Tunnel and camp
rickyray101
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Camp and tunnel is all killers do now. Something needs to be done to discourage this gameplay or else this game is finished. Players should not pip up in rank if that's all that they are doing. Devs go back to the drawing board and fix it. Leatherface is the worst and with the new map layout you can't get away from him.
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Leather face is countered hard by windows and tunnelling is an issue they can’t really solve
The meta shift in killers does indeed seem to be towards high amounts of camping and tunneling. I know the game has shifted for survivors to the no heal gen rush meta as well, so we get another chicken and egg argument.
I watch a lot of streamers and you can see it in their games as well, when they play survivor. I don't see a lot of it from the top ranked killers that stream. It happens of course, but not as their main tactic. Not the purposeful, go into the game knowing you are tunneling, type of attitude.
This is where the game is at right now. And it is unfortunate. If you don't have god loopers on your team and those that pound gennys, well you probably lose. Especially as solo. But if you do, then the killers have no fun, they lose and.....well......is it the chicken or the egg's fault.
"Killer mains after 4.2.1 can't play. All they know is camp, tunnel, charge they phone, be bisexual, eat hot chip, and lie."
In earnest, I get where you're coming from. Outside of cases where camping the last survivor or accidental tunneling occurs, it does suck to feel punished for something out of your control.
Not all killers camp and tunnel. I usually don't camp or tunnel.
The times I do it is because of things like I have a challenge that requires a certain survivor(like the obsession). I will also camp and tunnel a survivor that is not doing anything except hiding in lockers or on the outer edge of the map though in that situation camping isn't always necessary as the survivors occasionally don't want to rescue them from the hook anyways.
I agree, that s..... ruin the game
no they can solve it very easily, they just don't want solve it
just stop the hook progression if killer is camping, very easy
they just don't want to do it, this game is broken mate
Devs tried that years ago. Survivors abused it by running the killer around the hook. Thats why we don´t have this mechanic in the game.
What did survivors expect?
Killers used Undying Ruin to apply pressure. They didn´t tunnel. They didn´t camp. Instead they injured as many survivors as possible and pushed them away from the gens.
Survivors didn´t like that playstyle, so Undying was nerfed hard. Now killers are back to camp&tunnel.
LOL, "Game is finished"
People have been saying that for going on 6 years now. You can just stop using that line because it's objectively not true.
That being said, you cannot expect killers to not tunnel or camp anymore than killer's can't expect survivors to not rush out gens.
There's a very basic thing about this game many of you need to just understand and accept. Because death is removal from the rest of the map, the killer is going to have every reason to get you out of the game to get people off generators and buy himself time. That's the truth of it. There is nothing the devs can do to discourage this behavior unless they change this immutable fact. Best they can do is add perks that encourage killers to leave the hook in exchange for an advantage (Like BBQ and Chilli and Make Your Choice). They'd have to fundamentally change the core of the game to put a stop to tunneling and camping by introducing respawning.
Respawning exists in similar games - it's called "Last Year". You might want to go check that one out and tell us how that's working for them...
If that's the case if I need to chase an obsession I use the perk Nemesis so it shifts the obsession to another survivor. Camping and Tunneling screams to me that the killer sucks at this game. The killer already has it easy enough. They're only doing it to play dirty because they can get away with it.
Not all if us killers are trash. There are some of us that can get kills without camping and tunneling. Now, will I go away from the hook if you continue to run around it? Nope, I would be stupid to. You need to run away and I'll chase you. I'm not giving free hooks.
Game is not fun anymore. I am playing as killer and solo surv.
As killer i am not camping or tunnelling. With that cost i am losing gens. I still have 2k usually but games are really not fun. Because ending so fast. So that is forcing me use end game builds. That is just not fun.
As Solo survivor, game is terrible. Tunnelling, useless teammates, toxic killers bla bla bla. I always playing and saying myself, please one good game... But most of games are not fun. I think i will stop to play this game. Because full stresful and not fun anymore
Maybe they could fix the ability of blinding a killer by shining the flashlight at the side of his head
You are not wrong my friend.
Unfortunately, so many only main one side and don't know how to empathize towards the other side. So they ignore fun gameplay for self defined "wins" It is fair and just. They deserve to play as they wish.
But some of us walk a different path, drop the egos, and win or lose, play for fun. I hope to meet you in the fog OP....I thing whether teammates or opponents we would find the game fun.
As opposed to doing what?
Every time a Survivor makes this thread it's the same thing. They hate the Killer doing what works because they want to loop them half the game.
When I play Killer the absolute LAST thing I want to do is engage a Survivor in looping.
But again devsi s chasing away his fan base.
If killers that camp lost two pips every time they camped,they would go back to yellow ranks were they belong. I hate campers. There a waste of time and it takes forever to get ques for survivors at night.
It is easily preventable make it like make your choice were a killer can't come with so many meters of hook untill survivor is rescued.
But this game was not made for us ask your self why everytime another killer comes out they don't advertise the survivor . There always n the background we are here to be bullied and that's how behavior wants it.
It tends to depend on the speed of the generators. If 3 generators are done by the time I have a hook or two, with fast chases, then something's gotta give. I will camp, tunnel, and slug the crap out of your team to have an opportunity to play the game. Now, I don't go into every game ready to do these things at all times, it depends on the pacing of the match. Ideally, I'd like to give each survivor three hooks, but that's just not practical if they're pounding out generators faster than I can get to them.
I thought they added the free character Bill to anti tunneling
Lmao u wait forever to play as survivor but u still want to nerf killers, big brain
So... just had a game with a camping Legion and it was the strangest thing... he got zero kills.
BECAUSE WE DID THE ######### GENS
First hook, the other two people popped off 2 gens and I kept playing cat and mouse on the shed gen that was within sight of him. He kept pulling away from the hook to shoo me off and eventually had to feral frenzy me off.
By this time, the other two had gotten the teammate off the hook.
By the time he got his second hook, the rest of us were on one gen and we sacrificed a health state on the hooked player to finish a gen, open the door, heal up, then bum-rush the hook
Fucking stop whining and get good already.
BTW.... this was solo que.
With BT Dh ds combo tunneling a unhooked grants the killer lose. If u r actually good u will only blame the survivors r too bad to save u from hook. On average if every killer tunnel and camp u still have 3 out of 4 games which u get free escape, and if u bring BT u can safely save from the camper. I think u need to get good before u complain about the game, like being in rank 1 for like 10 times a row, then ur opinion will be more valid. Now I just think u r a noob
And if u say the camped people just suicide, then it's the hooked person's fault. I never Kobe 3 and let go when I play as survivor no matter what happens. Killing your self on hook is rewarding the camper
Survivors have long queues, because there are not enough killers around and your solution is to nerf and punish killers?
So what your saying is, you want to be able to hook bomb to your heart's content.
And imagine how abusable that would be.
In a chase? Just dip into that zone and the killer can't chase you. Self care to your heart's content and then save the person. That's stupid.
Also camping for last survivor who you hooked fairly is ok in egc, but if they camp before that then it's pretty #########. Tunneling I don't agree that it's ######### but that's just me.
Thank you, i hope too. Sometimes i have good games, that is why i am still staying in game. Yesterday i saw one Felix, he has useless teammates. He played well and made me busy for 3 gens. Then i get him down. And after him other survivors was easy, they just died so fast. I gave Felix hatch because he deserved that. After that i played one killer game too. This survivors were swf. And they tried to toxic tactics. And then they all died. Game was not fun, i felt mad because they just wanted destroy fun for me and they were salty in end game.
Stop hook progress while killer is around the hook and not in a chase?
We already have that as a survivor perk: Camaraderie.
Great perk to replace DS, since apparently DS will now be useless, if some users are to be believed.
Survivors should stop tunneling Gens then.
And please don't tell me thats their objective. They should spread out Gen Progress. Otherwise it's not fun. Devs should do something against it.
/s
Despite all the people claiming, that it will be useless. I highly doubt, that the number of DS users will decrease. Maybe some cocky streamers will stop using it, as they won´t be able to do their tricks with DS. But apart from that, business as usual. Since it will still protect against getting tunneled and still works great for late hook rescues.