Posts: 5,867

    It's good to be aware that everything has an effect on mental health. Both positive and negative.

    It's a good habit to find where the negative effects are coming from

  • bilauetabilaueta Member Posts: 341

    Tbh dbd has made me hate to not be in control of a situation. Whenever I'm playing some board game and I am losing by a lomg stretch I just don't see the fun in the game anymore. It's sometimes my fault and sometimes the other players get lucky but I just can't enjoy the game anymore because I see no thrill in being left behind with no chance to catch up

  • MeltingPenguinsMeltingPenguins Member Posts: 3,437

    Not just those.

    It's our society that has us be self-destructively competitive, to the point where we'll turn every game into a competition.

    Just look at people getting worked up over their island rating or collections in Animal Crossing.

  • Jill10230Jill10230 Member Posts: 475

    When I watch some Youtuber they have no feelings, they hang the last survivor, as if they were playing with their lives...



    Yes, there are bad people! But I prefer to show good to bad people than to give bad ! If you need BP YES, you have the right to play your game the way you want, you hook everyone. But when you don't need it and you have unlocked everything where is the fun of hock everyone and create even more rage (salt)?



    Yes, I got angry on a Zarina red rank 1... 3 games to get it, I got it down, and I camped it but towards the end I thought these friends would come back to save... at the same time they knew I had mastered my Nurse. I wanted to show her that being a toxic addict was useless to win, because in the first game I wanted to let everyone out, she and her friends would have scored a lot more points... If she had been normal I might not have killed anyone!



    In short, stay yourself and don't get angry anymore for toxic people, leave it, move on !🤗

  • CleviteClevite Member Posts: 3,940

    Yeah but when rage quiting a board game, you got to pick up all the pieces.

    @Orion the Lebowski reference, love it!

  • bilauetabilaueta Member Posts: 341

    Oh no, I take the L (I may be mad, but I'm no coward)

    Usually when games go too bad as survivor I try to farm, but if the killer just want to get kills after two survivors dc (which is fair) I just try but have no hope of even getting close to winning

  • Fog_KingFog_King Member Posts: 688

    It's not only DBD, but games can have negative impact on your mental health, for sure. Of course, every person is different and if you feel the game is actually having a negative effect on you, you should either stop playing or take a break. Sometimes that is all is needed, other times it's not. Either way, no game is worth it, if your mental health is constantly at risk.

  • kawaiikannibalkawaiikannibal Member Posts: 74

    I imagine any PvP game can really make you do that though. Or anything competitive. There's a reason why the word "loser" means so much more than just "the person who lost the game".

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