That is if the survivor is a noob for the most part, then yes.
Only problem i have with wraith is his all seeing add on. I don't think he needs it hkenstly and should be reworked other than that he's fine. You can still loop him but wraith requiring no skill? What a joke. Thats what happens when you can't bully wraiths anymore.
This comment got me rolling 💀
The only thing you've proven is that you're upset about ONE killer (Just like the rest of this community) in a game that has 22 other killers with a new one on the way. You aren't the only one that hates a specific killer. I hate trickster and you don't see me all up in arms and making a post about it.
You're gonna get hit though if you don't stun on an unsafe pallet.
"Unsafe pallet" usually being "pallets that killers can play after they are thrown", not just pallets where the killer respects it and gets a free hit.
That's a safe pallet.
I was going by the standard def of an unsafe pallet that if doesn't stun a killer, the killer can get the hit on you while you're locked in animation.
I haven't seen the term used like that in years, normally a safe pallet is one that has to be broken, a god pallet is one that can just be camped once it's thrown, and an unsafe pallet is one that can actually be played or else it's not and never has been a "safe pallet", a la car loops and most junk tiles.
Of course, most loops are safe pallets with the bloody reworks. You don't need to throw Hay tiles to counter Wraiths lunge any more, for example, because they're so stupidly big.
He doesn't I used to main him and played him once after the buff but didn't like it they made him too easy all I have to do is cloak mid chase and unclean to get my boost and lunge range and I 4k it's bor8mg at least before I had to use my head and think is this chase worth it.
Not sure how that definition has changed with or without reworks. The interaction has been the same for years. Safe and god pallets are mutually exclusive.
There are pallets that are safe because if you loop absolutely perfectly it takes bloodlust to get the hit or break pallet. God pallets cannot result in a hit even with t3 bl. That's the difference between them.
Unsafe is unsafe because if the killer plays correctly it will result in a hit regardless of survivor skill.
Show me some picture examples of what you differentiate between safe and unsafe. I certainly don't call car loops unsafe lol. Pallet between two small rocks? unsafe.
You mean the bugged lunge that was short and broken because it did nothing? Or the fix where they patched it after the rework to work as intended?
Vs. bad survivors I agree he doesn’t really take skill to play, but vs. good survivors he definitely does. That’s not me trying to have a dog at ya, it’s just how he is designed.
There's an arguament to be made that killers like Wraith don't take any more skill than basic red stain mindgames but thats more on the limits of the killers power and less on the player.
That said this ain't it.
Outside of his cloaking he has nothing going for him, just a hold W killer in chases, so why assume he will chase you for more than 10 seconds?
Especially when he has many perks that compliment the surprise attack aspect of him, like Make your choice, Dragon's Grip, BBQ , Sloppy, Nurses ect.
This is why most Wraiths play the (admittedly kinda boring) hit and run playstyles with long heals.
Wraith's gimmick is that he's a ambush killer, not a chaster killer. Committing to a chase against a good player in a place with lots of pallets is a death sentence for Wraith.
After reading your comments, i might take it back wraith does require skill. Not like huntress or nurse for example, if i get downed by wraith i don't feel like i've been outplayed, on the other hand if huntress hits me with her hatchets i do feel like i've been outplayed. I feel like wraith is not mechanically challenging to play as. Obviously he has his lunge which do require some skill if you master it.
I do still think that wraith is super boring to play against. I also think that wraith is a lot more easier to play than most of the killers.
Wraith seems good until you get the Game, Badham, Haddonfield or any good survivor map. And he's gonna struggle.
That might also be my problem, because whenever its a wraith he takes map offering to hawkins or lerys.
On an indoor map Wraith will wreck you but that goes with any stealth on an indoor map. But once you get to some open maps with insane loops Wraith is much weaker.
Wraith wasn’t popular before due to being dependent on windstorm outside of meme builds. This usually meant he only had 1 addon slot open so there wasn’t really much you could do in terms of exciting new combos.
Takes more skill than spirit
People may be referring to the lunge bug. There was a problem for a few weeks after the windstorm buff that made the uncloak speed boost slower to build up so the lunge was trash for awhile. It was after the bug patch that it got fixed and also is when these wraith complaints started. If you need proof I can find a thread where Mandy confirmed the bug existed
Not really. I see far more spirits with apparently bad headphones who really struggle to hit and to down survivors while phasing and thus ending with 1 or 0 kills only.
On the other side I never see a wraith with 0 kills. Even good red rank solo Qs are often nailed to an indecisive draw / 2 k as the best result.
Most wraith 3 or 4 k against average players.
I mean the long lunge that was put in when he was buffed and myself and some content creators thought was a bug but still made it into the live version.
They are talking about Wraith having a longer lunge then before.
NOT a shorter one!
We're in a time loop! Sort of.
What I mean is in the recent bugfix update they fixed the lunging issue. So by fixing that bug his lunge got better so even though it was just fixing a problem to the people who didn’t know there was an issue it would look like a buff
I love how survivor mains want you to play stealth killer and then expect you to play him like regular chase killer like clown etc. Wraiths power is designed to sneak up on you and you are playing wraith wrong if you dedicated long time chasing a single survivor.
with 2k hours you cant loop wraith ? good red rank solo can give 0 kills to red rank wraith. this already happens many times on my games, lol u compare wraith with spirit and wraith win ? is that 2k hours even real ? someone with 2k hours would agree that spirit is far more stronger than that bing bong boy