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PSA: The event has NOT started and NOTHING has been released

OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

This apparently needs its own PSA because I keep seeing people comment on things that have not been released.

  • No, the event is not just the crowns and cakes. There's always more we don't know about and this event is no different.
  • Yes, the cakes will stack. They always have (barring bugs). There's literally no reason why they wouldn't all of a sudden.
  • Nobody (except the devs) knows what the event is going to be like in its entirety. Don't trust leaks and assume anything anyone says about what the event "is like " is 100% speculative.
  • Finally, wait until the event actually starts and we have actual information before you criticize it. I don't think it's too much to ask that you base criticisms on real information.

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  • C3ToothC3Tooth Member Posts: 4,334

    Orion is Choco pie in this forum

  • konchokkonchok Member Posts: 1,500

    It's not fair to criticize BHVR based off of leaks. Maybe not you specifically but this community as a whole was way to happy to jump down BHVR's neck for this.

  • YordsYords Member Posts: 5,550

    I'm scared because I am going on a long trip. I fear I will miss out on the event, I know my hopes aren't high for it but I still want the new crowns and anything else it has to offer.

  • PurgatorianPurgatorian Member Posts: 1,133

    I was going to say I have heard of no leaks except the disproven cakes don't stack one. Been playing for 3 years and don't expect high quality anymore from bhvr even though they have more money and a successful game now.

  • RoboMojoRoboMojo Member Posts: 1,296

    Well tbf, Behaviour are consistently breaking the game every other chapter it seems. People are rightfully angry and as such, are using any excuse to bash Behaviour. I am in a privileged position as I play on PC (I'm mostly unaffected by the performance issues plaguing consoles) but I can remember how awful the game performed back when I played PS4. I'm not saying that people are justified for bashing the Devs over leaks alone, but I am saying that the anger in the community is because of Behaviour's actions (Or perhaps inaction, considering they broke the game for many console players).

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    Of what, exactly? How come people always ignore the good things they've done over the years? Remember infinite loops? And even then, how does that justify people taking an unofficial leak of something that hasn't been released yet and immediately ######### on it without actually knowing what it's like? Not just that, but the leak runs contrary to what we know to expect and have seen over the years, yet a lot of people (apparently) lost all memory of the past events. Does that seem logical and fair to you?

  • BloodshadeBloodshade Member Posts: 2,301

    maybe if you were on console you'd understand, but right now you're trying to use logic in a situation that doesn't demand it.

    fact of the matter is that the game sucks right now for a lot of people so of course people are going to take the piss out of the company that decided to push this patch through and have nothing to say for themselves other than "we're aware". what the hell else are we supposed to do, go "thanks for the upcoming event BHVR I bet it's going to be great and I'm really feeling it even though the game is broken"? establish a private discord for the sole purpose of bashing BHVR? it's not like we have any meaningful control over the playability of the game, why not have fun bitching?

    what's the point of this thread other than telling people not to #########? trying to force people to reasonable on the internet is such a waste of time.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    You claim this situation doesn't demand logic, but I've yet to be in a situation where logic didn't, at the very least, help the situation. So let's apply some.

    You're supposed to focus on the actual problem you're experiencing, instead of bashing something you know nothing about. Bashing the devs for something you know nothing about basically guarantees they won't give a ######### about anything you have to say.

    What's the point of listening to you if you're going to complain about everything any time something doesn't work right? Your feedback becomes worthless to them because it's just complaining for the sake of complaining (by your own admission).

    On the other hand, if you complain about the actual problem you're actually having and still provide real feedback, then the devs can work on improving the game overall, because your feedback is reliable and honest.

  • BloodshadeBloodshade Member Posts: 2,301
    edited June 2021

    well if you absolutely insist on using logic and thinking that it works here then may I please direct you to every fog whisperer under the sun who've had their feedback outright ignored despite supposedly being trustworthy enough to be designated the position of being a walking, talking ad for the game. some of which have explicitly outlined all kinds of changes they'd like to see with evidence & experience to back it up (Otz).

    there is no reason to believe that they listen that closely to logical feedback when they don't even listen to fog whisperers. and they've proven that they're willing to bend over for the community whenever people get particularly upset (see the disaster that was the halloween event). so why not complain? seems like they'll either do whatever they want or if the fire gets big enough be forced to do something. with a few exceptions here and there of course.

    i'd love for your idealistic vision of how human back and forth interactions should work to be faultless but unfortunately...it isn't. especially when there's more layers to this than "player give feedback, dev listen & discuss", and especially on the internet. we're dealing with a growing company here, not a conscientious small indie dev.

    let people have their fun. let people have their emotions.

  • ZagridZagrid Member Posts: 999

    I watched the anniversary stream and was not impressed so. Keeping my expectations low and/or non existent.

    BHVR really has hit rock bottom with these updates and events so anything other than a complete let down or scam would be impressive.

  • BloodshadeBloodshade Member Posts: 2,301

    but I've yet to be in a situation where logic didn't, at the very least, help the situation

    also this...

    you're lucky. unfortunately i have.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    You can apply logic to emotions, they don't have to be opposites. If my BF is feeling #########, I apply logic and figure out the best way to cheer him up. The impetus is emotional, but the action is still based on logic.

    You're making a typical mistake, which is to conflate "listen to feedback" with "be subservient to feedback". They are not the same thing. The devs, like almost everyone else you interact with on the Internet, are humans, with human opinions and emotions. They also have access to a much wider range of data than any of us.

    So if you say, for instance, that NOED drives up kill rates and should be nerfed, but the devs look at the data and there's no statistically significant difference between kill rates with and without NOED, they're not going to nerf NOED. Even if the data does back up the claim, that doesn't mean they're going to address the problem in the way you or I think is best. And that's without mentioning the purely subjective matter of what's "fun" to play with/against.

    If your "fun" is in endlessly complaining about things that you don't know about, I don't know what to say.

  • MadLordJackMadLordJack Member Posts: 8,815

    The event looks like it's going to be fine, I don't see why people keep freaking out and complaining. Sure, the code for the cakes was worrying, but this is a buggy AF game.

    If anything, it's the complete lack of other events that's a real issue. One of the easiest and most reliable ways of facilitating developer-consumer relations is by throwing virtual currency and basic menu-theme celebrations around. Bloodhunts and pretty colours would go a long way to calming the community down.

  • ShinobuSKShinobuSK Member Posts: 3,638

    Only thing that bothers me is performance issues and FPS drops and the chances that it wont be fixed with patch shortly before event starts.

    As far as event goes, I don't care about anything but cakes and BP farm so whatever halos and cosmetics for characters I don't play, won't affect me in any way.

    Cake cake cake cake cake

  • BloodshadeBloodshade Member Posts: 2,301
    edited June 2021

    if you think that i believe that every single piece of feedback should be acted upon i don't know what to tell you.

    And that's without mentioning the purely subjective matter of what's "fun" to play with/against.

    and that's one of the main issues with the game innit? some of the best development teams out there typically have really good players of their own game making balancing decisions, or at least have people with close connections with the community at large & can properly analyze how things work even if they can't pull everything off themselves. i'm not sure we have that with dbd. we may have well-intentioned folks here and there but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. and dbd's been in a stale hell for quite some time at red ranks in terms of balance.

    and it's not like the frustration is all about balance. again, console performance sucks ass right now. unacceptably so.

    and yeah, the devs do have emotions. i find it pathetic that people still slander almo for every little thing when people don't even know what he is and isn't responsible for. the people who make it personal toward any of them are scum. but much of the criticism of BHVR as a whole is warranted, even if voiced in an unprofessional & often scathing manner.

  • RivynRivyn Member Posts: 2,966

    Infinites were in the game for four years. That isn't a plus on their side that they were addressed for a short time, and then reintroduced thanks to breakable walls.

    Yes, while we shouldn't fall in line behind leaks, it wouldn't be out of this world to give some validity to them. The cake not staking, for instance. Remember last year when it didn't for a week? Why would be it hard to imagine that it wouldn't run into the same issue this year?

  • WexlerWendigoWexlerWendigo Member Posts: 1,867

    They always have in game messages when events are on too lol

  • GeneralVGeneralV Member Posts: 7,098

    Well, they've promised extra effort on Halloween and Anniversary events, but from what we've seen so far this promise was easily broken. The event seems to be a copy from last year, which is extremely disappointing.

    Of course there might be one or two extra details that we don't know yet, but what I've seen so far doesn't look like a pretty good job.

  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 13,578

    The leak said no stacking.

    They came out saying they do stack.

    IDK what else people need to not blindly trust leaks.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675
  • SuperyoshieggSuperyoshiegg Member Posts: 1,284

    The community does this frequently. Get in hysteria over something with no official source.

  • JagoJago Member Posts: 1,418

    Yes, nothing has been released. Like the console optimization patch.

  • ProfoundEndingProfoundEnding Member Posts: 2,298

    The leaker isn't wrong. Currently in the game files, they do not stack. A patch will likely come out soon that will fix that.

    The leaker even said they posted that with the hope it was a mistake and would be changed.

  • MysticwarriormjMysticwarriormj Member Posts: 93

    The first bit is the ultimate pessimistic mind set (which has worked for me in real life). Also this will be my first event so I have no expectations lol.

  • FreudentraumaFreudentrauma Member Posts: 1,044

    Behaviour already released a bunch of official information towards the event on their broadcast event. https://deadbydaylight.com/en/news/5th-anniversary-broadcast-round-up

    Assuming that we will see much more than what is know right now, is basicly speculation itself. And the information that was given is quite clear how similar both events will be. As long nothing additional has been announced, it makes sense to go by the current information given and discuss and criticize Behaviours plans based on that.

    And like said. The Cake leak, was more of a datamine, and is kinda a fact as well, that the way the cakes work currently in the game files, that they don't stack. Criticism might have been overblown. I agree. Especially because the actually information wasn't shared properly. But still it's a fact. Even if it doesn't come directly from Behaviour themselfs. Doesn't have to be.

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