Exploit the system? This mmr matches me consistently against complete beginners with my main killer (rank1 billy that i play a lot). First time today i even played several people with 0 hours. I slugged my way through countless lobbies today, no change in the matchmaking.
For some reason, god knows why, this mmr seems to think it is good to match me against 4 beginner survivor every game (all games end very quick in 4ks, most with 0 gens done)
Its the amount of killer/survivor played and if you don't have enough points in MMR, it throws you to the wolves to see what skill you should have. Since the person never really played Pig much, it gave them an easy match to see. After that, they'll get harder and harder matches until its almost even with kills/escapes. It takes a few matches to get it and since survivor skill is universal, it's kept at the same level but killer skill fluctuates when it comes to different killers since each killer is different with different powers. You might be a God Freddy but a ######### Plague. It wouldn't be fair to throw you to a bunch of Rank 1's as a baby Plague but as Freddy, you'll get some damn hard matches as him until you lose a lot then it'll lower your score to find a better match for you next time. Hope that helps.
I actually think it has to be this way to an extent (note, extent). Killers do ultimately have unique abilities where switching from one to another can be disastrous. What needs to happen is that there's a baseline MMR for 4.6 m/s killers.
I think the MMR takes into consideration how many chases you go on. If you're using your chainsaw I don't feel it judges you correctly. From what I can tell it's an issue with billy and canibal. Try playing a few games without using the chainsaw to get downs and see if the matchmaking improves.
Yeah, I don't really care about the new players in this scenario.
I’ve played about 8 matches with clown now (my main who I play a lot) and I’m getting rank 15’s. I know rank doesn’t indicate skill but they weren’t very good anyway
New players should feel welcomed into this game and I can’t imagine what it must feel like to be destroy multiple times because someone “doesn’t know how to play pig” when her fundamentals are literally the same as most other killers
I agree that the SBMM should take your current rank at least somewhat into account to create a base score for killers you don't play often, but still, I disagree that the game should once again be held back for the sake of newcomers.
We aren’t really holding much back here. If MMR intends to make balanced matches like it should then new players should be matched against other new players simple as
New players are still players who deserve a fair experience. If matchmaking is constantly throwing them against highly experienced killers because that highly experienced player just bought a new killer, then MMR is failing to give them appropriate matches and they're being used as some guinea pig/punching bag hybrid for the rest of the playerbase to hone their teeth on. (It's also a horrible design philosophy because people are likeliest to commit or quit in their first stretch of playing the game - if they get throttled nonstop, most newcomers will not stick with DBD, which is not something BHVR wants.)
There really should be a floor based off of your average performance, so you don't start out on grey ranks with new killers unless you're grey/yellow normally in performance. The floor should be perhaps midway between your average performance and rock bottom. Maybe Nurse can be her own exception, because many basic skills don't apply, but I shouldn't get rank 20s just because it's my first Demo match. Yeah, it took me half the match to figure out how to use Shred and his portals don't work like I thought they did, but none of that matters because I still know how and when to chase people as a 115 killer, and the survivors I'm being pitted against don't know the map, what the difference is between a dull totem and a hex totem, or why they should be unhooking people. Those survivors should be up against equally confused killers.
That is hardly a surprise, to be honest.
I literally played only 1 match today, and managed to get paired with bad survivors against an experienced Blight.
We’re still not accounting for when the system has to expand its search for players available to lobby up. Perhaps there simply isn’t as large a pool of new killers as there is survivors.
Yeah.. No thanks...
Im getting constantly matched against R 15-20 survivors, absolute newbies and i feel so sorry for them.. What a absolute sh*t experience that must be for new players right now.
I refuse to play killer til this ends.
May be a ######### Plague but a good M1 killer if good with Freddy. No really fair to throw that wolf in with sheep.
Shouldn't it put you at a middle score though? I know these two are not even comparable, but on chess you start with a 1500 ELO (which is considered kind of a mid tier range) and you either progress up or down from there. The way it's implemented on DBD it's like you begin at 500 ELO.
It doesn't. I just tried adept Trickster and got rank 20s. 1st match I ever played with him.
I like the MMR system. I'm playing killers i have never played before, i'm not good at and i don't feel like i'm being punished for it. The more players play killers and the better the get the higher the ranks. The problem with MMR is that everyone can see player rank and think that is what matters even though they say otherwise. Ranks should be removed or hidden honestly, that is the only way to get a fair test. Until then the survivor died because the killer was red rank. yes. that's it. wasn't their fault.
I know it doesn't, it was rhetorical question. I also got rank 15s with Huntress who is a killer I play literally everyday.
Once they play a few games, it'll even out with that killer. It all takes time.
I'd be scared if just takes a few games to go from bottom MMR to top MMR.
It'll get you out of the new players area and high level area if you're not a high level player.
A good Killer player is a good Killer player on any Killer. We know this to be true.
Instead of you being punished for playing new killers new players are being punished. If I can play clown well I can play Freddy well there is no need for completely different MMR scores for them
What about new players? If they keep get matches againts good killers, what will keep them in game? Because i am so good Freddy but i did not played as Spirit. But i know killer mechanics. So defeating them will not hard. But if new players take killers like me, how they will have fun? And i do not think they will stay in game.
There is. You're still new to that killer. After a few games, it'll even out. You think curb-stomping new players won't give you a good score quickly? Same goes for new players. How is it fair for someone who hasn't played survivor in years to come back against a Rank 20 killer and absolutely melts them? Its the same argument. A few game averages a bit and gets you closer to your skill.
I mean i played different killers so far and one the one i usually play (Demo/Wraith) i get red rank survivors, on the one i sometimes touch (Nurse) i get green ranks survivors and on killer that i never touch (Clown) i get yellow-brown.
So far it seems to be a working system.
But should you really get complete noobs when you are a competent killer? It’s not like clown is hard to play
Consider the long term once rank is not a factor. Each mmr will average out to your competency eventually and stomping easy Survivors will just speed the process.
well mmr didn't get any infos on my ability to play clown before this is why it paired me with lower ranks survivors. (and Clown is probably the weakest killer with Legion)
I used my PH just a bit ago was paired with survivors who knew how to play fairly well ended in a 3 gen setup leading to a 4k ranks were 11, 12, 3 and 19. It further shows ranks are not the important factor for this test skill is. This is just my observation though.
Which is how I got my adept Trickster.... ngl