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Loss of Trust

KayTwoAyyKayTwoAyy Member Posts: 617
edited July 2021 in Feedback and Suggestions

It is extremely disappointing to see premium cosmetics (Auric Cells Only) offered for free in the Rift.

As a paying customer, I feel betrayed and undervalued.

The premium sticker tag tells me that only real-world money can buy this item, and no amount of time invested in the game will help me unlock my purchase. It is a signifier that this item is one-of-a-kind (even if it exists in a virtual mass market), and therefore holds intrinsic value as a product which I can possess.

I do not support this kind of dubious practice. I will not be paying for future content.

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To those who may be drinking the Kool-Aid, cosmetic retexturing/recoloring is a very simple task. Depending on the complexity of the model, a single artist could create 3 to 10 different texture variants of a single model in one day.

Cosmetics with color & texture variants have grown in popularity as in-game purchases because they are incredibly low-cost to make while creating wider appeal for a cosmetic line.

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Most companies recognize that when customers purchase a cosmetic at a premium they are paying for the exclusivity of an item. Part of a product's value is derived from the amount of versions available.

The more options available, the lower the value of the product.

This is a concept I'm sure many of you are familiar with, as taglines like "One-of-a-Kind" or "Only X number of copies have been made" are popular selling points for lucrative items.


BHVR has said "to hell with exclusivity" and undermined the value of all their products with the decision to include premium products for free.

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Comments

  • MadmegMainMadmegMain Member Posts: 105

    Auric cells have been in every rift #########?

  • KayTwoAyyKayTwoAyy Member Posts: 617
    edited July 2021

    Exclusive (adj.) - restricted in distribution, use, or appeal because of expense

    Do I need to hold your hand and teach you how items behind a paywall are exclusive, or are you going to stop trolling?

  • InListInList Member Posts: 85

    Which cosmetic are you talking about?

  • indieeden7indieeden7 Member Posts: 3,068

    Why do some people have an issue with this? Both the Nea and Hillbilly cosmetics have quite significant differences to their original versions. Not only that but it isn't like buying the original cosmetic pieces prevents you from getting the rift versions.

  • KayTwoAyyKayTwoAyy Member Posts: 617

    I'll take your 8k forum posts as a sign that you and I both continue to invest a lot of time in Dead by Daylight DESPITE its glaring imperfections.

    I may take issue with BHVR's design decisions, but something about the game keeps pulling me back in. So as long as I am playing, I am inclined to indulge myself every once and a while with the world building, cosmetics and characters the game has to offer.

    As a consumer, I don't want to waste my money on any product I know I can receive for free.

    By including premium cosmetics in the Rift for free, BHVR has made it clear that I can expect any and all cosmetics to eventually be made available free of charge in the future. Therefore, I no longer have a reason to spend money in their store. I don't need things RIGHT NOW. I can wait until they are free.

    They have lost me as a customer for this reason, and I think anyone with enough self-control would be wise to save their money as well and just wait until their favorite skin is given to them for free.

    The Hillbilly cosmetic is hardly a significant change. It is the same exact skin, with different textures. I didn't buy Beach Boy Billy for the texture on his shirt--I bought it for the beach vibes. The texture might be different, but what I paid money for is being offered for free.

  • ShirokinukatsukamiShirokinukatsukami Member Posts: 1,624

    Stuff hidden behind a paywall aren't exclusive.

    There are tons of games out there where "premium" stuff you pay real money for are also accessible without paying money.

  • MadLordJackMadLordJack Member Posts: 8,815
    edited July 2021

    Actually, I barely touch DbD any more. I physically cannot play killer since this last update, but that barely effects me since I hate playing killer. And I'm burnt the ######### out of survivor to, since my teammates are either complete potatoes or, more commonly, attempt to set genspeed records and generally act like douchebags, predropping every pallet so I've got nothing or just straight up sandbagging me because that's also unpunished.

    I've just been hanging around the forums coasting on my 2 hours of DbD a week, hoping shite's gonna change before I get sick of this game completely.

    Edit: and you know what? I've been in this situation with other games and an apology and some openness from the Devs goes a long way. It's nice to feel like the people you've spent the last few years supporting actually give a crap about the people they've been lying to.

  • Mario3784Mario3784 Member Posts: 3

    I'm getting to that point where I'm going to stop playing dead by daylight it is unfair for survivors I don't like playing killer why do Killers like to body camp there should be a penalty if you play unfair

  • KayTwoAyyKayTwoAyy Member Posts: 617

    I literally defined the word exclusive for you. When something requires money to obtain, it becomes exclusive.

    The more an item costs, the more exclusive it becomes.


    Items can also cost nothing at all and be exclusive--as is the case with Legacy Skins.

    If people were to attribute a value to Legacy Skins, they would cost more than any other skin in the game because they are the most exclusive item in DBD. But they are not the only exclusive item in the game.

  • ShinobuSKShinobuSK Member Posts: 4,065

    What skins are we talking about here?

    Also

    What thread are you replying to? Certainly not this one

  • MushwinMushwin Member Posts: 4,165

    I feel your pain, I made a post called, How can this happen? sharing my anger at bought cosmetics now free in the rift, I wont be buying cosmtics with auric cells again.

  • ShirokinukatsukamiShirokinukatsukami Member Posts: 1,624

    And like I've literally told you, these items are not exclusive because they can be obtained without money.

    If a money can be had without spending money, it becomes less exclusive.

    You yourself defined the things you are complaining about as being free in the Rifts. So I suggest you think about what you're saying a little before more people start realizing how wrong it is.

  • VampwireVampwire Member Posts: 492

    I see it more as BHVR seeing a way to improve the rift in a really cheap way. I don't think the intentions were to screw anyone over, but to address the fact that most rifts have just been charm collecting simulators. People have been demanding that the battle pass become an actual battle pass instead of just filler content to make an extra buck. I'm glad that we got new skins, but this was not the right way to go about it.

  • KayTwoAyyKayTwoAyy Member Posts: 617

    Last Rift there was a blue version of the Jeff Mad Max cosmetic. You had to buy the Rift, but that rubbed me the wrong way because he is already so light on his own unique cosmetics.

    This Rift, the free Billy skin is just a retexture of a $7 skin that can only be bought with Auric Cells.

    I'm sure there may be others in the past that I was unaware of.


    Why are you wasting your time trolling this thread?

    This entire post is calling attention to the issue of exclusive skins being made free for all.

  • meatisadelicacymeatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,919

    I thought this post was going to be about dogshit killers who pretend they're farming just to get kills because they can't actually earn them otherwise.

  • meatisadelicacymeatisadelicacy Member Posts: 1,919

    lol, yeah it's been happening a lot to me lately, weirdly. Just had a Pig do it. I almost feel bad for killers like that because they're that bad at the game, but at the same time, it's a scummy thing to do. I'm not going to help any killers from now on when they decide to farm. I'm doing gens and I'm out. It's boring, and I'm not going to give killers easy BP and then easy kills too because they decided to betray that trust. NO SIR.

  • SonicOfflineSonicOffline Member Posts: 875

    I mean, you gave us a definition of "exclusive." You didn't tell us who told you it was.

  • PredatedPredated Member Posts: 2,546

    Oh boohoo. BHVR wants to give their playerbase access to popular skins by reskinning it.

    As both of you guys said, reskinning isnt really a hard task. The original model was already available.

    Not including the fact that many, MANY exclusive skins that were previously available only to people who went to pax, which is a very exclusive part of the audience, leaving codes for those skins on ebay for 1000$.


    BHVR has, time and time again, stated that they do not want exclusivity. Money is still a border for exclusivity, hence why they give popular skins a reskin and make it available to those who play the game extensively.


    If you're that horny for exclusivity that you want to exclude anyone with not enough money, go buy Apple products.

  • kate_best_girlkate_best_girl Member Posts: 2,184

    I mean why does it matter? You get an extra recolor option if you want. I would NEVER buy the green Nea hair but I ADORE the Blonde hair in the rift rn. Having more options is always good.

  • gendossgendoss Member Posts: 2,235

    Yeah I just checked the rift and I felt the exact same thing. Honestly most of the stuff in the premium track is pretty bad or meh. I think I'm going to actually stay in the free track this time because the stuff they offer is actually really good. The free track is full of paid cosmetics that I already own so yeah I feel pretty bad about wasting money. I don't know if I can trust buying cosmetics again if they're just going to give them for free a couple months later.

  • DemonDaddyDemonDaddy Member Posts: 3,332

    Goes to show there is no reason to rush n buy cosmetics at release, unless to support the game. Wait awhile and the item or retexture will come around.

    Have patience and save a few bucks.

  • CometTheOddCometTheOdd Member Posts: 6

    Its not the exact same thing though. There is a difference between them and all. They are similar, yeah, but not the same. I might be missing something, but yeah

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