Sigh... Bite The Bullet, or Self Preservation do NOT counter Stridor!
TheClownIsKing
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“When healing, you and the Survivor you’re healing make NO NOISE, INCLUDING GRUNTS OF PAIN.”
There’s no percentages here. It’s says NO NOISE. It’s just for the healing action. Make the sounds hidden, or don’t bother making the perk remove any noise. I’m tired of this crap.
This goes the same for Self Preservation. The description specifically says scratch marks, blood, and grunts of pain are HIDDEN!
Stridor Spirit is already strong enough without including MORE ways it CAN’T be countered.
(For clarification, both self healing AND healing somebody else was performed during the match. Grunts of pain we’re still made, albeit quieter. I already know Bite The Bullet doesn’t work if someone else is healing you, unless they have it too).
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I find that to be very dumb imo bite the bullet should counter it fully
Tbh it wasn’t going to be strong anyway but yeah it should at least counter what it’s meant to
It's the same with Self Preservation: "Your Scratch Marks, Pools of Blood, and Grunts of Pain are hidden for 10 seconds." Yet, Stridor still makes your grunts of pain audible.
I find it very dumb when people argue cuz one niche perk does affect other niche perk LOL
That makes me very angry.
It's not dumb when one niche perk single handedly turns a Killer into an uncounterable, unfun and unfair monster, with no chance for Survivors to use any other niche perks that are supposed to counter it but doesn't.
Like OP said, Bite the Bullet explicitly says it should me 'no noise'. It's not a percentage value like Iron Will (where it makes sense for it to clash with Stridor).
Wait.. Stridor on Spirit is considered niche?
Bhvr wants us to stack iron will with bite the bullet just to counter 1 perk
Survivor perks should never counter a killer perk, that goes against the entire concept.
How do you know? Was it a self heal or someone else healing you? I'd like more details on this. As it stands, it's like this perk's only purpose is for consequence free Freddy wake ups
There is no escape from the Stridor Spirit™ 👻
Except we’re not talking about it indefinitely countering Stridor the way players want Iron Will to do. It’s only for the 10 second period that Self Preservation is active, and for however long a Survivor is healing when using Bite The Bullet.
How does a killer perk making 2 niche survivor perks useless sound better than 2 niche survivor perks countering 1 killer perk only periodically during a match?!
Self healing, and when I was healing someone else.
@Almo can we please have a reason as to why either Bite The Bullet or Self Preservation are not entirely silent during their very brief activation periods if the killer is running Stridor?
Stridor is already persistent throughout a match. Is it really so bad for these 2 survivor perks to give survivors very brief reprieve from Stridor?
Unrelated but I really wish Bite The Bullet also hid your aura just while performing the healing action.
I HATE Nurses Calling so much.
a niche killer perk should beat a niche survivor perk, that is all.
If you run Bite The Bullet but the killer has Stridor, then that is just tough luck.
If you run flashbang but the killer has Lightborn, then that is just tough luck
etc etc
A huge problem I have with this game is how sometimes the descriptions are just straight up wrong.
Another thing that annoys me, why doesn't borrowed time work when unhooking yourself? "For 10/12/15 seconds after unhooking a Survivor, the unhooked Survivor is protected by the Endurance status effect"
You are a survivor! You unhook a survivor, it would make sense if it said "another survivor" but it doesn't!
That’s a good point.
If you really hate Nurse's Calling, try this build:
Just don't let the rescuer heal you or lead the killer to you
A killer running Stridor is still going to hear louder breathing of a survivor running Bite The Bullet after they’ve finished healing.
A killer running Stridor is still going to get the full effects of Stridor after a survivor’s 10 seconds of Self Preservation has run out.
I can’t see the problem with either of these 2 perks doing EXACTLY what they describe themselves as being able to do for their very, VERY brief activation periods.
Yeah Bite The Bullet is just really really unnecessary when Iron Will exists. Like they really thought it was a good idea to make a perk that's just Iron Will but only when you're healing? (yes I know it also conceals the other survivor's sounds and the actual healing sounds, but still it's just really weak)
I know I could use Off The Record, I’m just being a sook.
fine fine fine, I really do not care that much in this scenario, for me is just a fundamental part of the game that killer perks should be top trumps
Regardless of how people feel on whether these perks should counter Stridor or not, I think we can all agree that the perks are NOT functioning as their descriptions state. Sound is still being made while the perk is active.
I'd also like to think we can agree that perk descriptions should generally not lie to the player.
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BHVR should do something about this - either buff the perks to match their descriptions or change the text to make it clear that the perks reduce Injured sounds by 100%; not silence them completely.
Both perks are probably coded the same way Iron Will is. I doubt they would waste time coding a different thing when they can just copy and paste from an old perk.
Maybe since it's a killer perk they don't want any survivor perk, no matter how situational or weak, to counter it. They should change the description if that's the case & not a bug.
BHVR coding
Idk if i agree it should counter stridor but i do agree the descriptions just straight up wrong. Why do you say the person makes no noise? That basically means it trumps. But it doesn't as explained in this thread. Some of these descriptions need updated.
Yeah but Iron wills description doesn't straight up say "you make no noise while injured" like these two do.
That could actually turn this from a niche option into a potential counter pick vs stealth killers. Could be interesting