Just once? Nah, not an argument.
I disagree. It matters a lot if one arsonist sets one fire and another sets ten. Legal systems in most countries recognize this for virtually every crime in existence.
They are not equally guilty, which is a nuance you want to ignore so you can say both sides are the same instead of addressing that for each toxic killer, there are more than 4 toxic survivors.
A survivor said he was going to track down and #########/kill my wife and children. I have never received anything like that from killers.
You see more toxic Survivors because the population HAS to be higher but that doesn't mean that its somehow worse.
I already told you they're disproportionately toxic.
I can't because I'm not writing this stuff down, This is just my experience.
And neither do you, because nobody writes this stuff down. We're all sharing our experiences and perceptions.
I'm glad you see how silly your request is now that it's being applied to you.
Hey, you're the one who asked me for evidence of my perception (which is based on my experience) first, I just asked the same of you. So the answer to "evidence of what" is "the same evidence you were asking of me", whatever that may be.
Yes, survivors are more toxic then killers mostly. But let's just realize that there are lots of toxic killers too.
The quote about living long enough to see yourself become the villain has never been truer than with the dead by daylight survivors.
I will say, I've had survivors send rather concerning death threats to me when I played killer, but I've never had a killer take the time to detail how I'm gonna die in real life.
This was just last night. It's not an uncommon occurrence. Happens on both sides, it's just more prominent from survivors since it's the larger population at any given time.
Oh god. That's too far. Attack the opponent not the family, that would be murdering innocents(not saying murdering you is any better,)
Yeah... I get way more evil survivors than evil killers. However, that might just be because of the math: as survivor, there's 3 others who also have to be decent. As killer, there's 4 others.
Wow, people are sometimes toxic in online video games? Eye opening post, never realized it.
And you dare say... People are mean more often when they're in a group, relative to a person alone?! (killers). ASTONISHED.
Thank God we have this post to help the developers figure out how to solve this catastrophy. It's not like we have an option to just ignore it and move on to the next game.
If you play killer more than survivor you're seeing 4 different survivors a match. If you main survivor you're seeing 3x the amount of survivors per game than killer. I can only imagine why people see more survivors being toxic than killers.
Bro he's giving you his anecdotal experience which is all any of us have to go off of. There aren't numbers. Unless BHVR is keeping track of bans and playtime of each respective side. Literally none of us know what the ratio of toxic players is. We can only make guesses taking into account personal experience and how often a particular side is encountered. You're arguing about nothing lmao
this what I do suck one game make us have to turn off all massaging and friend requests.
I agree. I haven't been playing all that long, about 200 hours but I have 7000 hours on CSGO alone, among many other FPS shooters and multiplayer games and it is always the vocal minority. However, it feels as though DbDs vocal minority is barely a minority. I always get GG WP.from killers or nothing at all, but in my 200 hours of playing, mostly killer (deathslinger), I have received 2 games where I have even seen a GG. Always, gg ez, uninstall, git gud. Tbaggers, flashlight clickers, glitch abusers etc etc. Killers get a lot of flak for tunnelling, moris etc but never have I been angry about that stuff, all part of the game. While flashlights and crouching are, being an ass isn't. It's sad, I love the game. I just continue to try and be the light in a see of darkness. I always say ggwp and often say things like "great job with unhooks,' or "great looping."
Survivors are definitely more toxic verbally.
Killers will hop on freddy equip a ebony mori and proceed to play in the most toxic way possible.
It's a never ending cycle.
Those 3 are probably trying to derank or smurfing lol..
Just a joke :)
Honestly I think disabling the chat in public games would make everyone a favor all around lol in dbd.
Indeed. I even tried to show them that by asking them the exact same request they asked me, but I don't think they got it.
It's really just the nature of the game. At high skill level the survivors are mostly the ones in control and they aren't afraid of the killer really. They just constantly try to toy with them.
Survivor games barely change. You do gens and you try to loop. All the survivors are the same. Survivors expect to win every game and really it's their game to lose. I think toxic survivor mains mostly have to add this extra component of picking on killers to have fun, while also getting angry if killers don't pay right.
Killers can mix it up. Often paying killers they aren't entirely good at. We know when we've had as bad game and we never expect to win 100% of the time. We know exactly what to expect from survivors. Winning is satisfying enough and we don't take losses too hard. We have tons more ways to lose making it easier to swallow.
To be honest, I expect messages when I play Killer nowadays. Happens more often than not, but I have fun with it after I found a website that has all kinds of random facts. I'll scroll through, copy and paste a fact I like and that's my response. This screenshot was after one of my Plague games.
This accomplished two things
1. I confused him.
2. I stealth insulted him, claiming he had no friends.
So far, this strat is 8 for 8 : no responses and have gotten blocked all 8 times. 😂😂
It's true. People tend to remember bad things more. I personally used to think survivors only said gg when they won, so I paid more attention and noticed this wasn't the case at all.
So after reading this thread this is what it all boils down to.
Survivors: I DIED SO JM GOING TO TELL THE KILLER IM GOING TO MURDER HIM, THAT HE IS TERRIBLE AND SHOULD FEEL LIKE SCUM?!!?!?!!!!!!😡😡😡
Killers: These last 8 games people told me to kill myself, im going to start playing more to have fun, killing with moris and just enjoy myself instead.
Survivors on forums: SEE KILLERS USE MORIS SO ITS JUST AS BAD, LOOK AT DUMB KILLERS THINKING WE ARE TOXIC, YOU SHOULD ALL DIE AND LEAVE THIS GAME.
Yeah this thread shows survivor main bias lol
Between the teabagging, flashlight clicking, and post game trash talking, my experiences with most survivors are overwhelmingly negative.
It's bad, I fill out the surveys every time telling BHVR that it's honestly ruining the experience for me, but what are they gonna do about it? Give survivors a penalty in-game for BM? Not likely. All these salty little shits would ragequit in a heartbeat.
This is by far the stupidest discussion I've ever read and I love it
At this point I should bring out popcorn and watch what happens next
Some people play to discharge their frustration. Not to "have fun." They probably think they're good at it, too. So if they win, they'll want to make everybody know—they'll act toxic. Since they're such "good players," they'll expect a good outcome from every match. So if that good outcome doesn't happen—they'll act toxic.