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Why would you ever play Trickster over Huntress or Deathslinger? In terms of power he is just worse

Claudette_BaguetteClaudette_Baguette Member Posts: 567
edited March 2021 in General Discussions

Trickster is in no situation better than huntress. Huntress only has to hit you one time and she gets a health state, Trickster has to hit you 8 times with his knives which takes a long time. He still takes long to wind up his knives and they can be evaded by running tightly just like hatchets.

If a survivor is far away his knives are useless because you can't hit them precisely because of unnecessary recoil, if a survivor is close you are much better off hitting them with a m1, it's way faster and more efficient. The only way his knives can be used is in an OPEN loop without obstacles, and still it takes a lot of time to get someone down, and they can evade, run to a safe loop and avoid line of sight.

Hatchets are just straight up better, in loops and in open field. I can't think of a single situation where Trickster is better.

People say "he is more forgiving" but is he really? In my opinion having so many knives doesn't make him easier to play because he has to hit you 8 times to injure and another 8 times to down you which takes just way longer than a hatchet hit.

Also, Deathslinger can end a chase MUCH quicker, and he has a built in crosshair if he is aiming. On loops you can spear them on an open gap and hit them afterwards, if you try to loop a Trickster, you have to have a really open loop, otherwise it takes forever to hit 8 times, and even then it takes way longer than Huntress or Deathslinger. You also get built in slowdown with deep wounds and you only need one little gap somewhere to injure someone, good luck hitting someone through a tiny gap 8 times as Trickster.

Furthermore, if you DON'T commit to a chase as Trickster you lose all your progress you made with your knives because they lose knives over time passively, they don't even have to pull them out themselves and waste time that way. It just happens normally. Spreading pressure is INSANELY HARD on him because of that.

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  • Claudette_BaguetteClaudette_Baguette Member Posts: 567

    What do you mean? Blight is insanely strong, especially on PTB with fixed hud, theres players like Ascension which dominate heavily with him (just watch his yt), he will be a A tier killer for sure, if not S tier tbh.

    Legion is still strong, his power is boring af but he can injure everyone easily and drag the game and eventually win. That's a strong power but it's just boring to play as/against. Tricksters power is just boring and bad.

  • WeenieDogWeenieDog Member Posts: 1,988
    edited March 2021

    New killer is a manlet, so he has a better chance doubling back on some rock loops compared to our hatchet goddess.

  • TheeclumsyNinjaTheeclumsyNinja Member Posts: 283

    Yea you have to keeping chasing 1 survivor to get value, and his power is just his ability but slightly faster and usually the survivor is gone or downed by the time you get to use his secondary power.

  • UnluckyXIIIUnluckyXIII Member Posts: 12

    Did Trickster touch you in a bad place or hurt you in a previous life?


    If people want to play and enjoy him what’s the big deal? He interesting and a different style of play to Huntress and that reflected in how his skills play and he operates in the trial... I can’t see what the issue is (don’t like him, don’t play him, simples)

  • UncleStabbyUncleStabby Member Posts: 837

    We've seen that his power has value at low-wall loops. If huntress was at one, she has to worry about janky hit boxes, hatchet arc, and survivor jukes, however, Trickster can just spam his knives (assuming he has plenty at that moment) while strafing side to side. I saw OhTofu damage AND down the same person with nothing but knives at one of these loops.

    BHVR needs to buff his power though. Main Event is just dumb, it doesnt last long and you cant really control when you use it. Its either use it NOW NOW NOW or lose it till the meter fills up again.

  • Karao_KeKarao_Ke Member Posts: 1,217

    He's one of those killers you play to have fun with rather than dominate with. Take Legion & Wraith for example. I see these two killers lose in 95% of my matches (red ranks) yet people still play them semi-often.

    At the end of the day, some people aren't as competitive as others and are willing to risk losing due to a weak kit as long as they have fun. He may look silly, but I cannot wait to play this guy despite his oh-so-obvious flaws.

  • DemonDaddyDemonDaddy Member Posts: 3,486

    Provided they don't nerf his ammo to oblivion, I think his upside is not being heavily penalized for missing. A good range killer for new players on any platform.

  • Claudette_BaguetteClaudette_Baguette Member Posts: 567

    His ammo is fine. I mean he could have 100 knives and that wouldn't change how bad his power is. Knives only work up close because of the spread and most of the time you should just hit them normally because that's faster.

  • Dizzy1096Dizzy1096 Member Posts: 918

    I actually found him kind of fun. I was really surprised. One survivor I know for a fact was decent because I went against them yesterday on the live servers, one was a potato. Not sure about the others. It would have been nice to test him further but these guys wanted a 3 minute gen rush and the endgame camp felt like it lasted longer than the main game. Handful of hooks all game, 3 kills at the end because they all wanted to play hero. BHVR will no doubt look at stats like that assume he's overperforming and give him a nerf after the ptb.

    He felt kind of relaxing. There's no real pressure to aim a perfect shot like there is with Huntress or Deathslinger and I think that's the intention behind this guy, he's the less powerful but easier to play ranged killer. It's not too hard to get hits at some loops which is actually an advantage he has other huntress and slinger.

  • WiiFitTrainerWiiFitTrainer Member Posts: 788
    edited March 2021

    Huntress is carried A LOT by the absurd hatchet hitboxes. The amount of hits you get by hitting the air beside survivors is unreal. From what im seeing on streams you need to actually aim decently to hit with knives, same with death slinger (granted sometimes the spear doesn't register as a hit when it visually does, but it's rarer than phantom hatchet hits).


    Also, who really cares? People play demo, clown, and wraith despite them being medium to low tier because they find them fun.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 10,618

    Why would anyone play any killer over Nurse? Once you learned/mastered her you will be unstoppable and it’s not THAT hard to learn her.

    but people have different preferences and playstyles.

    i was never able to learn Huntress or even get hits reliably, even after getting her adepts (farmed the long-range ones), i will never touch her again. I just played one match as Trickster, had fun and got multiple hits/downs and 2 kills. And I didn’t even know about Main Event, which could probably have helped.

    and no? Not everything in this game is about being a rank 1 killer only going against 4 man sweat-squads. I don’t need to perform good against that.

  • DemonDaddyDemonDaddy Member Posts: 3,486

    @Claudette_Baguette

    More time has changed my thoughts. I was giving him to much respect as survivor and now see it was unwarranted. Playing against the Power is very forgiving in regression and he suffers from distance despite the long range. Definitely see performance suffering after the devs tone him down.

  • Claudette_BaguetteClaudette_Baguette Member Posts: 567

    Also, deathslinger can end a chase also MUCH quicker, and he has a built in crosshair if he is aiming. On loops you can spear them on an open gap and hit them afterwards, if you try to loop a Trickster, you have to have a really open loop, otherwise it takes forever to hit 8 times, and even then it takes way longer than Huntress or Deathslinger.

  • PhasmamainPhasmamain Member Posts: 9,978

    Why play anyone but nurse?

  • Claudette_BaguetteClaudette_Baguette Member Posts: 567

    Dumb argument imo. Not every killer needs to be on nurse level, but they HAVE to be decent. Right now, trickster is on the very bottom of the tier list.

    Also, playing one killer repetitively gets boring. I played nurse last week for a good while and got bored as well. And good teams can still counter a nurse, especially with dead hard, ds, and other second chance perks and on a bad map for her.

  • AChaoticKillerAChaoticKiller Member Posts: 3,104

    If you can't aim you play the trickster and that is if you SEVERLY can't aim as plague is actually better than him as well.

    The way you play against him is very much like you would play against a plague mixed with deathslinger, a good trickster WILL down you but a good deathslinger will do it much quicker and plague just has more pressure and other things going for her.

  • AlsoArrowAlsoArrow Member Posts: 344

    I personally like the addition of recoil. It'll mean that you learn to constantly aim and move around instead of just aiming in the exact same place and just constantly hitting the survivor.

  • AlsoArrowAlsoArrow Member Posts: 344

    I think I'd be more inclined to play the Trickster over the Deathslinger because I like the idea of his power more and am not a big fan of playing Deathslinger.

  • pandorayrpandorayr Member Posts: 540

    The new killer has too weak power if u compared him with Huntress or Gunsliger I don't see any need to play it.

    Short answer: I will keep playing Huntress.

  • PhasmamainPhasmamain Member Posts: 9,978

    But people have fun with trickster because he’s different

  • Claudette_BaguetteClaudette_Baguette Member Posts: 567

    I'm strictly talking about his power in this thread, it's literally in the title "in terms of power...". Yeah he looks nice and if you want to play him for his looks go for it, but in terms of power he is the worst killer right now.

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