I played wraith a lot after the update but i played always without addons so i cant say something about that.
With wraith i get many matches where i win for free bc survivor give me free hits. But my highest winstreak is still only 9. Some matches i lose bc i mess up but they are still a lot harder compared to my average matches. Against good survivor you suddenly need to exhaust their pallet ressources bc they reach the loops more often. (Comms, spine chill, sprintboost, game sense, safer gens etc) You dont get easy downs bc they heal near pallets and know how to loop a wraith. His lunge and bodyblocking are not the strongest chase tools if the survivor knows where you are. But against good survivor you need a down eventually. Keeping all injured will not stop the gens forever.
But i know that there are still things to learn for me. So if someone shows me a wraith dominating against good survivor i will change my view.
But a regular Wraith that makes some mistakes will also not automaticly win against a decent lobby. If people just let Wraith uncloak on their back without reacting, if they just wait for him to bing his bong while they continue that generator as they could with old Wraith, then they deserve to get hit. Ignoring the Killer should get you punished.
If we are not to assume a lobby is 4 decent survivors with a discord, then we should not assume that every Wraith is Otz, Scott or whoever that has more than 6.000 hours of playtime too. Otherwise this would be double standart.
A beginner friendly character can be S-Tier too. This depends on skill floor and skill ceiling.
And in the end Wraith is just an M1 killer who has a fast lunge after a decent indicator that he is now going to lunge. Wraith literaly rings a bell to tell you "Hey buddy, here comes my lunging attack!". So there is enough counterplay to him in that regard.
We could talk about some of his addons. But overall he is now finaly a fun to play as and against Killer and not "Oh, its Wraith. I guess we get an easy win.".
Yeah, I have gotten that feeling recently. I think it's because of the super lunge, but at the same time the super lunge adds a lot to his skill cap so I don't think it should be removed.
What I'd do is increase the true invisibility radius to 28m rather than 20m, because with his speed 20m is nothing, and then SLIGHTLY decrease his cloaked movement speed. (only slightlg)
I don’t know who told you that wraith is fun to play against but you have been lied to. The thing is that with his fast lunge he is 100% more likely to hit through a pallet, you can’t mindgame him because he will either bodyblock the pallet or window and then you are screwed. You are just standing there and can’t do anything, no idea to run away because you barely get distance anymore.
Simple solution to not get hit through pallets? Don't be greedy against a wraith that is uncloaking.Also why should you be guaranteed to get away if he uncloaks next to you?
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Its hit and run.
He always gad strong add-ons but a weak basekit. Now that the basekit has been buffed, he's fine at base and inevitably add-ons push him over the top.
Wraith powerful ? Are tou a comedian or something ?
Well, it seems everyone else has had better games against him than me.
But sure, Wraith OP!
I played wraith a lot after the update but i played always without addons so i cant say something about that.
With wraith i get many matches where i win for free bc survivor give me free hits. But my highest winstreak is still only 9. Some matches i lose bc i mess up but they are still a lot harder compared to my average matches. Against good survivor you suddenly need to exhaust their pallet ressources bc they reach the loops more often. (Comms, spine chill, sprintboost, game sense, safer gens etc) You dont get easy downs bc they heal near pallets and know how to loop a wraith. His lunge and bodyblocking are not the strongest chase tools if the survivor knows where you are. But against good survivor you need a down eventually. Keeping all injured will not stop the gens forever.
But i know that there are still things to learn for me. So if someone shows me a wraith dominating against good survivor i will change my view.
But a regular Wraith that makes some mistakes will also not automaticly win against a decent lobby. If people just let Wraith uncloak on their back without reacting, if they just wait for him to bing his bong while they continue that generator as they could with old Wraith, then they deserve to get hit. Ignoring the Killer should get you punished.
If we are not to assume a lobby is 4 decent survivors with a discord, then we should not assume that every Wraith is Otz, Scott or whoever that has more than 6.000 hours of playtime too. Otherwise this would be double standart.
A beginner friendly character can be S-Tier too. This depends on skill floor and skill ceiling.
And in the end Wraith is just an M1 killer who has a fast lunge after a decent indicator that he is now going to lunge. Wraith literaly rings a bell to tell you "Hey buddy, here comes my lunging attack!". So there is enough counterplay to him in that regard.
We could talk about some of his addons. But overall he is now finaly a fun to play as and against Killer and not "Oh, its Wraith. I guess we get an easy win.".
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Yeah, I have gotten that feeling recently. I think it's because of the super lunge, but at the same time the super lunge adds a lot to his skill cap so I don't think it should be removed.
What I'd do is increase the true invisibility radius to 28m rather than 20m, because with his speed 20m is nothing, and then SLIGHTLY decrease his cloaked movement speed. (only slightlg)
CJ: Ah [BAD WORD], here we go again.
I don’t know who told you that wraith is fun to play against but you have been lied to. The thing is that with his fast lunge he is 100% more likely to hit through a pallet, you can’t mindgame him because he will either bodyblock the pallet or window and then you are screwed. You are just standing there and can’t do anything, no idea to run away because you barely get distance anymore.
Simple solution to not get hit through pallets? Don't be greedy against a wraith that is uncloaking.Also why should you be guaranteed to get away if he uncloaks next to you?
Because a braindead wraith shouldn’t be able to hit me, cloak and then get the easiest hit. He required skill before but now he doesn’t.
You serious?
But apparently braindead survivors should have free escape? That's a weird double standard.
When did I say that? A braindead survivor will die if a wraith uncloaks next to them even without the insane lunge.
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You took my post completely wrong.