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Is dbd survivor sided or killer sided ?

Drixpy_JayyyDrixpy_Jayyy Member Posts: 181
edited May 2021 in General Discussions

what are your thoughts.

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  • JesseJH28JesseJH28 Member Posts: 477

    I think it's more balanced now than it ever has been before (minus certain bugs, but obviously those aren't intentional). Between map variation, different killer powers, perk combos on both sides, I don't know that you can call the game as a whole killer or survivor sided. There are just too many variables in my opinion. I think we all just need to play the cards you're dealt and have fun with it if we can.

  • IlliterateGenocideIlliterateGenocide Member Posts: 4,110

    right now it seems to be more balanced then ever, and i have a fair challenge playing both sides, with current bugs (killer sided, pallets)

    the new maps looks very nice for both sides, not as easy to get lost in the corn

  • felix452felix452 Member Posts: 59

    Idk lately I been getting 3k-4k with basement build as trapper have not got less I would say it depends on the tiles spawn that why I'm running basement force them to play my style on any map

  • glitchboiglitchboi Member Posts: 5,416

    Neither imo

  • thrawn3054thrawn3054 Member Posts: 5,275

    Neither really. There's so many variables that neither can really be said to have the edge.

  • bobateobobateo Member Posts: 254

    Probably neither.

    So much depends on matchmaking and the RNG of the maps.

  • Warcrafter4Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917

    The answer is it depends:

    Maps can spawn with effectively nothing for survivors to work with making it a landslide for the killer and almost always a 3-4k.

    While other times it spawns with so many god pallets survivors have to be trying to lose to not get a 3-4 man escape.

    Also This is ignoring imbalance created by the current rank based Matchmaking.

  • CrowmanCrowman Member Posts: 4,918

    Currently the game does not favor killers IF survivors are efficient with their main objective. There is simply not enough time for a killer to hook multiple survivors and prevent all gens from getting done.

    However, with matchmaking being the way it is. Most solo matches are just not balanced enough where it tends to start favoring killer, because 1 weak link on a survivor team can spell death for everyone. Not to mention the number of survivors that still rage quit.

  • DemonDaddyDemonDaddy Member Posts: 3,500

    Mechanically Survivors have the advantage with objectives, though personal skill/teammates can hinder this

    Killers are more pressed to play efficiently, but a good player can make any design feel OP

  • YamaokaYamaoka Member Posts: 4,180

    It comes down to many factors. Builds, maps, the killer (character), rng etc. affect the outcome of a match massively.

    Generally speaking though the game is survivor sided on the highest level of play.

    However since the vast majority of survivors are not good at the game (most survivors are bad at looping, have terrible decision making AND avoid doing gens) killers typically win almost every single match even when using their powers poorly and chasing a single person too long as certain things are honestly too strong against non-optimal survivors.

    Slugging + proxying hooks (resulting in easy trade hooks even whilst defending near-by gens) makes it hideously easy to dominate nearly every match even when using the killer's power poorly.

    Even though I'm slugging entire teams myself if I see a chance to do so I think particularly slugging should receive a(nother) nerf at this point as I noticed killers that have literally no idea how to use their powers correctly make up for it by slugging. (looking at you mediocre Nurse players who miss a million blinks but make up for it by infectious slugging)

    In my opinion a killer should not even have the slightest chance of getting all 4 kills if they aren't using their powers well.

    A 4k should reflect your dedication and skill/experience. It shouldn't be the typical result of a mediocre killer player's match.

  • ShadowRainShadowRain Member Posts: 607

    Low level play is definitely killer sided but high level play survivors have a huge advantage.

  • MetzuMetzu Member Posts: 84

    Only considering your average red rank match, winning as killer is far easier, especially when it comes to pipping. But, at the highest level, as others have mentioned, survivors are basically unbeatable.

  • JasixJasix Member Posts: 1,225

    Neither. You will find survivor mains who say survivor and Survivor mains who will say killer.

    I play almost 50/50 - more like 55/45 killer/survivor and each side has it's pros and cons when it comes to gameplay and balance.

    All threads like this accomplish is a bunch of vitriol and hyperbole - which is the norm for about 80% of the threads on these forums.

  • RivynRivyn Member Posts: 2,969

    So long as SWF is implemented as it is now, survivor sided.

  • AkitoAkito Member Posts: 611

    It is supposed to be survivor sided.

    That's a fact it has to be that way. Wouldnt make any sense if Survivors couldnt escape by playing as a team and playing very good. No one would play Survivor if there was no chance of survivor except the Killer is high end dog poo.

    The rest is not very easy to explain. There are so many random aspects and different circumstances that I had to write a novel just to clarify if this game is k/s sided.

    To keep it simple: It's mostly killer sided. But once survivor play well and play as a team, some of them will win and this HAS TO be like that.

    That's not sth that needs to be fixed, that's sth that needs to be kept.

  • meowzilla69meowzilla69 Member Posts: 384

    The only thing that’s killer & survivor sided are the maps. IMO that’s how things are. DBD isn’t any “sided”. both sides got good perks nerfed & adapt to the play style of such nerf & find new viable builds.

  • HectorBrandoHectorBrando Member Posts: 2,671
    edited May 2021

    Depends on the bracket, at extremely high levels of skill and with SWF the game does favor Survivors but almost nobody plays at that level, at entry level, bad and average level is Killer sided, at good level is quite balanced (assuming a neutral map, at good level, maps are the unbalancing factor most of the time).

    Main problem is not the balance but the perception of it with how ranks work, you can be a bad player and reach rank1 playing against even worse players because pipping is not tied to level or rank you face or anything at all, you can literally get rank1 by smashing rank20 (obviusly the pool is too big for that to happen but still it could happen, smashing ranks20 do give double pips to ranks2).

    The thing is you play a game against way better players, you lose 1 pip or even blackpip, then against awful players, you double pip, in the end you will reach rank1 no matter what. Here is where the problem lies, you have 3 sets of ranks1/2, the extremely good, the good and the average/bad. Now lets say you are one of the bad rank1 and get paired against good rank1, you are all the same rank but the other side is much much better than you and diferences of skill in this game are extremely noticeable (someone twice as better than you will outperform four times, not two times) so you get bodied, go onto the score scream and voila "but they are ranks1 and 2 like me yet I got smashed" so if you were same level and you got smashed that means the balance is at fault, equal levels should mean equal performance but no, the game sold you an illusion and made you believe you were as good as your oponent while in truth they were out of your league.

    In the end people either realize that or come to the forums and demand absurd nerfs. I do hope MMR will at least mitigate matchmaking messes so people end facing people like them.

    P.D. this applies to both sides.

    P.D.2 Ive seen streamers rank 3 and 2 being absolute trash, awful players making beginners mistakes yet they are reds and whenever they get massacred by decent or good players is always the same mantra "damn swfs sweatlords" or "pffffff myers with brown addons on Badham is SO op...".

  • Friendly_BlendetteFriendly_Blendette Member Posts: 2,498

    Low ranks - Killer absolutely stop and 4k at like 5 gen almost every match.

    HIgh ranks in a SWF - Killers get bullied.

  • Entity_Lich94Entity_Lich94 Member Posts: 314

    Overall its not really either sided. There are so many factors and RNG that can influence how the match is gonna go for either side that you cant really paint a black and white picture of it. If we're talking about the absolute best players then I'd say its slightly more in the survivors favour but there are plenty of thing killers can do now to actually stop them if they are good enough unlike back during 2016-2018 era

  • sulaimansulaiman Member Posts: 2,494

    The point is not even if it is survivor sided or not. The matchmaking is soo bad, that even if it were perfectly balanced otherwise, you either get a killer that outmatches you, or your team outmatches the killer, or you have rainbow ranks all around.

    SWF makes a huge difference on skill level, even if a lot of people dont seem to understand that (or try to deny it in fear it might be balanced differently)

  • premiumRICEpremiumRICE Member Posts: 798

    it depends on which side you main :s

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 12,679

    Low ranks = killer sided

    High ranks = survivor sided.

  • YatolYatol Member Posts: 1,410

    If at least half of survivor are solo, Killer Sided

    3-4 man SWF with communication. survivor sided

    there's other factor like map, perks, rng and luck

  • KebekKebek Member Posts: 3,676

    This is the best answer to this question I've ever seen.

    Someone should honestly print this and hand it out each time anyone asks about which side is favored.

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