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Devs, do you really want 2k/2 escapes on average?

Do you really think average kill rate is 2k? I have more than 3.000 hours and with undying and the new maps killer is easy as hell. If you slug for the 4k is 4k every game.


  • TicTacTicTac Member Posts: 728

    Yh of course bc you play against survivor with a fraction of your hours and most of them are no tryhards.

    When its so easy, play tournaments.

  • valvarez4valvarez4 Member Posts: 457

    Well, I play to have fun, I don't play tournaments. And is so easy as killer

  • CountVampyrCountVampyr Member Posts: 636

    This is the typical reaction of somebody that believes that their experiences are the same as everybody else everywhere. If it’s snowing here then obviously climate change is a myth. If all of my friends are voting for candidate A then it is impossible for him to lose. You, my friend, are just one person among millions. You may get 4K every round but there are plenty that are getting 0K every round to average everything out.

  • PhasmamainPhasmamain Member Posts: 1,676

    I get consistent 4ks with clown but I play against mostly green ranks

  • YamaokaYamaoka Member Posts: 3,654

    Had 1 or 2 x 0ks during the past days. Got mostly 1-2 kills (with many hooks, no 1-hook kills) with occasional strong 3k matches against "gen aggressive" meta survivors.

    However I realize I could probably consistently 4k if I used Ruin/Undying/Tinkerer and/or tunneled/camped/slugged regularly.

    I used to slug a lot but I just want to play the game in its "purest" form at the moment if that makes sense even if that means I'm gonna lose and depip here and there.

    I'm hovering around rank 3 as I my matches are such a mixed bag now using "fair gameplay" and little to no slowdown.

  • ShirokinukatsukamiShirokinukatsukami Member Posts: 1,433

    Fact of the matter is, skill in this game matters a lot. There's some luck involved but skill is the big decider. Killers more skilled than survivors will beat them most of the time. Survivors more skilled than killer will loop them and evade them most of the time. If enough survivors in the survivor team are skilled, they will beat the killer easily.

    But if you want to look the game at whole, you look at the big picture and that means overall kill rate stats. The last figure we got from BHVR was earlier this year I forget, April? The figures were around 70% kill rate (for everything, SWf and non-SWF, across all ranks). Last year in November it was around 60% as I recall.

    That means that either killers in general are more skilled than survivors, or survivor is just harder to put together because it needs teamwork and solo Q screws that over.

    It is probably a mix of both. Remember that on average a killer will play and get more practice in the game -- they are doing 4 times the work of any survivor every match. Much of the match time of a survivor is spent sitting in front of a gen. Killers actively search and chase the entire time. I have no doubt that killer players get more practice killing than a survivor of the same amount of play time.

    Regardless of the reason, that doesn't change the facts. The kill rate last official stat was signifcantly higher than the target 50%. I think that's a little out of whack, but all in all it's not that big a deal I have long made peace with getting my butt kicked in this game, and I mainly play Survivor Solo Q these days. The game has arguably gotten better for killers since that last statistic so who knows what the kill rate is now. We'll need to wait for BHVR's next official stats update.

    But I'm pretty sure it's not 2k/2escape.

  • YaiPaYaiPa Member Posts: 1,928

    no, saying that the balance should be at 2k/2 escapes it's just a fast thought of game balance: for how the killer role works, getting kills makes the game easier for you; hence, we should make clear WHEN it's balanced to kill 2 survivors, since killing 2 survivors at 3 gen, it's different than killing 2 survivor during EGC.

    also, getting 2k/2 escapes it's different from ranks to ranks, it's just silly pretending that this golden rule is valid across the entire community.

  • ZarathosZarathos Member Posts: 1,199

    So where to start

    A. Killer is easy? Ahmm yes if you run a meta build with the most powerful killers you will stomp 90% of the player base. Many of which will ne casuals.

    B. Your not going to get the same results with the weaker killers play wraith, clown not every killer plays well with hex ruin. Those that do tend to be naturally very strong.

    C. Playing for fun and runing hex ruin undying every game with no expermentation makes no sense. Not messing with surge, surveillance how about dragons grip. No expermemtation meanwhile im seeing survivor head on teams and bizare solidarity builds with autodidact.

    D. A signficiant number of players who recently joined dbd are console players they are several years behind vetrans in terms of experiance. So naturally like you i have been stomping my games. However i have been humbled once or twice by supposed "garbage console players".

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