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This event is poorly thought out and incredibly one-sided

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  • Bravo0413Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,398

    If the survivors have it easier that makes this even worse. That means people will hit 30 vials faster. Once they do, they will realize they can't get the bonus anymore unless their teammates harvest the plants and stop playing


    No longer getting the bonus is the only thing that the devs didnt think through... use a map.... gaps! Theres actually a reason to use the normally pointless/useless map... its all because theres a another objective.. let's be honest the reason why survivor mains dont care for this is because matches are now giving enough time for killers to have a moment to get their game going... but yet still I have matches (4 in a row) where 4 people are escaping and I don't SWF... but the killer still had enough time to get some plays in.. the game feels more complete this way.. now if they can implement objectives for everyday games itll feel even better

  • Dr_doom_j2Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 830
    shyguyy said:

    I don't understand what the issue is here? Why do so many killers have an issue with survivors being able to continue to harvest flowers (without getting extra vials) after their initial 30? Can survivors participate in the event for its entire duration too? Killers can continue to get their 5.5k point hooks after they get their initial 30 vials, so why cant survivors? Is it just that they are the other side? We can't all have an enjoyable time?

    Are you serious? You are legitimately acting like this isn't the first balanced event. You kniw what happened most other events? Killers got cucked by survivors, over and over. Body blocking event hooks, saboing event hooks, tricking the killer to farm with them then after getting theirs, running away from event hook areas. 

    It isn't so much the fact I think the way they handeled the BP for this event is fair, I don't think it's that fair. I think it's dumb you stop interacting once you have all 30, as if survivor side isn't meager enough in return. But the thing is, survivors are crying like they just lost their first born child to this event. The level of whine over matter here is gross. Most survivors aren't even bothering with the offering on ps4 which is really annoying. Just enjoy it and shut up or don't, it has almost no bearing on most games from what I've played, aside from the ones everyone wants to farm in.
  • Jack11803Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930
    edited October 2018

    This event is actually one sided on both sides.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,453
    OP, I assume you have killer vials already maxed out. Since it's so much easier than survivor vials. 
  • CetrenCetren Member Posts: 917
    shyguyy said:

    I don't understand what the issue is here? Why do so many killers have an issue with survivors being able to continue to harvest flowers (without getting extra vials) after their initial 30? Can survivors participate in the event for its entire duration too? Killers can continue to get their 5.5k point hooks after they get their initial 30 vials, so why cant survivors? Is it just that they are the other side? We can't all have an enjoyable time?

    Because then you're stealing nectar from survivors who still need it because you wanted a few bloodpoints, which is incredibly selfish and unnecessary for the event.
  • SleepyWilloSleepyWillo Member Posts: 678

    @Zagrid said:
    Stop complaining there are Halloween spoops to be had and bloodpoints to be farmed.

    Thats the problem. There isnt bloodpoints to be farmed if you play survivor after 30 vials. Survivors will just switch to killers and we'll have incredibly long queues!

  • se05239se05239 Member Posts: 3,920

    The worst thing about the killer vials is the wait time inbetween games.

  • Gunmech04Gunmech04 Member Posts: 77

    @Cetren said:
    shyguyy said:

    I don't understand what the issue is here? Why do so many killers have an issue with survivors being able to continue to harvest flowers (without getting extra vials) after their initial 30? Can survivors participate in the event for its entire duration too? Killers can continue to get their 5.5k point hooks after they get their initial 30 vials, so why cant survivors? Is it just that they are the other side? We can't all have an enjoyable time?

    Because then you're stealing nectar from survivors who still need it because you wanted a few bloodpoints, which is incredibly selfish and unnecessary for the event.

    Then once Killer's reach their 30 vials they shouldn't get anymore bloodpoints from the event hooks then.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,453
    Gunmech04 said:

    @Cetren said:
    shyguyy said:

    I don't understand what the issue is here? Why do so many killers have an issue with survivors being able to continue to harvest flowers (without getting extra vials) after their initial 30? Can survivors participate in the event for its entire duration too? Killers can continue to get their 5.5k point hooks after they get their initial 30 vials, so why cant survivors? Is it just that they are the other side? We can't all have an enjoyable time?

    Because then you're stealing nectar from survivors who still need it because you wanted a few bloodpoints, which is incredibly selfish and unnecessary for the event.

    Then once Killer's reach their 30 vials they shouldn't get anymore bloodpoints from the event hooks then.

    I take from your comment, that you haven't finished your killer vials.
    Maybe not even attempted. 
  • SelSel Member Posts: 77

    Lol what.. 30/30 since Saturday on Survivor, it's a lot less tedious than Killer.

  • Gunmech04Gunmech04 Member Posts: 77
    Tsulan said:
    Gunmech04 said:

    @Cetren said:
    shyguyy said:

    I don't understand what the issue is here? Why do so many killers have an issue with survivors being able to continue to harvest flowers (without getting extra vials) after their initial 30? Can survivors participate in the event for its entire duration too? Killers can continue to get their 5.5k point hooks after they get their initial 30 vials, so why cant survivors? Is it just that they are the other side? We can't all have an enjoyable time?

    Because then you're stealing nectar from survivors who still need it because you wanted a few bloodpoints, which is incredibly selfish and unnecessary for the event.

    Then once Killer's reach their 30 vials they shouldn't get anymore bloodpoints from the event hooks then.

    I take from your comment, that you haven't finished your killer vials.
    Maybe not even attempted. 
    What's so hard about it for Killers? You have nothing extra to do, just hooking people. That's it, no running around trying to find these stupid plants, no fighting with other Survivors for the plants. The event hooks cant be sabo'ed because Killers apparently threw a fit because we could sabo the previous ones. So tell me, what is so hard about this event for Killers? Hell you're even getting extra time to kill the Survivors because they are so busy fighting over the nectar that gens dont get done. 
  • MyNamePeteMyNamePete Member Posts: 749

    tHis eVEnt iS pOOrlY tHOughT oUT anD iNCrediBLY onE siDEd

  • MyNamePeteMyNamePete Member Posts: 749

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    @Gunmech04 You clearly haven't played as killer.

    That said, the fact that survs stop getting bonus BP is beyond moronic.

    Lmao true

  • wimlinwimlin Member Posts: 12

    People arguing the event isn't one sided why do you think the queue times on killers is 30 min? That alone should tell you something is majorly wrong with the event. I probably wont' do killer strictly because I don't want to wait 30 min for a match, but I think its [BAD WORD] to act like it isn't 1 sided. 90% of the matches I'm playing in result in no survivors escaping since event started. Prior to event I was escaping about half and at least 1 person escaped in around 80%. So the event clearly broke something. Now usually no gens even get done so the hatch isn't even an option. It's beyond broke and anyone who is actually playing a killer knows it as much as any survivor. It probably won't be born out in the stats the devs see though because there is a ton of farming going on where killers hook everyone twice then allow them all to escape. My guess would be that Devs will see a ton of either no escapes or 4 escapes and very few 1,2,3 escape matches.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,453
    Gunmech04 said:
    Tsulan said:
    Gunmech04 said:

    @Cetren said:
    shyguyy said:

    I don't understand what the issue is here? Why do so many killers have an issue with survivors being able to continue to harvest flowers (without getting extra vials) after their initial 30? Can survivors participate in the event for its entire duration too? Killers can continue to get their 5.5k point hooks after they get their initial 30 vials, so why cant survivors? Is it just that they are the other side? We can't all have an enjoyable time?

    Because then you're stealing nectar from survivors who still need it because you wanted a few bloodpoints, which is incredibly selfish and unnecessary for the event.

    Then once Killer's reach their 30 vials they shouldn't get anymore bloodpoints from the event hooks then.

    I take from your comment, that you haven't finished your killer vials.
    Maybe not even attempted. 
    What's so hard about it for Killers? You have nothing extra to do, just hooking people. That's it, no running around trying to find these stupid plants, no fighting with other Survivors for the plants. The event hooks cant be sabo'ed because Killers apparently threw a fit because we could sabo the previous ones. So tell me, what is so hard about this event for Killers? Hell you're even getting extra time to kill the Survivors because they are so busy fighting over the nectar that gens dont get done. 
    Why fight other survivors over the plants? You get 1 1/4 vial per plant. Doesn't matter if you harvest alone or if 4 survivors harvest the same plant. You ALWAYS get the same amount. 

    So you just confirmed that you haven't even tried to play killer. 
    Well only 30 vials for you then.
  • EightEight Member Posts: 513
    edited October 2018

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Most of the games I'm playing are resulting in survivors escaping, at least 2. The problem is I tend to be the only survivor interested in the damn cankers. Everyone else is just gen rushing.

    Really? Wow. I'm seeing the exact opposite.

    I even got 4K with an L1 Wraith yesterday because people ignored all the gens and were just looking for the cankers. AND I make it a rule not to hit people when they're harvesting (you wouldn't kick a homeless man up the arse when he's picking up a pound coin), but was still too easy to catch them wandering around looking for the things.

    BUT I'm not complaining. Harvesting as a survivor is getting a little tedious at this point, but overall I'm fine with the event. And I think the change of pace etc. is enjoyable.

    Edit: Also finding a few more people goofing around, which is fun. Just a shame about the ones who get some serum and then d/c.

  • FrenziedRoachFrenziedRoach Member Posts: 1,631

    First game as killer in the event.

    First 1/3'd of a vial was easy enough. But both hooks were on the same side of the map. And crazy enough, these hooks only work for one use. You can't reuse them

    Down a 3rd person... the remaining 2 hooks in the game are on the other side of the map.... well [BAD WORD] me. Normal hook it is then...

    Thankfully I was able to herd them to the last 2 hooks.

    I dunno man - seems to even out to me. Especially given we got a bunch of Killvivors cluttering up the cue times for us.

    Only thing we go the advantage on right now is the point generation - and it could be argued that's fair given we have no way at all to keep our addins between rounds other than the odd Black Ward.

  • SkemoooSkemooo Member Posts: 193

    @Cetren said:
    Please, I'm almost halfway done with my survivor vials, getting nectar as killer is a pain in the ass. 

    i second this.. i got a full vial playing survivor almost every game expect like 3 or so ..i collectd all 30.. now i have played like 10 killer games and im still at 6.. Killer is much harder since it takes 6 hooks to collect a vial and that too if survivors allow it. they will jjust run farther away form hook if u dont farm and die there so even with iron grasp and agitation i cant reach it.. so i have to yield and let tehm farm.. if do end up killeing of them early ther other 3 will just play very stealthy.. which is even more waste of time..

    Killer games do endup with a lotof bloodpoints at the end than survivors but it takes much longer to collect vials as killer.

  • SovererignKingSovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    @Tsulan @ZombieGenesis I’ll save you the trouble and tell you he doesn’t play Killer at all. He’s still spewing the same Survivor Bias crap on here as he does/did on the Steam Forums.
  • FrauZockinskyFrauZockinsky Member Posts: 29

    In my opinion the thread createor is hitting the nail on the head. A lot of people have their vials full already and its been 1 weekend. This event is supposed to run for 2 weeks. If survivors can't get anything out of their offerings anymore (or hardly anything if they're lucky) then they will at the very least stop playing offerings and a lot of them will switch to killer games. From what I'm seeing in streams, its hard to fill a killer lobby already. Think one week ahead. The problem will only get worse.

  • SpicybarbecueSpicybarbecue Member Posts: 183

    @Tru3_Chemistry said:

    @Cetren said:
    HiddenFee said:

    @Cetren said:

    Please, I'm almost halfway done with my survivor vials, getting nectar as killer is a pain in the ass. 

    You are ignoring the entirety of the post by saying this. He is trying to explain how once survivors fill all of their vials, they can no longer even harvest the plants for the points that the offering offers. There are currently 11 days left in the event, and every survivor that has their vial done can no longer participate in the ectra points that the offerings make available.

    You still get the points from completed as long as you burn the offering. Except you don't even have to do any of the work, just sit back and let the people who haven't done their nectar do the job for you. I fail to see how this is somehow more difficult than working your way to a bunch of sporadically spawned hooks, or sacrificing two perks slots to reach them at the cost of your abilities.

    So explain to me what happens when a full lobby of survivors who have already gotten their 30 vials play a game...

    why not play killer once you have your survivor vials done?

    ppl that 'main' either killer or survivor are the cancer of this game.

  • FrauZockinskyFrauZockinsky Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2018

    @Spicybarbecue said:

    why not play killer once you have your survivor vials done?

    ppl that 'main' either killer or survivor are the cancer of this game.

    It takes 4 times as many survivors than killers to fill lobbies. The more survs switch to killer (what they likely will) the longer it takes to fill lobbies. You rather wait around in lobbies than play the game?

  • TheDarkLycanTheDarkLycan Member Posts: 435
    Tbh killer is harder for me. As survivor I just fill up as much of the vial as possible then get killed and go on to the next match. However as killer it is a lot harder since the hooks never spawn near each other and when I do get to a hook normally a survivor will bodyblock and deny the hook
  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 10,208

    @Tru3_Chemistry said:
    It usually only takes me one game to fill my vial as killer. It takes 6 special hooks to fill a vial. Unless you get no offerings from the survivors, I don't see you possibly taking more than two games tops to fill it. Assuming you are a half decent killer

    It takes me roughly 2 minutes until I have my survivor phial full, then I suicide and continue.
    Not comparable to killer at all, that takes way longer

  • TheBeanTheBean Member Posts: 2,320

    Not sure if someone said this or not... Didn't read all the responses.

    Once you fill your vial you don't gain anymore bonus points for hooking survivors on event hooks.

    So once you fill all your vials... Will you still be able to fill vials?.. I don't think so. So you won't be able to get any more bonus points for hooking on event hooks once you fill all 30.

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