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Increase in hackers/cheaters.

MarigoriaMarigoria Member Posts: 4,031

I've commented in various threads before about not finding a lot of hackers in game (for context I have 4,635 hours and I'm on PC).

It used to be quite rare to see hackers and cheaters in game, but the last few weeks, there has been an increase in these, specially people who insta heal, teleport to hooks without dying so the killer cant hook someone else, speed hacking and even spamming cheats to a point your game freezes.

Like I mentioned, I'm on PC, in the EU region. Last 2 weeks I have encountered at least 4 hackers, when before, in 4k+ hours I had only seen about 3 of them. These only counting with the super obvious one, like I mentioned above.

It's obvious the current anti cheat system is being bypassed way more easily now.

Anyone also seeing an increase?

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  • MarigoriaMarigoria Member Posts: 4,031

    It's weird because in so many hours, these past weeks I have seen as much as I have in years.

    Just earlier I had a spirit that would know where everyone was, slugged everyone and then got everyone up, just to slug everyone again, she did it like 4 times. No one had unbreakable and people would just insta heal. This person had 300 hours, so it's not like they were using a smurf account to do it.

    Same with a nancy that would hook herself on the hook a twins was trying to hook other people. It's just weird how aggressive with showing the hacks these people have become, almost like they know they arent going to get punished anyway.

    And no problem :)

  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 5,049

    I have a theory that the number of hackers haven't really increased, it's just that higher MMR players are seeing them a lot because obviously hackers are going to win every game and thus have high MMR. But yeah, I had a match with a speedhacking Nea who somehow still died to me, and a Claire with no hitbox while on a gen, 20 second flashlight blinds, and a DS every time I went to pick her up.

  • MarigoriaMarigoria Member Posts: 4,031
  • MarigoriaMarigoria Member Posts: 4,031

    They seem to be hacking cosmetics now too, since I just saw a feng with an unreleased skin (you can see her kind of behind me on the floor, with one of the skins that have been leaked. I do not see it in the store right now so I'm assuming it was hacked).

    Same thing as another game, after we were all downed, we kept getting up and being instantly healed, even though no one had unbreakable. It was probably the feng doing it as well.


  • DeshDesh Member Posts: 1,118

    I have run into a lot more lately than I have over the years. Granted a lot of people hack anyways, but they typically do it discreetly. Running into overt hackers just bewilders me and the frequency of it is even more baffling.

  • kyogulkyogul Member Posts: 491

    Similarly in my <2k hours before this mmr test I only encountered one hacker on the same day multiple times, but I kept getting their lobby in solo queue so it couldn't be avoided.

    Since this mmr test, I've had multiple hackers within the past week.

    My piece of advice: if someone is being really cocky in your face like flashlight clicking, ignore them habitually. If they jump into a locker in your face while they're near you, DO NOT LET THEM STUN YOU. Do not even attempt to grab them; they can insta hack head on which will freeze your game and they will hold you hostage until you dc. Ignore them completely.

  • BabuDweetBabuDweet Member Posts: 553

    You know I'm on xbox and have around nearly 2.5k hours on my main account and for the first time ever I experienced hackers. I was playing demo, only for a daily.

    Got two legacy hackers that wall hacked, speed hacked, heal hacked, hook hacked. Floating, under the map etc... also froze the game for a period of time then one of the hackers actually dc'd cause I refused to do so. I wanted my bps after all that bs I got put through


    I have never experienced anything like that in my life.

  • TacitusKilgoreTacitusKilgore Member Posts: 1,381

    Bwsted has a good point. The increase in hackers is likely due to a variety of factors, but one of the primary ones would be the patching of modding. Malicious modders saw that they could no longer subtly cheat, and the ones who were trully commited to their cheating resorted to more brazen methods. Some of these are a lot more simple though, like auto-great skill checks and such. Harder to detect since a lot of these folks were in it for the subtlety. Theres also the fact that the modding patch publicized how lenient EZanticheat is, which popularized the knowledge amongst common cheaters that the game will tolerate a lot of blatant hacking before it bans you. We are mostly aware that both of these are factors because of some new hacks coming into play recently. You may have seen hackers becoming second killers in lobbies, very unusual stuff.

  • EvilJoshyEvilJoshy Member Posts: 5,106

    I've had the game for 4 years on PC but I only have like 1k hours on it. I concur I only saw maybe 2 people who were clearly hacking and a lot of people who had some suspicious stuff but nothing concrete. I hardly play anymore unless friends want to swf so I wouldn't know if there is a rise in hackers lately. If there is an increase I can only think of the RE chapter. That probably drew in a good chunk of new players. The more people you have playing a game, the greater the odds of getting a hacker.

  • ThraxThrax Member Posts: 841

    There've been reports of people streaming hacking and bragging about it without a care in the world.


    WE NEED BETTER HACK DETECTION THAN EAC OFFERS. It shouldn't RELY on players recording every single match they play.

    It'll be a lot of math and a lot of programming but it should be possible for them to see for instance a person downed and healed several times in as many seconds. Are they self unhooking without deliverance or slippery and luck addons to the point that it seems impossible. Did they head on without the perk equipped? How long did they spend at 150% or greater speed vs whats possible for the length of the match?


    If they really are tracking in game actions for SBMM these sort of things can be added and sent to another table to check them against. Then just a little upkeep if notes are kept is all that's needed when perks are added or adjusted.

  • anonymous31337anonymous31337 Member Posts: 192

    Yes. I have nearly 3000 hours and play since june 2019 (steam, EU region). Except for lagswitchers, I only played against 2 obvious cheaters before 5.0.0 patch. Since RE chapter I play with or against at least 3 cheaters a week.

    I even recently played against a survivor that was able to send chat messages from my account (or they just changed their nickname in chat without changing steam nickname). I hope BHVR mods can see who was the real author of those messages.

    The worst thing is that I can't even report anyone, because I don't record my games (alt-tab crashes nvidia shadow play for some reason)...

  • PhoxPhox Member Posts: 206
    edited August 2021

    Agreeing with a lot of people that I’ve seen more hackers in the last 2 months than I have since I got the game in 2018. The worst ones to go against aren’t the obvious hackers, the ones using subtle hacks for speed and such are so much more detrimental to gameplay and even harder to report since unless they screw up and do something obvious it’s hard to prove they’re cheating.

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  • kisfenkinkisfenkin Member Posts: 308

    Yes, since before the anniversary. The day before it started someone hacked in the new cake. A week or two before that I faced an infinite sprint burst steve. Too many for me to have time to report and provide video evidence for them all. My son faced a team that had infinite dead hard and the players could NOT be hooked (he had to just carry them around until they wiggled free).

  • DeadByFrameLagDeadByFrameLag Member Posts: 56

    Unfortunatly, this game is almost 95% CLIENT-SIDE. EasyAntiCheat isnt enough. From my opinion there should be EAC and BattleEye both. EAC always had many many problems with detections, is not a good anticheat, everyone knows that.

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