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Two Killers. 8 Survivors. 10 gens.

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  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @katoptris said:
    Myers and doctor combo 

    Yes imagine a game offering from the Doctor with his best addons and then Myers with either Ebony and Scratched Mirror or Tombstone and Tuft.

  • HomesliceHomeslice Member Posts: 36

    but what if you could have two of the same killer? 8-)

  • AttackfrogAttackfrog Member Posts: 1,134
    powerbats said:

    @Attackfrog said:
    powerbats said:

    @Attackfrog said:

    Survivors are opposed because adding a second killer is the only thing that can effectively combat the swf scenarios we see now.

    So it will never happen.

    Your facts don't add up since quite a few of those opposed are killer mains so you might want to get your facts straight.

    It won't happen due to optimization issues on console and even then the connection would destroy console users. But yes go ahead and keep showing your bias against actual logic and facts I'm sure it'll get you far. 😜

    Typical survivor main spewing typical survivor rhetoric and oppressing the real killer mains once again! 

    Us true killer mains know exactly how we feel!

    Ah yes the typical Ad Hominem thrown in and as usual completely and utterly wrong. Killer main currently atm so yet again your argument falls flat on it's face. You just can't admit the idea isn't sound for a myriad of reasons so you resort to the classical and failed survivor main insult.

    It will never happen because it isn't feasible from any standpoint no matter how you try and argue with insults, facts will always shoot you down in FLAMES But keep up with the insults as i said I'm sure eventually you'll learn to accept those don't work here.

    You are using the word "insults" wrong. Perhaps take your own advice instead of "flaming" my posts and speak more directly to the topic.

     The idea is actually quite sound. The amount of people playing at one time in the OP is probably not realistic but 2 killers at one time would make for some great gameplay.

    Just because they don't have the backend work to make it happen doesn't mean people don't want it or that the idea is bad.

    If you can't see that there ARE people who want a KWF scenario, then you may need your eyes checked. I had a thread on it not too long ago (same old arguments against it) but there was genuine interest. There have also been other folks who have posted interest in this type of gameplay in other threads.

    I do notice a theme in your posts though: when a few individuals disagree with you, you tend take on the role of the "voice of the forums" and present a very elitist attitude in the words you chose, attacking the poster rather than the idea. Even when you make a credible argument, you discredit yourself by attacking the poster.

    You may forget, but the forums make up a VERY small and specific minority of players (for any game). Sometimes a majority belief in a forum is a minority of the players...or more importantly, potential customers.

    Tl;dr: There are definitely people who want to KWF. Just because it may not be technically feasible at the moment doesn't negate the genuine interest in this type of gameplay. Having two communicable killers is something I think many SWF mains are fearful of because it would be a serious obstacle for them.


  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Attackfrog said:

    Your facts don't add up since quite a few of those opposed are killer mains so you might want to get your facts straight.
    
    It won't happen due to optimization issues on console and even then the connection would destroy console users. But yes go ahead and keep showing your bias against actual logic and facts I'm sure it'll get you far. 😜
    
    
    
    **Typical survivor main spewing typical survivor rhetoric and oppressing the real killer mains once again! 
    
    Us true killer mains know exactly how we feel!
    

    **

    Ah yes the typical Ad Hominem thrown in and as usual completely and utterly wrong. Killer main currently atm so yet again your argument falls flat on it's face. You just can't admit the idea isn't sound for a myriad of reasons so you resort to the classical and failed survivor main insult.

    It will never happen because it isn't feasible from any standpoint no matter how you try and argue with insults, facts will always shoot you down in FLAMES But keep up with the insults as i said I'm sure eventually you'll learn to accept those don't work here.

    You are using the word "insults" wrong. Perhaps take your own advice instead of "flaming" my posts and speak more directly to the topic.

    Seems pretty clear you were trying to insult me with that bolded comment of yours above.

     The idea is actually quite sound. The amount of people playing at one time in the OP is probably not realistic but 2 killers at one time would make for some great gameplay.

    2 killers would make it more interesting but as stated repeatedly in ym post and others countless times it won't work due to all the reasons listed in this thread and the rest.

    Just because they don't have the backend work to make it happen doesn't mean people don't want it or that the idea is bad.

    The idea is bad because of all the factors that'd make it bad, those have been discussed ad nauseum, you just don't like the reasons.

    If you can't see that there ARE people who want a KWF scenario, then you may need your eyes checked. I had a thread on it not too long ago (same old arguments against it) but there was genuine interest. There have also been other folks who have posted interest in this type of gameplay in other threads.

    **I can see there's people that want this it still doesn't mean it's a good idea and as I said KYF is already in the game options. There's people that want to have killers go 200% movement speed, while some want survivors to be able to attack the killer.

    Both of those are bad ideas and yet there's lots of people that want them, or similar crazy ideas. If we use your logic it should happen because people want them.**

    I do notice a theme in your posts though: when a few individuals disagree with you, you tend take on the role of the "voice of the forums" and present a very elitist attitude in the words you chose, attacking the poster rather than the idea. Even when you make a credible argument, you discredit yourself by attacking the poster.

    I've attacked the arguments plenty and you had no argument, you went straight to insults so I attacked your credibility. You didn't like it and resorted to more of the same along with deflections.

    You may forget, but the forums make up a VERY small and specific minority of players (for any game). Sometimes a majority belief in a forum is a minority of the players...or more importantly, potential customers.

    You claim to notice a theme in my posts yet ignore where I've stated many a time the forums are a minority of the playerbase and that many people probably aren't even aware they exist. For someone so versed in my posting you seem to conveniently ignore a lot that doesn't fit your narrative.

    Tl;dr: There are definitely people who want to KWF. Just because it may not be technically feasible at the moment doesn't negate the genuine interest in this type of gameplay. Having two communicable killers is something I think many SWF mains are fearful of because it would be a serious obstacle for them.

    Again KYF or kill your friends is already a game mode and has been for quite some time. Also having 2 communicable killers would be fine in theory against a full 8 man swf. But against say 8 solo players it'd be a massacre.

    You're also forgetting that this would require dedicated servers and because of this people would need to be close to a server. Then you have the issue of killers would be heavily favored coding wise on whether a hit took place or not similar to say Overwatch or CS.

    If you think huntress hitboxes are bad they'd be nothing compared to how that'd work and the survivors would be at a heavy disadvantage latency and packet wise. If you'd go read all the other threads where this idea has been debunked countless times before by people with far more network and coding experience than me you'd understand.

  • AttackfrogAttackfrog Member Posts: 1,134
    powerbats said:

    @Attackfrog said:

    Your facts don't add up since quite a few of those opposed are killer mains so you might want to get your facts straight.
    
    It won't happen due to optimization issues on console and even then the connection would destroy console users. But yes go ahead and keep showing your bias against actual logic and facts I'm sure it'll get you far. 😜
    
    
    
    **Typical survivor main spewing typical survivor rhetoric and oppressing the real killer mains once again! 
    
    Us true killer mains know exactly how we feel!
    

    **

    Ah yes the typical Ad Hominem thrown in and as usual completely and utterly wrong. Killer main currently atm so yet again your argument falls flat on it's face. You just can't admit the idea isn't sound for a myriad of reasons so you resort to the classical and failed survivor main insult.

    It will never happen because it isn't feasible from any standpoint no matter how you try and argue with insults, facts will always shoot you down in FLAMES But keep up with the insults as i said I'm sure eventually you'll learn to accept those don't work here.

    You are using the word "insults" wrong. Perhaps take your own advice instead of "flaming" my posts and speak more directly to the topic.

    Seems pretty clear you were trying to insult me with that bolded comment of yours above.

     The idea is actually quite sound. The amount of people playing at one time in the OP is probably not realistic but 2 killers at one time would make for some great gameplay.

    2 killers would make it more interesting but as stated repeatedly in ym post and others countless times it won't work due to all the reasons listed in this thread and the rest.

    Just because they don't have the backend work to make it happen doesn't mean people don't want it or that the idea is bad.

    The idea is bad because of all the factors that'd make it bad, those have been discussed ad nauseum, you just don't like the reasons.

    If you can't see that there ARE people who want a KWF scenario, then you may need your eyes checked. I had a thread on it not too long ago (same old arguments against it) but there was genuine interest. There have also been other folks who have posted interest in this type of gameplay in other threads.

    **I can see there's people that want this it still doesn't mean it's a good idea and as I said KYF is already in the game options. There's people that want to have killers go 200% movement speed, while some want survivors to be able to attack the killer.

    Both of those are bad ideas and yet there's lots of people that want them, or similar crazy ideas. If we use your logic it should happen because people want them.**

    I do notice a theme in your posts though: when a few individuals disagree with you, you tend take on the role of the "voice of the forums" and present a very elitist attitude in the words you chose, attacking the poster rather than the idea. Even when you make a credible argument, you discredit yourself by attacking the poster.

    I've attacked the arguments plenty and you had no argument, you went straight to insults so I attacked your credibility. You didn't like it and resorted to more of the same along with deflections.

    You may forget, but the forums make up a VERY small and specific minority of players (for any game). Sometimes a majority belief in a forum is a minority of the players...or more importantly, potential customers.

    You claim to notice a theme in my posts yet ignore where I've stated many a time the forums are a minority of the playerbase and that many people probably aren't even aware they exist. For someone so versed in my posting you seem to conveniently ignore a lot that doesn't fit your narrative.

    Tl;dr: There are definitely people who want to KWF. Just because it may not be technically feasible at the moment doesn't negate the genuine interest in this type of gameplay. Having two communicable killers is something I think many SWF mains are fearful of because it would be a serious obstacle for them.

    Again KYF or kill your friends is already a game mode and has been for quite some time. Also having 2 communicable killers would be fine in theory against a full 8 man swf. But against say 8 solo players it'd be a massacre.

    You're also forgetting that this would require dedicated servers and because of this people would need to be close to a server. Then you have the issue of killers would be heavily favored coding wise on whether a hit took place or not similar to say Overwatch or CS.

    If you think huntress hitboxes are bad they'd be nothing compared to how that'd work and the survivors would be at a heavy disadvantage latency and packet wise. If you'd go read all the other threads where this idea has been debunked countless times before by people with far more network and coding experience than me you'd understand.

    My very first comment on this thread was a tongue in cheek comment based on the "us vs them" (survivor "mains" vs killer "mains" ....which is ridiculous in itself) mentality so often used in this forum....pretty much a troll post. You bit, so I rolled with it.

    Second post was the same only escalated for more division between the "factions". I wondered how seriously were we going to take this same argument.

    Third (lengthy one) was all true. And you are still arguing with yourself and repeating the exact same arguments (tech, servers, stability...blah blah blah). You focus solely on comments that "support" your side and again, ignore anything said that might make a KYF feasible if given appropriate tech support (IE: the notion of different leagues for grouped matches)

    Maybe you should go re read the other threads about this topic instead of beating a dead horse and you might be able to tease out some of those great ideas.
  • HomesliceHomeslice Member Posts: 36

    I do think at least a new mode of play should be in order?. Maybe instead of 5 gens it's activate 10 power grid switches... find x amount of this etc.

  • BingBongBoiBingBongBoi Member Posts: 90

    The there has to be a kill with friends mode. Imagine two p3 nurse mains. 10 dcs one match

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @BingBongBoi said:
    The there has to be a kill with friends mode. Imagine two p3 nurse mains. 10 dcs one match

    That'd actually be 2 Freddy's both perkless and 10 dc's 1 one.

  • WateryWatery Member Posts: 1,118
    Eh, I don’t know how i feel about it. I feel like after the launch of the mode, for like a few weeks it’ll be popular, then it’ll die. Kinda like Realm Royale.
  • fahrezaa11fahrezaa11 Member Posts: 4

    @Homeslice said:
    Make this happen.

    Maybe total Gen 12, If 8 survivor versus 2 killer

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