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Fix it or move on to DbD2

lemonswaylemonsway Member Posts: 800

I'm curious on people's opinion on this.

Can DbD be fixed so that it is a Balanced game and everyone can have fun and challenge in all skill levels? Should we have closed the book on DbD and moved to DbD 2 with the coming of new gen consoles? Should we keep adding more or should we take what we learned and make something better?

Knowing how DbD is are you guys fine with continuing to put Licensed content in a game where all the time we're debating Balance? Where all the time we're debating Buggs? Where all the time we're debating Optimization?

Do you believe it can and will be Fixed or should we start fresh without the current issues and improve where it can be improved without wasting precious resources like Licenses?

Honestly i think BHVR is a bit clueless regarding the Future of DbD, they have a huge backlog of things that they never Fixed, they have a huge catalog of issues that arise with every update, they have a huge catalog of Balance changes to make. At some point, it will all be too much to handle on top of adding new content. To me this point was reached in 2019 and throught out 2020 and 2021 we continue with the exact same issues... meaning in 2 years we solved nothing, Covid isn't a valid excuse for everything. Breakable Walls are a bust, Mori changes killed Moris, keys are still unchanged, Undying was another band aid fix to Totems. The state Twins and Trickster launched, etc.

I'd rather have DbD2 honestly, fresh code, fresh killers, fresh Maps, different concepts and philosophies from 2016. A chance to do things right from the start instead of adding more and more to the Fix list every time. Save strong licenses like Silent Hill and Resident Evil for the launch of DbD2 to create hype.

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  • SleepyWilloSleepyWillo Member Posts: 2,081

    Even if they moved onto DBD2 what would make them do things any differently? They know the problems and are, apparently, trying their best to amend them.

    In my opinion if they do change to DbD2, the only change we'll see is in our wallets bevause theyll forcenus to buy the game and DLCs again.

  • lemonswaylemonsway Member Posts: 800

    Who says DbD2 has to be the same grind fest? They could change how progress works in DbD 2 so it isn't a Grind. Effectively DbD 2 would just be the upgrade we deserve after 5 years.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    Spaghetti code is very difficult to fix, but not completely impossible. On the other hand, rebuilding the game from the ground up to fix its issues and calling it a "sequel", while making everyone pay for it, definitely won't go over too well. If they just halt progress on DbD while working on the "sequel" and give it away for free, they'll essentially have no income for a few years, which is probably not sustainable, while DbD (and its playerbase) tanks due to lack of bug fixes.

    Balance issues can be fixed without requiring a "sequel". There's no reason why the same exact devs working on a "sequel" would magically be able to fix all the balance issues when they haven't been able to do so in the first game. I don't understand why you think this would change anything in regards to balance.

    I'd rather they fix the base game.

  • C3ToothC3Tooth Member Posts: 4,340

    What Im not agree on DBD is both side need to use perks to anti a specific play styles called camping,tunneling. Which lead survivors gen rush really hard because if the 1st survivor dies before 4th Gen done, they mostly lose the game if there is no 2nd chance perks.

    I only want DBD to have some mechanic to mostly remove camping,tunneling & gen rush to have the game fair & fun for everyone.

  • NomiNomadNomiNomad Member Posts: 2,682

    I don't think DbD2 is coming for a long while, if at all. Why would they out so much effort into updating the graphics and models (for better or for worse) if they were just gonna move on to a new game in a year?

    So I'd rather them just fix everything.

  • TheMadCatTheMadCat Member Posts: 1,913

    Starting over won't change anything. Issues will come back because nothing is flawless.

  • gibblywibblywoogibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,773

    This game was never meant to bloat to this size. It was never even planned to get DLC until it took off thanks to Twitch and youtube.

    Now it's falling apart under its own weight.

  • lemonswaylemonsway Member Posts: 800

    I honestly think it'd be easier for them at this point to do a game from scratch and do it right rather than have a huge catalog of issues to fix. They can make DbD2 Free to Play. They are already making money with every DLC, Cosmetic and Rifts so they can keep that and make Base game free.

    You are right in saying there's no guarantee they won't screw up again but if they do then it proves DbD1 couldn't be fixed either cause they'd screw it up aswell.

  • RenAmamiyaRenAmamiya Member Posts: 851

    Idk you guys, but I'm not buying DBD2 ever if it means having to regrind everything.

  • UseTheValveUseTheValve Member Posts: 338

    Are you oblivious ? They are redoing everything in DbD, every asset is getting changed.We are getting DbD 2 it’s just piece by pieces.

  • lemonswaylemonsway Member Posts: 800

    Are we tho? What exactly have they changed? They are just making visual upgrades, if anything they made the Maps worse to play in, THe Game and ORANGEFIELDS come to mind. They never fixed any map issues or Totem, they just gave you bloodlust, then when bloodlust didn't work they tried breakable walls, wich still solves nothing and everyone dislikes them but they have never cared to solve the isue, they just circumvented them. Why? Can't they fix them? If they can't then something is horribly wrong. You don't fix infinite loops by forcing killers to break stuff or run the loop for 30 seconds, you get rid of the infinite loop that's it. You don't fix Totem spawns being horrible or Survivors spawning on totems by creating Undying, you fix the spawns... Where exactly are we getting DbD2? I have seen 0 changes to the core game in 2.5 years. The Meta is the same, the issues are the same, the bugs are the same. Nothing is fixed. the Free Iron Will bug still happens a year and half later...Dedicated Servers still create fake hits on windows, pallets, and grabs. Either they are making everything cheaply or they don't know any better. In any case DbD is in a bad place. And there's always the same problems being discussed. Poor graphic optimization, no brightness options, no fov options, no console optimization, Balance, bugs, new content always being released in poor state. IS this what you consider DbD2? Is this what you want to keep happening? This has been happening for years, it's not because of Covid, this is how BHVR handled DbD.

  • Wiggles_DigglesWiggles_Diggles Member Posts: 141

    I would think a DBD 1.5 would be much better. Let them take some time off to do a recode of the game so it is not a spaghetti mess. Kind of like what The Isle did.

  • lemonswaylemonsway Member Posts: 800

    Here we are post RE chapter and the game hit a new all time low on Performance. Map disabled, FPS drops, more Desyncs. Seriously this is just too much for me, i can't understand how a game can be this bad. We even have Invisible Pallets, #########. If this only affected people who buy the DLC's then fine i'd be off the hook since i have no interest in the Chapter because of how horrible it is now and was in the PTB but this affects everyone. This is unnacceptable. Close the book on this game and restart FFS, you have the money from scamming players with skins that cost twice as much as characters for 5 years, make new coding without all the errors, without all the bugs, without all the band aid "fixing".

  • Mr_KMr_K Member Posts: 7,380

    DeadbyBuglight2

  • MeltingPenguinsMeltingPenguins Member Posts: 3,435

    Can the game be balanced?


    Yes?


    Are people who will cry bloody murder should there be anything to make them change their 'loop&juke&genrush' respectively 'tunnel&camp&slug' MO and go to the barricades till the plans are dropped?


    Yes.

  • WexlerWendigoWexlerWendigo Member Posts: 1,867

    DBD2 isn’t needed till next generation at the earliest

  • lemonswaylemonsway Member Posts: 800

    I don't doubt it, we're talking about BHVR but my god the chances of having something that actually works properly are much better than keeping to update the clusterhell that is this game.

  • lemonswaylemonsway Member Posts: 800

    DbD is almost as old as PS4 and Xb1. We can't wait another 6 years for Ps6 to get DbD2.

  • akanadiakanadi Member Posts: 163

    there is no point to making a sequel to this game, and fixes will come over time the dev team may not be the best but hopefully in the future change happens

  • akanadiakanadi Member Posts: 163

    wdym falling apart the game is just growing and will keep growing for a while, and just because bugs doesnt mean everything is falling apart they've added a ######### ton of good stuff but people only focus on the mistakes the devs make

  • lemonswaylemonsway Member Posts: 800

    what fixes over time are you talking about? Give me an example of something BHVR fixed.

  • lemonswaylemonsway Member Posts: 800

    Give me an example of a problem BHVR had and fixed and never came back. The Free Iron Will bug still happens nearly 2 years later. It started late 2019 and it still happens to this day. Not as frequemt but still happens. To me thats not fixed. Infinite loops are still in the game, to me that's not fixed. Desyncs are still happening, Grabs are still busted, performance is at an all time low on consoles, does that sound like Fixed to you? I guess it does...

    FYI Patch Notes come with a Known Buggs section aswell those are issues they are aware off but didn't fix.

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