Yeah for the people who try to abuse the speed boost at short loops by repeatedly using it
So wraith should have a cooldown for uncloaking?
No he doesn't 🤣. Ever tried coming in at an angle ? I know I do if I notice they're taking off early
Those arnt even his good add ons 🤣
Not even close to op. He has moved up a tier or so but not to nurse and spirit level etc. Survivors please stop Complaining when we get good stuff on killer side.
There is a little thing called adapting which isn't hard to do
He is in a good spot now. We like him having a good buff and it's making me liking it. He's like a good killer to play against.
Let me simplify:
Wraith is mid tier at best.
Bamboozle is a pathetic perk to complain about.
Play the game for more than 8 hours before giving anecdotes.
Honestly, I think the lunge buff was completely unneeded after making windstorm base kit. Been playing him a lot recently and running MYC with Dragons Grip, BBQ, POP, Clapper and Swift hunt is absurd in terms of snowball potential. His addons either need a rework or the lunge needs a tweak. I know someone's going to say "JuSt PlAy ArOuNd WiNdOwS!" but with how many maps have generators in complete deadzones that simply isn't always an option. Being exposed when there's only unsafe pallets around against a killer who excels in getting the opening hit isn't a great experience.
You drew a lot of assumptions from a couple of opinions on a thread, the most impressive of which is assuming I only have 8 hours which if were the case I doubt I'd be as interested in engaging with people who can't formulate a decent response such as yourself
I appreciate the attempt though, the smiley face at the end really brings home the point
Have a nice day.
No a slight delay after cloaking where he cant start the uncloak animation
Also really fun to play as! :)
You can only be running Spine Chill by chance because you don't know you're facing a Wraith when you pick your build. And even then it can be countered by just angling your camera when approaching a gen.
😂 What sense does that make?
When he clocks, he can't hit you.
When he uncloak he can't attack until he's fully uncloacked, which takes what, 3 or 4 seconds?
And that is with swift hunt.
Which means he waste time by cloacking and then uncloacking again, which costs time on his side.
If you still go down after that than you were going anyway or you let your routing be dictated by him instead of following your own routing.
But if we are going to ad a little delay when he clocks and uncloak, why not giving the survivors a cool down with any actions when they stop and want to continue it again.
Like for example you heal someone and you or that person got spooked but realise that there is no-one there.
Then you can't heal or do any other progression for a x amount of time
This would be bad and doesn't make sense. He already has a "delay" in his uncloaking
Wraith was one of the few killers who was a threat to survivors choosing not to heal and that's has been alleviated more. And the map is often a make of break for how threating he can be.
Ah. I see you're still under the influence of old wraith. That's ok. He's far past "mid tier" now
Give me a break. Are you really saying that using a killer’s ability the right way is abusing it? You people really make me laugh.
You can make a killer stronger in any number of ways. Many of those will not be fun to play as, against, or both. Wraith is not fun to play against in his current state. Calling that out does not mean that you want Wraith to be bad; it's just an opinion about his current state. I think he needed some buffs, but I think what he got was too much.
I would keep the quieter footsteps/snarl, the true invisibility at long range, and the less complete decloaking when interacting with gens and such. I would reduce the speed boost while cloaked to ~135% (roughly old yellow windstorm territory instead of the old purple windstorm). I would also rework his decloaking speed mechanic. Instead of slowing down to a crawl and then speeding him up hugely for 1.25 seconds, I would smooth that out; increased movement speed while decloaking (think maybe 90% instead of the 40% it is now) but also no mega lunge on the other side. That means greater ability to bodyblock while decloaking but also less spamming the lunge in smaller loops. The fewer attacks in this game move at high speed, the better imo; as is killers like Wraith can get some disgusting and tilting hits through pallets and windows.
It is simply this. Look at all of the killers that survivors complain about (only 1 or 2 are justified IMO)
What is the common element of all of them? You can't loop them normally, you need to play differently against them because their power allows them to either ignore loops, shorten them, or requires you to play vastly differently at loops than you normally would.
I don't agree with the whole "survivor bad killer good" stereotype. In fact, I think it's immature, and that both sides have their "bad sides."
You're allowed to have your own opinion on Wraith, so yeah that's fine. Although as surv you need to learn how to loop to get the most out of your chases. There are many great guides out there on how to loop as surv on YouTube.
Because if you are playing him like a hit and run you wouldn't be uncloak every 2s and then you could change swift hunt to reduce the cooldown its 3s to uncloak so If your using him wrong he's gonna feel clunky now I there is sometimes where you cloak and theres a surivor next to you you could use you speed to block them during the cooldown
Btw its 3s uncloak without swift hunt
And it's only when he cloaks he still plays the same when he uncloaks
The game doesn´t consist in running in circles.
Huh no I'm saying as a way to prevent people from abusing it I've played against some wraiths at low loops that just abused the speed every time they missed and left you with almost no time to try and gat to a nearby loop
Good thing I didn't say that
As someone who played wraith a stupid amount of time, I'm very sure it is 3s with swift hunt.
But ok, give him a cooldown and do the same for the survivors.
They still play the same as before the stopped a progression action.
Apparently not everyone plays him as a hit and run, but there comes the survivor perspective in play.
If you know he's not playing like that then you adapt your playstyle.
There are matches when i play killer where i find it unfun the way a survivor team is playing and vice versa.
But I'm not on the forums or messaging them that the way they play is unfun or unfair.
Everyone has their own playstyle and you can't force someone to play differently with cooldowns just because you don't like that playstyle.
It's all a matter of adapting to how the match goes and how a certain person plays.
So how did you do this with old wraith where he ran windstorm add on? 🤔
Complaining about Bamboozle implies that.
Again, all I said was bamboozle on wraith is annoying because of his high mobility and addons that let him vault basically instantly
I don't see how that's me going "yeah the game needs to be nothing but running in circles"
“abusing” is just a word like “toxic” in the dbd community, it has lost it’s original meaning. people using stuff for their advantage are “abusing” it, people doing stuff others don’t like are “toxic”.
like the definition of “tunneling” or “camping”.