Why you don't heal against Legion
GrimReaperJr1232
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In my sad experience in solo queue, I have seen many things. Farming off hooks, people cleansing against Plague with No Mither, people running No Mither, gotten sandbagged, etc, etc.
But for reasons I don't understand, I still get teammates that heal against Legion. I don't mean healing to go for an unhook or if they're dead on hook—that's perfectly fine and reasonable. Better off wasting a little bit of time than being dead, and if you're injured, going for a save is suicide.
The problem isn't just how easily he can injure you. It's how much time you're spending just on healing. For example, Deathslinger is capable of inflicting DW, just like Legion, and is considered to be one of the better anti-healing killers because of it.
But why's that? Why does DW make such a difference?
It takes 12 seconds to mend. That's the same amount of time to snap out of it or search a single jigsaw box. Not terribly long, though it can start adding up if the Legion absolutely hates your guts and wants to slow the game to crawl by DW-ing you over and over ad nauseam.
The real kicker, however, comes when you heal. Let's say you get a teammate to start touching your butt after a gen pops. How much time are you taking healing?
Including the time mending (assuming you mend yourself because altruistic mending never happens), you have 12 secs + 16 secs healing. This adds up to 28 seconds of just healing. For comparison, Sloppy Butcher increases a heal to 20 seconds. Yeah, 8 more seconds than a Sloppy Butcher heal.
Are you a Claudette that believes in the power of self-caring? Congrats, because you're killing your team. 32 seconds of healing, plus 12 of mending. That's 44 seconds... of just healing. Once more, Mangled Self Care is 40.
Speaking of Sloppy and Mangled, you're not safe from that either. Defaced Smiley Pin was buffed, remember? You're mangled until healed. What does that mean?
12-sec mend + 20 seconds of raw healing. That's 32 seconds. Congrats. You basically self-cared. And you know what people think of self-care.
Speaking of which, 40 seconds of healing with the 12 sec mend? Are you trying to kill your team? That's 52 seconds? You are doing more for the killer than they are themselves!
Did I mention the mend add-ons yet? No? Welp, Legion has 2. They increase the time you spend holding M1 without so much as a skillcheck from 12 secs to 13.5, 14.5, and 16 (stacked).
And since I brought him up, Slinger is worse. 12 to 13.5, 15.5, and 17 (stacked).
Don't think I'm saying, "never heal against Legion." Sometimes, you have to. Someone has to go for the rescues. If you're dead on hook, it's often too risky to remain a one-shot. If it's endgame, you have all the time you need. If you get unhooked and the person has We'll Make It, obviously mending isn't a concern and speedy heals are speedy heals.
Otherwise, please... stop healing unnecessarily against Legion. You're basically handing the game to them.
Comments
Yeah sure i agree, i preferably don't heal against a legion and self care is definitely not the solution.
But people also can play how they want we can't change that.
I just thought giving the numbers might actually put into perspective just how much time goes into healing.... and I'm a nerd who likes giving stats, as @Tatariu can attest.
I have a better one.
I've got teammates who healed against infinite T3 Myers. The match after, I've got teammates who healed against Devour Hope instead of looking for the totem.
At this point, I'm not shocked anymore to see people healing each time they got injured by Legion.
(And yes, all of this was in red rank.)
I was infected by Plague, 75% progressing, and injured.
Nea was so insist to heal me, after healing, the progressing was 95%, I got injured again few sec later.
That Nea later cleansed then immediately working on the same Gen with me.
Sometimes I heal against the Legion. Honestly, most of them bring Thanatophobia or other add-ons that make doing generators take longer. Not to mention Discordance. If no gen slowing down perks were present, maybe me and others that think like me wouldn't try to heal.
Sorry that not everyone can avoid taking another hit in an already damaged state.
We’ll make it makes healing against legion worth it IMO, otherwise it’s a waste
Pardon?
Are you a Claudette that believes in the power of self-caring? Congrats, because you're killing your team. 32 seconds of healing, plus 12 of mending. That's 44 seconds... of just healing. Once more, Mangled Self Care is 40.
Yeah I'm telling you it's worth it, I make off like a bandit!
With the huge amount of healing required in the current tome I'm seeing it a lot more than usual....
THE NUMBERS GRIM!!! WHAT DO THEY MEAN???
To make things worse, it'll cost Legion only half of that time to injure you again
Hope you understand sarcasm -_-
In before "Play how you want" comments.
Last time I played against a Legion my team was doing this. It was painful.
Very good points @OP and also now that u mention it,why would u work together with other people on gens vs legion?
(I'm talking about the start of the trial obviously)
The more spread out survivors are and doing gens the better the chances of winning.
Honestly unless the Legion has ruin+undying I find that healing is pretty effective actually. If you can heal up quickly enough that's just another round of frenzy he has to go into and hit everybody again. If the survivors play it right that can honestly take more time than healing did. He also would have to injure everybody again and then follow up with another hit which can be hard for Legion.
Most of the time I think it's better to heal against a Legion.
Why did you let her heal you?
Too late.
Genrush stops all killers. So finish generators fastly and then you will have time to heals. Also when gens finish so fast, killer will get panic.