Wraith definitely needs some nerfs
Sluzzy
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Nothing seems to trigger me more lately than hearing that bell on my tail. There is no skill needed in spamming M2 for a cloak and uncloak to get a free long range free hit. It is every time he is hidden around a loop, uncloaks and moves around a loop at mach speed that's uncounterable. You can’t gain distance, he body blocks windows because they move so fast. Wraiths will play hit and run because of their uncounterable lunges. They’ll smack someone, leave you alone, return in an inconspicuous location and uncloak for an unavoidable down. I thought his bell was for being sneaky, not free hits?
He has a bloated power with tremendous map pressure and a huge lunge. Why does Wraith have an exemption for this kind of advantage? Combined with addons and perks, especially 1-shot perks like Dragon's Grip and Make Your Choice and you have something unfair. It's too much. His bell was once a sign he is about to be stealthy, now it’s a sign you are about to lose no matter what. His add-ons on top of all of this is OP, way more than other killers. Most Wraiths love that All Seeing addon. No downsides. Why does Amanda’s letter have a downside to her aura addon (which makes it a little more fair) but Wraith doesn’t? This addon alone is overwhelmingly OP! Please make this addon so it tremendously reduces his movement speed and slow him down after an uncloak. Because wallhacking in a hide and seek game is a huge advantage.
He needs slowed way down and greatly reduce his lunge so it’s a little more fair.
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Longest post ever just basically asking for a revert. Lol. Also he used to not have the superlunge. Big surprise weakest killer in the game pretty much. Same with the windstorm base. Fix all seeing blood if ya must. But leave his base alone.
Really agree with you on this.
"Nothing seems to trigger me more lately than hearing that bell on my tail."
Wow. Never though I'd see the day where I relate to Sluzzy.
I don't think Wraith needs any nerfs, but I do agree he takes barely any skill to play and is boring as #########.
Please do not feed the troll.
I knew Sluzzy was going to eventually make a post about Wraith!
It is Sluzzy after all.
The amount of complains wraith gets lately make me ever more sure he's in a perfect spot right now.
It took years of small buffs adding addons to his basekit but finally, it seems he's hit the sweetspot.
I like how Sluzzy has never complained about Spirit or Nurse before but only makes threads complaining about things that aren’t problematic.
quality bait right here; 8.5/10
Stopped reading as soon as I seen the name
I don't care if they nerf the purple all seeing add on and his windstorm add ons as long as they leave his actual base kit in peace. They did a great job with his base kit rework.
yeah the all-seeing blood im fine with going on but his basekit is now in a perfect spot
And years of survivor nerfs, he went from a fair and fun killer to being very OP
When you call something OP it's basically always not a problem. Go make a thread about real issues insted of at best low B tier killer.
And Decisive Strike wasn't a problem, but we see what happened! And so many other survivor perks. Toolboxes ruined. So killers get what they want, killers are now overpowered with so many buffs. 1-shot perks galore. Unplayable because killers are winning way too easily.
DS was a problem
No it wasn't. Aura and 1-shot perks are a bigger problem.
There is no killer perk that punishes them for playing the game. All give huge advantages for playing the game normally.
I do agree with one thing here that All Seeing Blood should be nerfed. Old Wraith it was fine because Old Wraith sucked. But with new Wraith not needing Windstorm it should be nerfed. That's something we can agree on.
No Old Wraith was awful. Use to be in the F tier with Myers, Legion, and Trapper.
Why are they F tier? Isn't their killrates well over 2K?
That really says more about the average survivor quality than anything :D We never lose more than 1 person to these Killers unless we throw for the funsies or they get extremely lucky. They are F tier. Well, unless they face solo players that can´t loop and listen to music while playing lol, in that case every Killer is S tier haha :)
Kill rates shouldn't judge the tier of a killer then Blight who you said is OP needs buffs since he has a low kill rate. Old Wraith was awful needed good Add-ons and Perks to stand a chance with low base mobility speed. And lunge. And devoured by good healing perks and exhaustion perks. Myers is terrible his early game might be the weakest in the game. With no significant advantage to tier 2. And Tier 3 easily counterable by playing cautious. Since he has no mobility or way to eat pallets. He's saved by his add-ons. And good perk combos. Even then he's beatable. Trapper can literally have his power denied by a trap too far away. And literally disarmed by survivors and has the worst base in the game. Legion is the worst in the game since literally basic survivor knowledge like spreading out to avoid snowball. And not healing to focus on gens. Counters Legion also they have no way to effectively down a survivor.
Do you think survivors should escape every game?
probably
The problem with Wraith is that he was always good vs newbs, but very bad about good loopers. DEVs made him even better against potatos, but he's still bad against good survivors. He didn't need more invisibility, it only helps to down potatos, he needs something better against looping.
Have you tried looping better sluzzy?
Thats some good bait
I am in complete agreement. Wraith has been overbuffed into a busted state, he gets a broken speed boost after uncloaking, allowing him to instantly catch up to a survivor and gain a free hit. Looping is just not viable against this killer, he does not have to chase, only ambush for free hits. He moves lightning fast in stealth, allowing him to traverse the map far too quickly, pressuring survivors with Barbecue and Chili and other overpowered aura perks. Reaching pallets and windows against him in time is oftentimes impossible, Windstorm add-ons allow him to annihilate pallets, the map quickly becomes a dead zone against him.
Hit-And-Run Wraith with Sloppy Butcher and Nurse’s Calling is an effortless win for most Wraith players. Ruin/Undying/Tinkerer is too common on this killer, an overkill combination for an opponent so strong, and he is highly mobile in stealth and makes working on generators too dangerous. The survivor objective is simply too difficult against the Wraith, especially considering the perks and add-ons that inflate his advantages to unstoppable levels.
Too often do my teams struggle to escape the Wraith, I hope the developers will consider reverting him to his original state.
When was Wraith a fair and fun killer? 2016 or at some point after that?
He shouldn’t have collision when cloaked. This would make for much more interesting gameplay than the boring block window or pallet then lunge and hit rinse and repeat.