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Legion is "designed" as an anti chase killer.

akbays35akbays35 Member Posts: 1,123

The moonwalk exploit is the only way he's viable and it has no decent counter. Survivors will either be downed from deep wounds or forced to mend and be downed regardless, the Devs need to rework his power asap. If players have to walk backwards in order to down a survivor then Legion suffers from flawed design.

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  • DoultimeDoultime Member Posts: 82
    Cancel m2 at their face after applying deep wounds and m1 them. That is my strat and works well. Some addons make this strat even better
  • alivebydeadightalivebydeadight Member Posts: 1,559

    you literally just described the fact that his counter is the same as spirits ability, literally walk so they cannot follow your tracks

  • White_OwlWhite_Owl Member Posts: 2,763
    edited December 2018

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs

    I watched him gameplays and he mostly face potato survivors. I'm at rank 1 and survivors treat the legion as a joke. Sure it happens to get a team of random potatoes, but my experience tells me he is not a threat at all to competent survivors.

  • OrionsFury4789OrionsFury4789 Member Posts: 637
    Monitor and abuse is golden on legion 
  • DoultimeDoultime Member Posts: 82
    Im running M&A and discordance everytime. Hoping to get thanatophobia in the bloodweb or third seal III
  • MyNamePeteMyNamePete Member Posts: 752

    @akbays35 said:
    The moonwalk exploit is the only way he's viable and it has no decent counter. Survivors will either be downed from deep wounds or forced to mend and be downed regardless, the Devs need to rework his power asap. If players have to walk backwards in order to down a survivor then Legion suffers from flawed design.

    he applies pressure, not every killer is meant to just chase survivors.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 5,136

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs

    tru3 gets 4ks with every killer, even freddy. you cant bring up a person as an argument who literally does nothing else but playing DbD all day...
    like, that proofs nothing...

    on the other hand, due to the fact that players like TydeTyme dont play 24/7 anymore, their opinion hits the fanbase better, as they are closer to them on a skill scala.
    and i still think TydeTymes opinion of this game is pretty accurate. besides his hag placement in the tier list, i havent seen much i disagree with in his videos...

  • DwightsLifeMattersDwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,662
    Mister_xD said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs

    tru3 gets 4ks with every killer, even freddy. you cant bring up a person as an argument who literally does nothing else but playing DbD all day...
    like, that proofs nothing...

    on the other hand, due to the fact that players like TydeTyme dont play 24/7 anymore, their opinion hits the fanbase better, as they are closer to them on a skill scala.
    and i still think TydeTymes opinion of this game is pretty accurate. besides his hag placement in the tier list, i havent seen much i disagree with in his videos...

    First of all, tru3 plays every killer like 10 minutes every 2 days cuz he plays killer and survivor in rotation. Secondly he doesn't 4k all time. So ur "it proofs nothing" can go to the bin 🚮 

    Also, ur a but illogical to take an opinion of someone who doesn't have a clue (tydetime) over someone who is more skillfully. 
    But sure, let's balance around the noobs so everyone can feel like a really good killer no matter what
  • DwightsLifeMattersDwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,662
    White_Owl said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs

    I watched him gameplays and he mostly face potato survivors. I'm at rank 1 and survivors treat the legion as a joke. Sure it happens to get a team of random potatoes, but my experience tells me he is not a threat at all to competent survivors.

     hmm, everytime when someone brings up tru3 and he wins against a killer people yell "the killer was trash" and when tru3 plays the same killer against swf teams and wins people yell "the survivors were trash"
  • DwightsLifeMattersDwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,662
    yeet said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs

    yet tru3 agrees that he's weak lmfao

    Where did he said that? He said he's doing good with him 
  • Mr_MyersMr_Myers Member Posts: 422

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs

    he is an amazing player, hands down. Majority of players aren't as god as him. he can make nay killer seem good, he even got a 4K with fat Myers when most players might be luck to get 1. Player skill ≠ killer viability.

  • RSBRSB Member Posts: 2,258

    "anti-down" or "anti-win" I would say. Or "pro -being-bullied/cucked" at least.

  • yeetyeet Member Posts: 1,704

    @MyNamePete said:

    @akbays35 said:
    The moonwalk exploit is the only way he's viable and it has no decent counter. Survivors will either be downed from deep wounds or forced to mend and be downed regardless, the Devs need to rework his power asap. If players have to walk backwards in order to down a survivor then Legion suffers from flawed design.

    he applies pressure, not every killer is meant to just chase survivors.

    he applies less pressure than a regular killer, because mending is faster to do yourself than self caring

  • yeetyeet Member Posts: 1,704

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Mister_xD said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs

    tru3 gets 4ks with every killer, even freddy. you cant bring up a person as an argument who literally does nothing else but playing DbD all day...

    like, that proofs nothing...

    on the other hand, due to the fact that players like TydeTyme dont play 24/7 anymore, their opinion hits the fanbase better, as they are closer to them on a skill scala.

    and i still think TydeTymes opinion of this game is pretty accurate. besides his hag placement in the tier list, i havent seen much i disagree with in his videos...

    First of all, tru3 plays every killer like 10 minutes every 2 days cuz he plays killer and survivor in rotation. Secondly he doesn't 4k all time. So ur "it proofs nothing" can go to the bin 🚮 

    Also, ur a but illogical to take an opinion of someone who doesn't have a clue (tydetime) over someone who is more skillfully. 
    But sure, let's balance around the noobs so everyone can feel like a really good killer no matter what

    many players more skilled than tru3 also agree that legion sucks

  • DwightsLifeMattersDwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,662
    yeet said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Mister_xD said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs

    tru3 gets 4ks with every killer, even freddy. you cant bring up a person as an argument who literally does nothing else but playing DbD all day...

    like, that proofs nothing...

    on the other hand, due to the fact that players like TydeTyme dont play 24/7 anymore, their opinion hits the fanbase better, as they are closer to them on a skill scala.

    and i still think TydeTymes opinion of this game is pretty accurate. besides his hag placement in the tier list, i havent seen much i disagree with in his videos...

    First of all, tru3 plays every killer like 10 minutes every 2 days cuz he plays killer and survivor in rotation. Secondly he doesn't 4k all time. So ur "it proofs nothing" can go to the bin 🚮 

    Also, ur a but illogical to take an opinion of someone who doesn't have a clue (tydetime) over someone who is more skillfully. 
    But sure, let's balance around the noobs so everyone can feel like a really good killer no matter what

    many players more skilled than tru3 also agree that legion sucks

    Go watch damnnohtml recent video, u can see how broken Legion is. He's absolutely skillles to play has nearly no counterplays in 1v1. The counterplay is genrush but every slow movement killer has this problem. 
    Also, can u name some streams/youtuber who r much better than tru3 and said this? Want to watch their statement aswell
  • RSBRSB Member Posts: 2,258
    edited December 2018

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    yeet said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Mister_xD said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs
    
    
    
    tru3 gets 4ks with every killer, even freddy. you cant bring up a person as an argument who literally does nothing else but playing DbD all day...
    
    like, that proofs nothing...
    
    on the other hand, due to the fact that players like TydeTyme dont play 24/7 anymore, their opinion hits the fanbase better, as they are closer to them on a skill scala.
    
    and i still think TydeTymes opinion of this game is pretty accurate. besides his hag placement in the tier list, i havent seen much i disagree with in his videos...
    
    
    
    First of all, tru3 plays every killer like 10 minutes every 2 days cuz he plays killer and survivor in rotation. Secondly he doesn't 4k all time. So ur "it proofs nothing" can go to the bin 🚮 
    
    Also, ur a but illogical to take an opinion of someone who doesn't have a clue (tydetime) over someone who is more skillfully. 
    

    But sure, let's balance around the noobs so everyone can feel like a really good killer no matter what

    many players more skilled than tru3 also agree that legion sucks

    Go watch damnnohtml recent video, u can see how broken Legion is. He's absolutely skillles to play has nearly no counterplays in 1v1. The counterplay is genrush but every slow movement killer has this problem. 
    Also, can u name some streams/youtuber who r much better than tru3 and said this? Want to watch their statement aswell

    Ardetha, ScottJund, TydeTyme and maybe Monto.

    I don't remember what Zubat and Marth said, but you can check them out too, they probably think the same.

  • HarshOnion44HarshOnion44 Member Posts: 30
    I just frenzy them all to death. 
  • DwightsLifeMattersDwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,662
    RSB said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    yeet said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Mister_xD said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs
    
    
    
    tru3 gets 4ks with every killer, even freddy. you cant bring up a person as an argument who literally does nothing else but playing DbD all day...
    
    like, that proofs nothing...
    
    on the other hand, due to the fact that players like TydeTyme dont play 24/7 anymore, their opinion hits the fanbase better, as they are closer to them on a skill scala.
    
    and i still think TydeTymes opinion of this game is pretty accurate. besides his hag placement in the tier list, i havent seen much i disagree with in his videos...
    
    
    
    First of all, tru3 plays every killer like 10 minutes every 2 days cuz he plays killer and survivor in rotation. Secondly he doesn't 4k all time. So ur "it proofs nothing" can go to the bin 🚮 
    
    Also, ur a but illogical to take an opinion of someone who doesn't have a clue (tydetime) over someone who is more skillfully. 
    

    But sure, let's balance around the noobs so everyone can feel like a really good killer no matter what

    many players more skilled than tru3 also agree that legion sucks

    Go watch damnnohtml recent video, u can see how broken Legion is. He's absolutely skillles to play has nearly no counterplays in 1v1. The counterplay is genrush but every slow movement killer has this problem. 
    Also, can u name some streams/youtuber who r much better than tru3 and said this? Want to watch their statement aswell

    Ardetha, ScottJund, TydeTyme and maybe Monto.

    I don't remember what Zubat and Marth said, but you can check them out too, they probably think the same.

    Pls go right now to scottjunds youtube channel and watch his last video 
    Ardetha, a good nurse player, everything else average (he plays only pig and myers besides nurse sooo)
    Tydetime, u kidding me? He is not even close to tru3s skilllevel lol
    Monto isn't better than tru3
    Link me something from Marth and Zubat, not gonna search by myself in VODs lol
  • thesuicidefoxthesuicidefox Member Posts: 7,888

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Go watch damnnohtml recent video, u can see how broken Legion is. He's absolutely skillles to play has nearly no counterplays in 1v1. The counterplay is genrush but every slow movement killer has this problem. 
    Also, can u name some streams/youtuber who r much better than tru3 and said this? Want to watch their statement aswell

    To be fair, the survivors in his video did manage to get 4 gens. And the Bill gave up in 2 chases and kept getting found which hurt them. David also use Deliverance when Scott was relatively close, then ran right past him almost. His points were that 1) this is the ONLY effective way to play Legion, 2) there is no counterplay, and 3) Legion is not fun to play/play against. 1 is absolutely false, just by watching TrueTalent you can see there are other equally/more effective tactics with Legion. 2 is likely false, the killer JUST came out so obviously there will be a learning curve for survivors to figure out what to do against him. Like I said in a comment under his video, when Pig came out everyone said the counter to her would be to 99% gens. But today that is not at all the case. Survivors just finish the gen anyway then remove the trap. Just like any other human on the planet, Scott can't predict what the future will bring. And you can't reliably come up with the most effective strategy in 2 days. You just can't, IDC how good of a killer you are or how many hours you have. 2 days is NOT enough time to make that call. Just like it's not enough time to make the call that such a strategy has "no counterplay". Maybe now, but I highly doubt that to be the case in 2 months. "Oh if you're so smart Fox what's the counter play then?" Dude IDK, it's been 2 days. I don't have an answer there but I know that people WILL find a way to counter these tactics. I've been around competitive gaming long enough to know that the first tactics to show up are not actually the best tactics, and by no means are they unbeatable. Those sorts of things come later, after people dig into the game. Then we get to 3, which is just like, his opinion man. Fun is subjective, again I point to True as evidence that Legion is fun for some people. Regardless of how powerful True thinks Legion is, he says every video he has fun with him. Does that mean everyone has fun with/against him? No, it just means you can point to the extremes and say "this is the case for all".

  • akbays35akbays35 Member Posts: 1,123

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs

    I watch Trus vids all the time. Im not saying Legion is strong or weak, his power is designed to end chases one way or the other by leaving a survivor hit with deep wounds to get another or tunneling them with deep wounds. This is problematic for both survivor and killer because it shuts down the fun aspect of this game which is hiding and chasing. In this regard he's actually superior to Clown since he can apply pressure quickly to one or two other survivors and go back to focusing one while the others are mending. This also forces survivors to stop all benevolent actions and just focus on gens in a wounded state since healing is pointless.

  • UnicornUnicorn Member Posts: 1,664
    RSB said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    yeet said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:

    Mister_xD said:

    @DwightsLifeMatters said:
    
    Go watch tru3ta1ent how hes doing pretty consistent 4ks so far at rank 1. He did 14 or so. Don't go and watch tydetime and other noobs
    
    
    
    tru3 gets 4ks with every killer, even freddy. you cant bring up a person as an argument who literally does nothing else but playing DbD all day...
    
    like, that proofs nothing...
    
    on the other hand, due to the fact that players like TydeTyme dont play 24/7 anymore, their opinion hits the fanbase better, as they are closer to them on a skill scala.
    
    and i still think TydeTymes opinion of this game is pretty accurate. besides his hag placement in the tier list, i havent seen much i disagree with in his videos...
    
    
    
    First of all, tru3 plays every killer like 10 minutes every 2 days cuz he plays killer and survivor in rotation. Secondly he doesn't 4k all time. So ur "it proofs nothing" can go to the bin 🚮 
    
    Also, ur a but illogical to take an opinion of someone who doesn't have a clue (tydetime) over someone who is more skillfully. 
    

    But sure, let's balance around the noobs so everyone can feel like a really good killer no matter what

    many players more skilled than tru3 also agree that legion sucks

    Go watch damnnohtml recent video, u can see how broken Legion is. He's absolutely skillles to play has nearly no counterplays in 1v1. The counterplay is genrush but every slow movement killer has this problem. 
    Also, can u name some streams/youtuber who r much better than tru3 and said this? Want to watch their statement aswell

    Ardetha, ScottJund, TydeTyme and maybe Monto.

    I don't remember what Zubat and Marth said, but you can check them out too, they probably think the same.

    I watched Monto play a few games with him and he did pretty well vs Red Ranks. Not saying that this means The Legion doesn't need tweaks, just saying that they are playable until the devs look at him/her.
  • Biohazard258Biohazard258 Member Posts: 4
    Doultime said:
    Im running M&A and discordance everytime. Hoping to get thanatophobia in the bloodweb or third seal III
    Same! Also Bamboozle seems to be incredibly useful on them. I've gotten more 4 kills than anything else running these three perks plus some random one like Blood Warden or Rancor.
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