I think DBD outgrew BHVR's capability to handle it.
BingBongMan
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For the most part BHVR never anticipated DBD growing as big as it has. If I remember correctly that was stated by one if the devs a while back, could be wrong though.
Whatever the case, we as a community are feeling their inability to handle this game. Whether it be through the copious amount if bugs that pop up every update, and sometimes take years to fix. through updates that seem to have very little thought to the balance of the changed object. Or through promises that never seem to be kept, as is the case with console optimization.
I want to see this game succeed, that's why I bother to be vocal on the forums. But I just don't think BHVR is a company that is capable of making DBD succeed anymore.
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I disagree, and I think it's a testament to BHVR's ability to handle the game that it has only grown since launch, despite people saying stuff like what you just said all the time.
I disagree with your disagreeing, I know the devs are trying their best. But this update has highlighted the reasons BHVR isn't capable to me anymore.
They released a buggy as hell chapter ( again x9??) That made the game near unplayable for console users as a result of spaghetti code they have refused to clean up for years. The update even made PC players lag, which is a testament to how they can make even high end PC's struggle to run DBD.
Even with subsequent hotfixes it made the lag worse on consoles. While at least helping with PC's issues, if the forum goers aren't wrong.
Now they've activated what is supposed to be one of the 2 BIG events of the year. Only for that event to rob you of spent bloodpoints and shards, and the main objective of that event to be non functional on certain original characters. Not to mention how the event is a copy/paste of last years event with some extra stuff duct taped on. Yes they fixed those bugs, but it shouldn't have released in that state in the first place.
The 3 recent chapters in a row is not handling the game well.
Not to mention console getting shafted with this update and its hotfixes.
orion has a very disconnected and romantic view of the game and its developers so
I fail to understand how bad events, buggy chapters, lack of transparency, useless visual downgrades, and straight failures to listen to the community are a testament to BVHR's ability.
I don’t know about that. Binding of kin and all kill were mediocre and resident evil was a bugfest
It's nothing to do with what they can or can't handle, it'd the fact that the engine was so poorly coded and they are forced to keep adding more onto it to make sure their investors are seeing those quarterly numbers yet the foundation can't handle it.
Until BHV finally rewrite the game from the ground up it's gonna get worse and worse and no management can prevent it
I would highly suggest watching this video if you haven't already. Puts everything I want to say into words.
The fact they keep pumping out content DLCs every 3 months and have it be a bugridden mess should show you that they are not able to handle the game.
They need to slow the ######### down. They're not Overkill, they can't just make a single map and say "it's done!"
They need to make DLCs beefier, but over a longer period of time. Not 3 months. 3 months is way too quick in dev time.
This is when they need to be firing on all cylinders. Theres 100k people playing this on steam right now, thats 40k more than rainbox six siege. The game is huge.
No, I've just been around long enough to have heard the same thing so often, it's kinda lost its punch.
So you're numb? That's not healthy.
I suppose that's fair. I'd love to hear your tone if you played the game on last gen (or an unlucky PC) though. Same with a few other people here. This time is objectively different, and it's telling that they're capable of releasing a patch this bad despite years working on the same game.
I'm not sure you wanna go there. My experience is usually bug-free, no matter the game, with rare exceptions. Furthermore, the fact that I don't experience them doesn't mean they aren't there. I recognize that they are, I just think, like with every other time* that people claimed the sky was falling, it's being blown out of proportion.
*Except when DbD apparently caused some consoles to shut down due to overheating. That was actually quite serious.
You can only hear the boy cry "wolf" so many times before it stops having an impact. It's a normal human response.
I feel like that boy cride wolf story is a bad representation. It shows more laziness and bitterness on the adults than that of the child being in the wrong. Taking it to the extreme, If you replace the child with a group of people and the wolf with something awful like sexual assault the story blames the victim, and it blames it out of actual laziness.
Now back down to earth with something significantly less serious, dbd. Is it fair to ignore people who raise valid concerns and have rightful emotions towards a product because of the few who were a bit too extra? That's blaming the victim, it's not something you should be numb to. That's why I say it's unhealthy
I'm not blaming anyone, nor am I ignoring valid concerns. I'm dismissing the notion that DbD would somehow be "better" (a nebulous term whose meaning depends on the person using it) if another developer had control of it. That's what I've said, is it not?
But you dismissed it under the notion that youve heard all the complaints before. That BHVR is doing well "despite people saying stuff like what you just said all the time." This came off to me atleast as dismissive, specifically dismissive towards people's complaints.
Orion is demonstrably false as well, they still haven't fixed the lag despite them "wOrKiNg On It" AND the anniversary event has bugs as well.
No other company consistently ads major issues every single update.
Also the case. BHVR's track record has been bad and it's gotten worse for a game that is going to be developed "for years".
No, the notion was that I'd heard many people claim that DbD would be better off under a different development team before.
I've been with this game for 4 years, no other company has screwed up this much and are still being defended as much as BHVR.
If it were any other company I guarantee it would be different.
They have the money to hire new staff. There's no excuse.
I see bhvr attacked everywhere tho.
They've boasted about having more staff. The big stream a while back where they showed off the RE trailer with Meg getting thrown around had them actually saying "we increased our staff to 300".
Which looks bad on them no matter what because:
To me at least that's not how it read. The post is a complaint at heart with the solution of giving dbd to someone else. You're posts seemed to target the complaint and not the solution at face value. If there was a different intent then my b, I still disagree and find the argument even less sound in this different context. Why would the idea illicit such a numbed response? If anything it would be cool to just think what another dev team could do. What a AAA team could do, because let's be honest we've yet to see a AAA attempt at this genre.
They get defended by regulars with high post counts on these forums.
Orion, TheClownisKing, there are others I'm forgetting.
They need more artists because they only truly care about one thing in this game: SKINS
Well, I apologize for not being clear.
Evolve was a AAA attempt at this genre. It failed because of corporate greed. Is that what you want for DbD?