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DUDE it is not a fact that GG is for trolling. GG = GOOD GAME. Nothing more nothing less. It's been that way for the last 20 years of competitive gaming. You are the only only assuming anything. Intention is irrelevant when you take it at face value like a normal ######### person.
Like talking to a wall. A very thick wall that twists every possible thing someone says as being toxic BM. I have been playing competitive games since 2002, and have played games against others online since the early 90's. I have NEVER seen someone say GG as a way to be toxic. Literally never. If someone plans to be toxic, GG is the last thing they would ever say.
As killer I play OP killers (Nurse and Hag) and I either get a 'fix ur ping' excuse (when they all had ping >150) or I get a massive list about why Nurse needs a nerf. No GG, only happens when last guy gets hatch. As survivor, killers normally say GG back if they win. Or if they lose, they instantly quit or they give me a bucketload of salt. I only never say GG if I need to get into another game quick, if I gtg or if I cba waiting for the game to finish.
@thesuicidefox said:
DUDE it is not a fact that GG is for trolling. GG = GOOD GAME. Nothing more nothing less. It's been that way for the last 20 years of competitive gaming. You are the only only assuming anything. Intention is irrelevant when you take it at face value like a normal [BAD WORD] person.
Like talking to a wall. A very thick wall that twists every possible thing someone says as being toxic BM. I have been playing competitive games since 2002, and have played games against others online since the early 90's. I have NEVER seen someone say GG as a way to be toxic. Literally never. If someone plans to be toxic, GG is the last thing they would ever say.
What does the "LOL" reaction mean in the Dead by Daylight forum?
Simple fact is I say gg to be nice. I can't control how someone perceives it. I don't do it for self gratification. I do it because it's polite. I'm sorry that you've met some toxic players but it's not going to stop me from giving a genuine gg.
When I 'gg', I usually add in 'gl on your next game' to avoid the problem where they assume my statement was made with sarcasm.
If they still assume I'm being sarcastic after that there's probably nothing positive that I could say that they wouldn't take as sarcastic. That's their fault, not mine.
@KatFever78 said:
Simple fact is I say gg to be nice. I can't control how someone perceives it. I don't do it for self gratification. I do it because it's polite. I'm sorry that you've met some toxic players but it's not going to stop me from giving a genuine gg.
"I don't do it for self gratification"
"I'm sorry that you've met some toxic players but it's not going to stop me from giving a genuine gg"
So you don't care about the other guy; it's all about what you want to do. That's self-gratification.
@KatFever78 said:
Simple fact is I say gg to be nice. I can't control how someone perceives it. I don't do it for self gratification. I do it because it's polite. I'm sorry that you've met some toxic players but it's not going to stop me from giving a genuine gg.
"I don't do it for self gratification"
"I'm sorry that you've met some toxic players but it's not going to stop me from giving a genuine gg"
So you don't care about the other guy; it's all about what you want to do. That's self-gratification.
Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. You want to find a reason to be offended so have at it.
@KatFever78 said:
Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. You want to find a reason to be offended so have at it.
I'm just pointing out what you're saying. The interaction is between two people: yourself and the guy you're talking to. You don't care what the other person thinks, so only one person matters to you - yourself. That's what @xmenfanatic was saying as well.
Simple fact is I say gg to be nice. I can't control how someone perceives it. I don't do it for self gratification. I do it because it's polite. I'm sorry that you've met some toxic players but it's not going to stop me from giving a genuine gg.
"I don't do it for self gratification"
"I'm sorry that you've met some toxic players but it's not going to stop me from giving a genuine gg"
So you don't care about the other guy; it's all about what you want to do. That's self-gratification.
Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night. You want to find a reason to be offended so have at it.
You’re glossing over the fact you are doing it for self gratification, maybe not on a conscious level, but habitually. Often times politeness is perceived as kindness even though in reality they aren’t one in the same. Doing something and saying that it doesn’t matter if you offend someone is a statement that blatantly disregards someone’s feelings and provides you with the satisfaction of being kind, even though you very well may not be and could be offensive.
Maybe “gg” isn’t th exact issue, but with what you have said you are putting your own self interest over the receiving party’s interest.
It doesn’t make you a bad person because a lot of societies enforce the idea that politeness is kindness, but it’s truly developed as a social structure that works off of suppressing voices and forcing a level of acquiescence.
If you genuinely care, you’ll do more to actively communicate. If you don’t care about them and don’t want to bother, you’re choosing to actively do something that will upset certain people.
Once again, you can be selfish, but own it and don’t pretend it’s coming from an altruistic place. Own the fact you’re doing it for yourself, or own the fact you’re okay with upsetting some people for the sake of maybe letting others know you had fun.
@xmenfanatic Because it's entirely reasonable to expect someone to know every possible reaction to things they say, especially things that are universally considered to be good manners. It's not at all the problem of the person that gets offended at literally nothing, it's all the fault of the person that said it.
You guys are so desperate to be right when the simple fact is people say GG they mean GG. How someone interprets that is not their problem. I shouldn't have to explain my intentions in-depth to every single person I meet in order to spare their feelings.
“If someone tells me that I’ve hurt their feelings I’m still waiting to hear what your point is.” - Christopher Hitchens
OP says GG meaning good game and suddenly is responsible for how the receiver will interpret the message? Come on guys! He, or She (most probably) is actually being a kind player or trying at least. What's the problem with that? It's the reader's responsibility to understand that as a Good Game or as a Git Gud. And if you seriously want to know, just ask directly.
What I find funny about this conversation is how someone can argue that politeness and kindness are two different things and turn around and say someone doesn't care when what they actually said is they can't help how they take a gg. "I can't help how someone feels" is not the same thing as "I don't care how someone feels." Don't play the meanings game and get things wrong yourself.
Like most people are saying, GG means GG. It is in no fault of the sender, nor should it be, how the GG is perceived.
If a survivor/killer is NOT playing toxic, it is no fault of their own if the other takes it the wrong way. On the other hand I do understand is that survivor/killer IS being toxic and sends a GG that it COULD be mistaken even if it was a ment well.
What I find funny about this conversation is how someone can argue that politeness and kindness are two different things and turn around and say someone doesn't care when what they actually said is they can't help how they take a gg. "I can't help how someone feels" is not the same thing as "I don't care how someone feels." Don't play the meanings game and get things wrong yourself.
Like most people are saying, GG means GG. It is in no fault of the sender, nor should it be, how the GG is perceived.
If a survivor/killer is NOT playing toxic, it is no fault of their own if the other takes it the wrong way. On the other hand I do understand is that survivor/killer IS being toxic and sends a GG that it COULD be mistaken even if it was a ment well.
Exactly! I can't help how they perceive my GG, but it doesn't mean I don't care. If I didn't care I wouldn't have said GG to begin with.
I understand that there are toxic players in the game. I've run across many myself. Your outlook on life must be pretty grim if you're assuming all players are toxic and everything they say is toxic. You must be fun at parties.
OP says GG meaning good game and suddenly is responsible for how the receiver will interpret the message? Come on guys! He, or She (most probably) is actually being a kind player or trying at least. What's the problem with that? It's the reader's responsibility to understand that as a Good Game or as a Git Gud. And if you seriously want to know, just ask directly.
Exactly. And yes, I'm a she...lol It's sad that I have to write a novel to explain why I said GG so as not to offend anyone. 🙄
I'm on PS4. On the rare occasion a survivor sends me a "gg," I say "gg" back. It only ever happens if I farm with them, though. I've never gotten a "gg" for killing them.
I do wish people would say more than "gg." When I respond to a "gg," I'll usually expand on it, like "gg thanks for farming with me." I've been confused at times as to what the sender means. Just something as simple as "gg I had fun" would be great for conveying sincerity.
However, if you're just going to say "gg ez," keep it to yourself.
@Wolf74 said:
From my experience the survivor posting "gg" only mean that to their mates, not the killer.
@Orion said:
I've rarely had Survivors say "GG" seriously. It's either to the other Survivors, as @Wolf74 said, or to mock the Killer. So yeah, it's difficult to assume good faith when the majority proves they don't do it to be friendly.
Gee, I WONDER why? Could it be because you're both so bad at playing killer, you feel you HAVE to camp, thus ruining the other players experiences?
This game is the main reason why I have my messages on PS4 set to only friends can message me. One time I got somebody who told me I wasn’t camping with Freddy while his buddies were doing a a tree glitch on the Red Forest map. Some “GG” are legit but a lot are sarcastic.
This is always a touchy topic due to the abuse to many have gone through.
When I'm playing on PS4, I very rarely message the killer directly, and pretty much only when I had a particularly amazing game and I wanted to tell them that. Console players get really apprehensive about pm contact, but generally seem to relax a bit easier than pc players once they know you're not a jerk.
When I'm playing on PC, I always leave a "ggwp!" along with some type of text emote to make it clear that I'm being genuine. There are times I get lashed at for it, but I would say at least 80% of the killers I play against loosen up or at least remain guarded and civil. I've gotten lots of killers saying that they were waiting for some scathing remark and were surprised to see it was real, and it makes me feel good to know that I could show them a courtesy that so many others don't.
It also helps that I'm not toxic in game and I also say 'ggwp' regardless of whether I escaped or died. My advice is to not give up on common courtesy, just try to find a way that others respond to in a mostly positive manner.
@Wolf74 said:
From my experience the survivor posting "gg" only mean that to their mates, not the killer.
@Orion said:
I've rarely had Survivors say "GG" seriously. It's either to the other Survivors, as @Wolf74 said, or to mock the Killer. So yeah, it's difficult to assume good faith when the majority proves they don't do it to be friendly.
Gee, I WONDER why? Could it be because you're both so bad at playing killer, you feel you HAVE to camp, thus ruining the other players experiences?
Nah, couldn't be.
HAS to be the survivors fault
Gee i wonder since when players stopped being responsible for their ######### behavior?
Got camped? Atleast try not to sound salty when you tell him how to play, despite that you don't have the right to decide for him anyway.
I've played so many matches and sent the killer a GG afterwards only to not receive it back. I don't care if I was sacrificed or I escaped. If it was fair and a challenge I try to be nice. Why can't some people just send it back? If I play killer I always respond with the same. Just confused as to when this game stopped being fun and cordial. 🤔
To me it's a matter of respect and this community lost it ages ago so no gg from us killers
The majority of games I have are with good sports. They usually say gg at the very least. And no matter what, I always ALWAYS say "Gg wp, gl on your next. Hf."
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DUDE it is not a fact that GG is for trolling. GG = GOOD GAME. Nothing more nothing less. It's been that way for the last 20 years of competitive gaming. You are the only only assuming anything. Intention is irrelevant when you take it at face value like a normal ######### person.
Like talking to a wall. A very thick wall that twists every possible thing someone says as being toxic BM. I have been playing competitive games since 2002, and have played games against others online since the early 90's. I have NEVER seen someone say GG as a way to be toxic. Literally never. If someone plans to be toxic, GG is the last thing they would ever say.
As killer I play OP killers (Nurse and Hag) and I either get a 'fix ur ping' excuse (when they all had ping >150) or I get a massive list about why Nurse needs a nerf. No GG, only happens when last guy gets hatch. As survivor, killers normally say GG back if they win. Or if they lose, they instantly quit or they give me a bucketload of salt. I only never say GG if I need to get into another game quick, if I gtg or if I cba waiting for the game to finish.
What does the "LOL" reaction mean in the Dead by Daylight forum?
When I 'gg', I usually add in 'gl on your next game' to avoid the problem where they assume my statement was made with sarcasm.
If they still assume I'm being sarcastic after that there's probably nothing positive that I could say that they wouldn't take as sarcastic. That's their fault, not mine.
"I don't do it for self gratification"
"I'm sorry that you've met some toxic players but it's not going to stop me from giving a genuine gg"
So you don't care about the other guy; it's all about what you want to do. That's self-gratification.
I'm just pointing out what you're saying. The interaction is between two people: yourself and the guy you're talking to. You don't care what the other person thinks, so only one person matters to you - yourself. That's what @xmenfanatic was saying as well.
You’re glossing over the fact you are doing it for self gratification, maybe not on a conscious level, but habitually. Often times politeness is perceived as kindness even though in reality they aren’t one in the same. Doing something and saying that it doesn’t matter if you offend someone is a statement that blatantly disregards someone’s feelings and provides you with the satisfaction of being kind, even though you very well may not be and could be offensive.
Maybe “gg” isn’t th exact issue, but with what you have said you are putting your own self interest over the receiving party’s interest.
It doesn’t make you a bad person because a lot of societies enforce the idea that politeness is kindness, but it’s truly developed as a social structure that works off of suppressing voices and forcing a level of acquiescence.
If you genuinely care, you’ll do more to actively communicate. If you don’t care about them and don’t want to bother, you’re choosing to actively do something that will upset certain people.
Once again, you can be selfish, but own it and don’t pretend it’s coming from an altruistic place. Own the fact you’re doing it for yourself, or own the fact you’re okay with upsetting some people for the sake of maybe letting others know you had fun.
@xmenfanatic Because it's entirely reasonable to expect someone to know every possible reaction to things they say, especially things that are universally considered to be good manners. It's not at all the problem of the person that gets offended at literally nothing, it's all the fault of the person that said it.
You guys are so desperate to be right when the simple fact is people say GG they mean GG. How someone interprets that is not their problem. I shouldn't have to explain my intentions in-depth to every single person I meet in order to spare their feelings.
“If someone tells me that I’ve hurt their feelings I’m still waiting to hear what your point is.” - Christopher Hitchens
OP says GG meaning good game and suddenly is responsible for how the receiver will interpret the message? Come on guys! He, or She (most probably) is actually being a kind player or trying at least. What's the problem with that? It's the reader's responsibility to understand that as a Good Game or as a Git Gud. And if you seriously want to know, just ask directly.
Like most people are saying, GG means GG. It is in no fault of the sender, nor should it be, how the GG is perceived.
If a survivor/killer is NOT playing toxic, it is no fault of their own if the other takes it the wrong way. On the other hand I do understand is that survivor/killer IS being toxic and sends a GG that it COULD be mistaken even if it was a ment well.
I understand that there are toxic players in the game. I've run across many myself. Your outlook on life must be pretty grim if you're assuming all players are toxic and everything they say is toxic. You must be fun at parties.
I'm on PS4. On the rare occasion a survivor sends me a "gg," I say "gg" back. It only ever happens if I farm with them, though. I've never gotten a "gg" for killing them.
I do wish people would say more than "gg." When I respond to a "gg," I'll usually expand on it, like "gg thanks for farming with me." I've been confused at times as to what the sender means. Just something as simple as "gg I had fun" would be great for conveying sincerity.
However, if you're just going to say "gg ez," keep it to yourself.
Tbh it doesn't really mean anything.
Gee, I WONDER why? Could it be because you're both so bad at playing killer, you feel you HAVE to camp, thus ruining the other players experiences?
Nah, couldn't be.
HAS to be the survivors fault
Who the ######### cares? It doesn't mean anything either way.
I have found "qq" is easier than "gg"
What does that mean?
I think it's cool having female players in the community, and being kind is a good thing too.
When I'm playing on PS4, I very rarely message the killer directly, and pretty much only when I had a particularly amazing game and I wanted to tell them that. Console players get really apprehensive about pm contact, but generally seem to relax a bit easier than pc players once they know you're not a jerk.
When I'm playing on PC, I always leave a "ggwp!" along with some type of text emote to make it clear that I'm being genuine. There are times I get lashed at for it, but I would say at least 80% of the killers I play against loosen up or at least remain guarded and civil. I've gotten lots of killers saying that they were waiting for some scathing remark and were surprised to see it was real, and it makes me feel good to know that I could show them a courtesy that so many others don't.
It also helps that I'm not toxic in game and I also say 'ggwp' regardless of whether I escaped or died. My advice is to not give up on common courtesy, just try to find a way that others respond to in a mostly positive manner.
Got camped? Atleast try not to sound salty when you tell him how to play, despite that you don't have the right to decide for him anyway.