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Let's talk about Amanda (The Pig)

SasukeKunSasukeKun Member Posts: 663
edited June 2018 in General Discussions

I find her really unbalanced.

More and more people have been picking her up which is nice. However the way that she plays is just so frustrating, most will just tunnel you even with a helmet on, if she runs toxin then you can't sprint burst. Her lunge has the same reach of Michael's Tier 3 lunge by DEFAULT(seemingly), She get's to choose when to have a terror radius which most will use to just camp. Her Ambush lunge lasts way to long for the fairness of some level's environments. It's also hard to blind her because i haven't found a proper spot other than just aiming for her head which has worked sometimes. Lastly with the vacuum getting removed from pallets her lunge makes it almost a constant thing of stunning her and also getting downed.

She's also very weak in some aspects which forces people to play her a certain way rather than make it the intended "game", Her helmet's default timer is disgustingly long even with the add on IMO, So of course it gives you a reason to tunnel because the helmet alone just Isn't a threat for the most part i find. When she crouches it can be very hard to see on some maps.

Overall i just think she needs tweaking and to get her out of this "one way to win" game play style she has because of the state she's in. If you try and have some fun you can easily get bullied and lose almost all the survivors.

Let me know what you people think, I've tried to have an opinion both playing her and going against her

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  • NickNick Member Posts: 760

    Her normal lunge is ridiculous, yesterday i was playing the Pig and I downed someone without actually connecting my knife, almost looked like a teleport.
    But I dont agree on "Her ambush lunge lasts way too long" Do people really use the ambush? I use it at unsafe pallets sometimes but the "roar" at the start of the ambush makes it unusable vs higher ranks

  • GlossedGlossed Member Posts: 48

    I can agree with @Nick and @SasukeKun That her lunge is very far, but in all fairness she is kinda just a normal killer if you think about it. I see what you mean about her ambush attack but if you actually think it is pretty easy to dodge (my opinion). The Reverse Bear Trap has a timer of 2 Min 30 Secs. If you think about the jigsaw boxes as a Hex perk and you hope it is in a rather good spot, If all the boxes are far away then the trap can be super effective. I get what you mean about the tunnel but normally if I verse a pig they only tunnel when my trap is not activated. If it is activated then there really is no point because the timer on the trap stops ticking when in a chase or downed/Dying. So in my opinion I think the pig is a rather average killer.

  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 165

    She need a buff, in rank 1 we just destroy her 4 traps ez pizi, so is nearly usseless

  • BradyBrady Member Posts: 1,330
    edited June 2018

    Everything is fine but her lunge. Given all that she does, she doesn't deserve such a vastly long lunge. Still, ez 360s here and there.

    She is actually one of the most balanced Killers in the game, I'd say right below The Nurse and The Hillbilly.

  • SasukeKunSasukeKun Member Posts: 663

    @Brady said:
    Everything is fine but her lunge. Given all that she does, she doesn't deserve such a vastly long lunge. Still, ez 360s here and there.

    She is actually one of the most balanced Killers in the game, I'd say right below The Nurse and The Hillbilly.

    I would like a lesson on how to 360 her because i have run into many encounters as to where anything i try her swing is very wide and long. I will get hit when I'm practically on the other the side of a pallet, Let me mention again that because her lunge is pretty buggy and IMO way to long with the new pallet throw downs, she has a very easy time downing a survivor while taking the stun over others

  • FrenziedRoachFrenziedRoach Member Posts: 1,630

    The long timer is the result of them including maps like the Pale Rose and Asylum which are so enormous, any timer shorter would pretty much bone any survivor who had to search for a 4th box. I think it would benefit many of us if they would just size down both of those maps a not only because of that timer, but I'm sure most of us agree those maps are waaaaay to large. (they should at least set up the timer time to be map dependent IMO)

    I'm kinda surprised anybody is complaining about the ambush to be honest. Walking around crouched is terrible for your area awareness and hampers your mobility to the point it nullifies your map pressure. Not to mention that Sprint Burst more or less counters the ambush unless you are completely asleep at the wheel.

    The true purpose of the traps is just to keep them off gens for a period of time - to buy you more time to get things done. The 30 seconds they spend on that box is 30 seconds a gen isn't done. assuming they all get the first guess right, that's 2 minutes you've taken people off a gen. If you do the math, you've effectively given yourself more than 1 extra gen if you manage to use all 4 of your traps (and it's often longer given travel time or bad guesses)

    Not saying she's the greatest thing since bacon, but she's a solid mid-tier pick that's no-where near OP and not suffering nearly as bad as the worst killers.

    I find her to be one of the least annoying killers to go up against. And as a killer main that uses her as my main secondary pick, I do not feel she makes me tunnel any more or any less than usual.

  • GT_Legend2GT_Legend2 Member Posts: 845

    I hunk people are confused about her lunge because her hidden blade is so short compared to the other killers, making seem like she has an absurdly long lunge. I play the pig often and the lunge feels like any other killer to me.

  • iOrangeStainiOrangeStain Member Posts: 81

    As a Pig main, her power does me wonders, honestly. I played 10 games with her and recorded my results:
    8 / 40 reverse bear trap kills.
    21 / 40 sacrifices.
    3 / 40 mori's.
    8 / 40 escaped.

    27 ambush attacks, 12 of which downed survivors.

    I think she's pretty good.

  • SasukeKunSasukeKun Member Posts: 663

    @SaltyKiller said:

    @SasukeKun said:
    I find her really unbalanced.

    And I stopped reading right there. Surely, I can't be the only one.

    Just goes to show no matter how nice you try to be someone has to be like this

  • PhantomMask20763PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,182

    I'm a pig main and I normally go for someone without a trap however if the person with the trap is the only one around it if I see them on a box I'll down them and hook them itll just give me more time as for the lunge she's just shorter than the other killers making it feel like a long lunge when it's not, same thing with freddy too everyone says he has a long lunge but hes just short ya know

  • BradyBrady Member Posts: 1,330
    edited June 2018

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    I'm a pig main and I normally go for someone without a trap however if the person with the trap is the only one around it if I see them on a box I'll down them and hook them itll just give me more time as for the lunge she's just shorter than the other killers making it feel like a long lunge when it's not, same thing with freddy too everyone says he has a long lunge but hes just short ya know

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

  • HeroLivesHeroLives Member Posts: 1,710
    As much as I hate playing against the pig Bc of the way people play her ;she’s a stealth killer. Every killer is different. I think a lot of peoole seem to ignore the fact that each killer has their own style. They are all different. If you don’t play to her advantages as a killer you’re not going to have a good time. It should be harder to blind her she has a huge mask on. 

    Also the reverse bear traps are hard enough to get off assuming you don’t get recaptured and hooked again before you can get it off or the timer runs out Bc on a larger map it’s difficult especially with an observant killer. By this I mean if you have a lot of survivors running around trying to get bear traps off you can bet they are going to be at the boxes trying to get them off. As soon as someone completes a generator the timer starts on the trap. Trying to be one step ahead of your opponent and think what would I do if I were a survivor and that will help you out a lot. If you play to a killers advantages and pick a killer that fits your play style then you will have a lot more fun. 


    I think that a lot of people try to play killers to things that aren’t the killers strengths , and I like solving problems so maybe an item in a killers bloodwed(you could make it a rare item) would be that you could swap powers for a single trial with another killer and use their perks/play style to the character that you aesthetically like but it be to their “origin” 

    example lets say you are playing the Freddy but you hate the way the dream world gets entered you use the doctors power of “shock treatment” but instead of shock it’s the dream world but it activates the same way. 

    Or or you like the pigs crouching stealth but you love Michael Myers you could opt to swap and instead of stalking and going evil within then you could crouch and ambush instead. 

    Like I said it would have to be an unlockable through blood web that you could use every now and then otherwise the survivors would just be completely f’d up all the time. Because as a survivor you rely on knowing how a killer operates to be able to try and counter. 

    I think it would shake things up a bit. 
  • bevdog67bevdog67 Member Posts: 57

    She is an interesting killer. Her skill cap is higher than people think, as there is a lot of mindgame, strategy, and devious trickyness you can pull off with her. I do not think she is OP at all, but I don't think she really needs a buff either. If I changed her in any way, I would give her more interesting add-ons, but thats it.

  • LarczLarcz Member Posts: 531

    Pig need QoL in my opinion like he can interupt actions surv when he crouch like when surv reperair gen he can grab him.Also he need later this sound when he atack becose all surv use just SB and bb pig we start loop again.Traps is just a little addon for pig not a some very good power.Just buy your time some times.DOn't have potential to killa at all when surv from start game see all jigsaw box.

  • FrenziedRoachFrenziedRoach Member Posts: 1,630

    @Brady said:

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

    It's probably more likely it has to do with their swing animation. Every other killer more or less swings straight down. Freddy and Amanda swing diagonal or sideways. I'm not certain if that plays into hit detection through windows, but it's an interesting difference to note.

    I'm a Doc main myself, and I've noticed I don't have issues hitting through windows. From what I can tell, it has more to do with when you start your lunge. Lunge too close or too far to the right or left, you hit the window. Hit the window straight at the middle with the right distance, you'll get the survivor at ridiculous differences that make even the killer blink.

  • SasukeKunSasukeKun Member Posts: 663

    @FrenziedRoach said:

    @Brady said:

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

    It's probably more likely it has to do with their swing animation. Every other killer more or less swings straight down. Freddy and Amanda swing diagonal or sideways. I'm not certain if that plays into hit detection through windows, but it's an interesting difference to note.

    I'm a Doc main myself, and I've noticed I don't have issues hitting through windows. From what I can tell, it has more to do with when you start your lunge. Lunge too close or too far to the right or left, you hit the window. Hit the window straight at the middle with the right distance, you'll get the survivor at ridiculous differences that make even the killer blink.

    I played some games yesterday and watched from hanging on a hook her swing and she doesn't even make contact with her knife and was still just hitting people. All other thing's aside one of the main issues i have with her is her lunge. You can't just expect perfect MS with every killer on top of it all and her swing is really ridiculous. Small compared to others or not she will hit you from the other side of a window, and hit you through pallets. I'm all for having her be a threat but there's a lot of things about her that don't really make sense

  • RuniverRuniver Member Posts: 2,095

    @Brady said:

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    I'm a pig main and I normally go for someone without a trap however if the person with the trap is the only one around it if I see them on a box I'll down them and hook them itll just give me more time as for the lunge she's just shorter than the other killers making it feel like a long lunge when it's not, same thing with freddy too everyone says he has a long lunge but hes just short ya know

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

    The cones are the exact same for all killers. No exception.
    The range is eventually different, due the fact it's tied to movement speed.

    You guys are just spreading myths, because your perception is wrong due to the fact you play against smaller killers.

  • SasukeKunSasukeKun Member Posts: 663

    @Runiver said:

    @Brady said:

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    I'm a pig main and I normally go for someone without a trap however if the person with the trap is the only one around it if I see them on a box I'll down them and hook them itll just give me more time as for the lunge she's just shorter than the other killers making it feel like a long lunge when it's not, same thing with freddy too everyone says he has a long lunge but hes just short ya know

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

    The cones are the exact same for all killers. No exception.
    The range is eventually different, due the fact it's tied to movement speed.

    You guys are just spreading myths, because your perception is wrong due to the fact you play against smaller killers.

    Guess some of us just need to start posting footage then if you really think we'd waste time like that

  • RuniverRuniver Member Posts: 2,095

    @SasukeKun said:

    @Runiver said:

    @Brady said:

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    I'm a pig main and I normally go for someone without a trap however if the person with the trap is the only one around it if I see them on a box I'll down them and hook them itll just give me more time as for the lunge she's just shorter than the other killers making it feel like a long lunge when it's not, same thing with freddy too everyone says he has a long lunge but hes just short ya know

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

    The cones are the exact same for all killers. No exception.
    The range is eventually different, due the fact it's tied to movement speed.

    You guys are just spreading myths, because your perception is wrong due to the fact you play against smaller killers.

    Guess some of us just need to start posting footage then if you really think we'd waste time like that

    Go on.
    I go all these killers P3, and play since day 1. I play mostly Billy, and I played Pig extensively these last months.
    There's not a single difference between the two lunges.
    But sure, prove me wrong if you can, I'll watch it.

  • SasukeKunSasukeKun Member Posts: 663

    @Runiver said:

    @SasukeKun said:

    @Runiver said:

    @Brady said:

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    I'm a pig main and I normally go for someone without a trap however if the person with the trap is the only one around it if I see them on a box I'll down them and hook them itll just give me more time as for the lunge she's just shorter than the other killers making it feel like a long lunge when it's not, same thing with freddy too everyone says he has a long lunge but hes just short ya know

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

    The cones are the exact same for all killers. No exception.
    The range is eventually different, due the fact it's tied to movement speed.

    You guys are just spreading myths, because your perception is wrong due to the fact you play against smaller killers.

    Guess some of us just need to start posting footage then if you really think we'd waste time like that

    Go on.
    I go all these killers P3, and play since day 1. I play mostly Billy, and I played Pig extensively these last months.
    There's not a single difference between the two lunges.
    But sure, prove me wrong if you can, I'll watch it.

    I wish i had the footage of yesterday watching her finish the swing animation and then it hits anyway ??? like what? It's not 100% on The Pig either, Killers now have the luxury of taking many stuns but still getting the hit. I've watched Amanda/Lface swing as i throw it down and teleport to the other side then teleport back. Sure i'll start filming for the future it would be fun to reminisce if i catch something spicy

  • RuniverRuniver Member Posts: 2,095

    @SasukeKun said:

    @Runiver said:

    @SasukeKun said:

    @Runiver said:

    @Brady said:

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    I'm a pig main and I normally go for someone without a trap however if the person with the trap is the only one around it if I see them on a box I'll down them and hook them itll just give me more time as for the lunge she's just shorter than the other killers making it feel like a long lunge when it's not, same thing with freddy too everyone says he has a long lunge but hes just short ya know

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

    The cones are the exact same for all killers. No exception.
    The range is eventually different, due the fact it's tied to movement speed.

    You guys are just spreading myths, because your perception is wrong due to the fact you play against smaller killers.

    Guess some of us just need to start posting footage then if you really think we'd waste time like that

    Go on.
    I go all these killers P3, and play since day 1. I play mostly Billy, and I played Pig extensively these last months.
    There's not a single difference between the two lunges.
    But sure, prove me wrong if you can, I'll watch it.

    I wish i had the footage of yesterday watching her finish the swing animation and then it hits anyway ??? like what? It's not 100% on The Pig either, Killers now have the luxury of taking many stuns but still getting the hit. I've watched Amanda/Lface swing as i throw it down and teleport to the other side then teleport back. Sure i'll start filming for the future it would be fun to reminisce if i catch something spicy

    It has always been the case. If you drop too late, you get hit.
    It was also like that pre-vacuum, except the vacuum made the survivors to "snap".
    Also, this is a completely different topic than the "different lunge of Pig/Freddy", taht suddendly turned into "Leatherface" and added him in the list for some reasons.
    All killers do have the same lunge except for slower ones. Learn to deal with it, that's just basic game mecanics.

  • FrenziedRoachFrenziedRoach Member Posts: 1,630

    What you are experiencing is both by her shorter stature and her shorter weapon. This is something I've had to explain to a co-worker again and again regarding The Pig.

    If she and Freddy's weapons were actually longer and they weren't so short, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    Only way I can think of that they could fix this would be to lower their cones but increase their lunge range so it "looks" right. but I'm not sure anybody is keen on that idea.

  • SasukeKunSasukeKun Member Posts: 663

    @Runiver said:

    @SasukeKun said:

    @Runiver said:

    @SasukeKun said:

    @Runiver said:

    @Brady said:

    @PhantomMask20763 said:
    I'm a pig main and I normally go for someone without a trap however if the person with the trap is the only one around it if I see them on a box I'll down them and hook them itll just give me more time as for the lunge she's just shorter than the other killers making it feel like a long lunge when it's not, same thing with freddy too everyone says he has a long lunge but hes just short ya know

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

    The cones are the exact same for all killers. No exception.
    The range is eventually different, due the fact it's tied to movement speed.

    You guys are just spreading myths, because your perception is wrong due to the fact you play against smaller killers.

    Guess some of us just need to start posting footage then if you really think we'd waste time like that

    Go on.
    I go all these killers P3, and play since day 1. I play mostly Billy, and I played Pig extensively these last months.
    There's not a single difference between the two lunges.
    But sure, prove me wrong if you can, I'll watch it.

    I wish i had the footage of yesterday watching her finish the swing animation and then it hits anyway ??? like what? It's not 100% on The Pig either, Killers now have the luxury of taking many stuns but still getting the hit. I've watched Amanda/Lface swing as i throw it down and teleport to the other side then teleport back. Sure i'll start filming for the future it would be fun to reminisce if i catch something spicy

    It has always been the case. If you drop too late, you get hit.
    It was also like that pre-vacuum, except the vacuum made the survivors to "snap".
    Also, this is a completely different topic than the "different lunge of Pig/Freddy", taht suddendly turned into "Leatherface" and added him in the list for some reasons.
    All killers do have the same lunge except for slower ones. Learn to deal with it, that's just basic game mecanics.

    I'm all about fairness, and i play both sides, i only brought up another killer because of a certain scenario.

  • Dabrownman1812Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,804
    Brady said:

    Everything is fine but her lunge. Given all that she does, she doesn't deserve such a vastly long lunge. Still, ez 360s here and there.

    She is actually one of the most balanced Killers in the game, I'd say right below The Nurse and The Hillbilly.

    Nurse balanced? Billy balanced? Whoa hold on lol
  • Dabrownman1812Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,804
    SasukeKun said:

    @FrenziedRoach said:

    @Brady said:

    Prove me wrong if I am, but I think the hit-cone for The Pig and Freddy are actually bigger. It's not the lunge itself, but the actual cone.

    What is the cone to-say? Well, because of the lovely peer-to-peer servers and hitboxes being total crap in this game, the devs implemented a cone for the killers basic attack. Meaning, if you're inside of this cone when they attack is initiated, it will count as a hit.

    Opinionated, but for some reason, The Pig and Freddy are always able to hit outside of a window MUCH FURTHER than The Nurse or Trapper. I'm always hit after a vault and downed with these characters, evidently if they were another Killer I wouldn't of because of the cone. They would've hit the wall of the window. It's frustrating and annoying, you should only be able to hit mid-vault, not after when the vault has been performed. It seems like the opportunity is only given to The Pig or Freddy unless you're just standing directly infront of the window.

    It's probably more likely it has to do with their swing animation. Every other killer more or less swings straight down. Freddy and Amanda swing diagonal or sideways. I'm not certain if that plays into hit detection through windows, but it's an interesting difference to note.

    I'm a Doc main myself, and I've noticed I don't have issues hitting through windows. From what I can tell, it has more to do with when you start your lunge. Lunge too close or too far to the right or left, you hit the window. Hit the window straight at the middle with the right distance, you'll get the survivor at ridiculous differences that make even the killer blink.

    I played some games yesterday and watched from hanging on a hook her swing and she doesn't even make contact with her knife and was still just hitting people. All other thing's aside one of the main issues i have with her is her lunge. You can't just expect perfect MS with every killer on top of it all and her swing is really ridiculous. Small compared to others or not she will hit you from the other side of a window, and hit you through pallets. I'm all for having her be a threat but there's a lot of things about her that don't really make sense

    The hit cone for most killers at base level are the same. It's not where the weapon is, there's a cone so killere with shorter weapons can have same lunge.
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