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Adept on killer is ridiculously difficult

I'm a fairly apt killer, I've been to red ranks with them. The problem that I see is that getting adept on survivors is monumentally easy (I have it on all of them) and ridiculously more difficult on killer (I have just Trapper so far). The requirements are a bit too heavy and I think a "merciless" should be a bit easier to come by. There's a severe difference in ability between killers and survivors of similar ranks. I am currently at rank 17 as I haven't played for a while so I figured "Why not get some easy adepts?". Seems I was mistaken in trying. Smurf accounts, cheaters, and other miscreants preventing me from even enjoying the process of getting adept. :/

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  • Ryan489xRyan489x Member Posts: 761

    I just got adept pig myself and my god was that a pain in the ass. I've had 4k with the shape and I still didn't get it. For killers it's all about the amount of points you get in each scoring category. for survivors it's just getting out with their 3 perks. You're right much easier on that side. I like getting the adepts just to say I've done it. I've got a fair amount of adept survivors, as for killers I only have the trapper and now the pig.

  • 53nation53nation Member Posts: 581

    Shouldn't be toooo bad at 17. As others said, use your favorite add on and be sure to make games last as long as possible.

    Slug for the 4k when there's only 2 left. Play silly, dropping chases to break pallets and such. I got Doc, GF, and clown one afternoon playing this way.

  • Lavos99zLavos99z Member Posts: 108

    Thanks for the input guys! I got Adept Wraith by virtue of the people not being particularly great. I'll try to draw out games when I see the chance. :)

  • PulsarPulsar Member Posts: 4,097

    Adept is difficult, but have you tried getting Evil Incarnate?

    It is infuriating.

  • theArashitheArashi Member Posts: 993

    Adept on survivor is EXACT SAME THING since the game released.

    Adept on killer is tied to win conditions that changes many times over the years and get more and more difficult as you rank up.

    Only reason it is like that is because devs don't give a crap about achievements unless there is actually no way to get them as in them being bugged. If you already got to red ranks, good luck getting actual perfect game with killer you are just learning.

    Just keep playing with 3 terrible perks and hope for [BAD WORD] survivors that won't dc.

  • HelloAgainMrHelloAgainMr Member Posts: 29

    I have adept on half the killer roster at the moment except for Hag. It really comes down to good use of add-ons. I was doing terrible at getting it as PH but when I used his Hemmorage on Torment add-on I got it immediately.


    It's also really important to let the game go on for a bit and not camp. The point deduction for heals is negligible so it's often okay to let them get a few to allow for more chase time and hits.

    Getting Adept is daunting but you can do it!

  • hillbillyclaudmain69hillbillyclaudmain69 Member Posts: 1,528
  • GreyBigfootGreyBigfoot Member Posts: 245
    edited October 2020

    I only have 10 Adept Killer achievements, and 5 of them are because I used an indoor map offering because those tend to be worse for survivors especially at lower ranks. And one of them was from when crossplay was enabled, leading to poor matchups (I feel a little guilty for that one)

    They should definitely be less than a double pip required, especially as that scales with rank. Maybe a 4K with only hooks, just to prevent mori cheese.

  • XyvieliaXyvielia Member Posts: 1,542
  • OldHunterLightOldHunterLight Member Posts: 1,894

    From someone that almost had the platinum on ps4 and currently is doing all achievements on pc, yes.

    The problem is that you either choose the map and survivors dc or a random map and you get rushed.

    But try this from someone who has done the adepts from then and from now, tunnel 1 asap, play with the rest until you feel like it's done, if it's a 1 shotter like Billy, Bubba, Myers, Oni, don't use their power as much example, down them with 2 M1s instead of 1 shot down, it is hard because it will make you look like a bad killer but you gotta do what you gotta do.

  • CarlosyluCarlosylu Member Posts: 2,864
  • KoloniteKolonite Member Posts: 1,346

    There are definitely some killers that have a very tough time lol

  • TodgeweihtTodgeweiht Member Posts: 3,535

    Oh god this, I wanted to rip my hair off more than once in the 2 weeks it took me to get her adept, I regret not getting her adept before she got nerfed.

  • JHondoJHondo Member Posts: 609

    I've been working through them myself, only have Plague, Demogorgon, Deathslinger, Pyramid Head, and Blight left to go.

    Honestly the best way is to run the best add-ons you have and go for the 9 hook 4k to get Iri Devout Emblem and get one player out as quickly as possible. I'm not saying to hard tunnel but for one Survivor, don't play with your food and actually be merciless.

    Another thing that helps immensely is to avoid camping at all costs, staying near a hooked Survivor destroys the chaser emblem.

    With the recent changes to Gatekeeper you just have to draw the match out to ~9 minutes but not allow the gates to be opened and you're guaranteed an Iri Emblems there.

    For me the hardest emblem to guarantee a good score in is the one that loses points every time Survivors heal but I found the best way to counter that is to return to the hook as soon as the unhook happens to get a slug or spread damage more and keep them from healing under hook.

  • gatsbygatsby Member Posts: 1,627

    The biggest issue with Adept is that you need to play "fair" on Killer to get it. So Killer's that generally slug, commonly make people DC or usually camp really struggle.

    Hag is probably the best example. Winning with her without camping, slugging or making people DC is almost impossible.

  • GoodBoyKaruGoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 6,449

    Actully with Billy and Bubba, especially Bubba, use Speed Limiter. They don't expect it, you can get easy double hits on someone, and the emblem system just nuts over it.

  • BioXBioX Member Posts: 652

    Then you reaaally dont know how to play hag...should watch otz some when he plays hag.

    At OP, the only problem is that survivors have to play ball and especially now with no DC penalty that is rather difficult.

    At the same time you are forced to play in a way that is kinda more fun then usually for survivors, making sure you hook everyone but also making sure you dont do it too fast or effectively so they just forget about gens and hide all match waiting for the other to die.


    Personally I have no issue with how adept works for killer, I do think tis way too ez for survivor to get adept, its just worth so little, if there was some emblem requirement there I would be ok with it.

  • Dwight_FairfieldDwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 3,907

    I have all the killer adepts. But I got the majority of them back when all you had to do was get a 4k.

    The thoughts of doing adept Nurse on PS4 with a double pip is nightmare fuel.

  • musefanmusefan Member Posts: 345

    I have them all so I can't complain too much, but I do agree they can be difficult and often require a bit of luck with the matchmaking.

    I think it's important to focus on them as soon as a new killer is released and get them out the way. New killers tend to start off pretty powerful and then get nerfed at some point (usually just in time to make you want the next new "temporary OP killer").

  • robotronrobotron Member Posts: 28

    Did some adepts today. Had one nail biting game with clown were I was sent to Ormond but got 11 hooks with a 4k and no gate open but failed because I was a couple of seconds short/few points short in chaser and got a gold.... Then had a same situation with plague but had a 12 hook 4k game aaannnnddddd survivors used the fountains too much and I got a silver... I just try to turn my brain off for these because they can't be taken seriously.

  • DabihwowDabihwow Member Posts: 1,944

    As someone who has tried a lot to get the adept here is what I'll say. It is a literal pain in the ass. Survivors have it much easier to get adepts, because there isn't a whole lot for them to do. For killer its much different. I've for Adapt, CLown, Pyramid Head, Pig, Ghostface, Bubba, and demo, yeah they aren't easy.

  • ToybasherToybasher Member Posts: 786
    edited October 2020

    The worst part IMHO is how Malicious gives you points for HITTING and not actually "Damaging health states" on survivors, but you still lose points for survivors being healed.


    This means for example as Plague if you're using your vomit a lot you get very little emblem score in Malicious. If you're Myers and you insta-down someone with EW3, taking them from healthy to dying (Still 1 hit, so 1 point) and slug them, and someone heals them to healthy (-2 points) that's a net loss of 1 point.


    Basically Plague and Insta-down killers have a harder time getting a high maliicous emblem which makes the adepts difficult, even if you 4K.


    Likewise Legion is very good at getting an iri malicious emblem from all the frenzy hits he's inflicting.


    I bring this up because to adept as killer now, you need a double pip. At high ranks the requirements to double pip are higher making the adepts unnecessarily difficult even if you 4K.

    To wit, it's possible to 4K as plague (Well, last one bled out) and depip.

  • NekoGamerXNekoGamerX Member Posts: 3,617

    funny I did her but before the rework wasn't hard.

    does need to go by 4k.

  • Dead_by_GadflyDead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,774

    No no no. Ive been assured by several survivors that killer is really easy with no perks at all, so with addpt you have 3 perks. Get gud ez

  • riotangelriotangel Member Posts: 176

    I'm not a good killer (since I gave up playing them regularly), but there will be matches where everything just falls into place nicely, so just keep at it.

  • HoodiedHoodied Member Posts: 10,895

    The easiest way to make killer adepts on par with survivor adepts is either have survivors double pip to get adept or have killers get either a 3k or 4k


    Both are "win" conditions

  • FrekiFreki Member Posts: 1,772

    the key is not what "win" condition is given but the result at the end of the game "entitny displeased/brutal killer" etc. you must get a merciless killer which basically is a double pip. and in the red ranks only way to do that is to get 4 iri's. in lower ranks you can get a gold or two and STILL get a double pip that gives you merciless killer. what needs to be changed is how that is determined with the emblem system before merciless killer was given for a 4k but emblems took that over

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