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Sorry, but I need to tunnel and proxy camp
fogdonkey
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I tried to play nice and "survivor friendly"... But it just doesn't work. I can't afford 4 people to sit on gens. Survivors are not playing "killer friendly", they are just pushing gens without even healing. Especially these SWFs are completely destroying me.
Maybe it is also because I play weaker killers like Trickster. Sometimes it takes a lot of time until I manage to down a competent survivor. And if they run to the shack, I am usually just forced to give up the chase, because the gens will be flying.
Anyway... I just start to hate this game.
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I don’t even see why it’s shunned or people feel the need to apologize for it.
If the survivors want to get all the gens done in 5 minutes, then the killer can get the kills done in 2 minutes.
It’s funny because my friend, who doesn’t even play this game, doesn’t understand it either. I was showing him some of the salt on my steam page and this is the conversation…
If you want to win and are not playing the Top Tier Killers, you will have to tunnel, slug, camp or proxy camp. There is no way around it. People will whine, cry, throw insults and death threats. Ignore it all. Getting someone out of the match asap is the best way to apply pressure. You owe your opponents nothing. As long as you're not cheating, hacking or rule breaking, you have nothing to worry about. Everyone that complains about their opponents play style are just babies who are mad they didn't get their way.
I recommend you play for your fun and if you find killer no longer fun, switch to survivor. If both cause you stress, then simply find a different game.
This constant drive for "optimal" play at the cost of another player's ability to even play the game is going to be the death of DbD.
This is an issue with the ranking system, there are too many killers at red ranks.
Idk man when you're at 5 gens and you feel the need to do this Insidious
And then proceed to continue to chase after one survivor despite three others willingly placing themselves in front of a Leatherface's saw and you don't use it on them because this one survivor- who didn't tbag, click, or do anything except go down within 45 seconds- for some reason has to die, to the point where you slug them for 3 and a half minutes to ""avoid DS"" while nodding the whole time, and literally allow other survivors to do gens in your face so long as they're not healing your precious slug...
Doesn't seem like you're in the mood to win, moreso in the mood to ruin someone's session.
The problem is that is ok for one side to play optimal its just doing objectives but if the other side does it its toxic
correct me if im wrong but do we not get "toxic genrushing SWF" and "toxic tunneling killers" at least 7 times a day on these forums?
You don't need to apologize for playing the game bro. It's incredibly Survivor sided, they're spoiled rotten and what happens when you do that? They get super entitled. Playing Survivor is easy. Playing Killer is not and it's tremendously stressful. You do what YOU do as a Killer to Survive.
The nature of dbd gameplay is the killer is trying to remove survivors from the game.
People have been complaining about tunneling and camping forever and the game still hasn't died. It's not going to die from people trying to win and upsetting their opponent.
The thing is, there are an awful lot of survivors who will call you a tunneller, even if you hook 1 or even 2 survivors before you hook them again. Or they'll call you a camper if you hook them, and then a teammate loops you right around the hook, giving you no reason to leave.
There's a huge difference between the behaviour you are referring to (Insidious camping or hyper tunnel Bubba), and proxy camping the area of a hook, or going after a survivor again because you have lost 2 gens in 1 minute on Ormond, and their teammate is vastly superior at looping. Both of which however will usually result in getting the same amount of abuse in the post-game chat lol
I'm so tired of this mentality. It's not X-sided. It's simply not. And even if it was, why in the fresh blue hell can I only rely on myself and the perks I bring to survive?
Have you ever played solo survivor? I literally cannot expect my teammates to save me from the hook WITH Kindred.
Killer is allowed to do whatever is needed to win. Because unlike Survivor, Killer is actually stressful and difficult. Unless the Survivors are actual garbage, Killers like Myers aren’t getting all 3 hooks on 4 Survivors. It simply is not happening.
Thats my point all gen rushing is are survivors completely objective asap which is not really fun for a killer and all tunneling is a killer completing an objective asap both are toxic by the others standards
What mentality? It's a fact. It is Survivor sided, it very much is. Well..that's the kinda the point don't ya think? You're a Survivor in a horror game against a Killer? What exactly are you expecting here?
Yes, I am a solo Survivor main. Meaning I have only played as a Solo Survivor since I started playing Survivor. I've unlocked every teachable perk for every Survivor starting from level 1 each time, DLC included and here recently I even unlocked every Adept Survivor achievement in two days as a Solo to further prove that Survivor is easy.
Have you ever played Killer? Are you trying to downplay the sheer amount of stress a Killer has to endure by comparing it to a minor issue such as potato teammates?
Among Us: Ending a crewmate's game right then and there is literally the only way they can kill anyone at all. Additionally, dead players can still do things such as complete tasks, or as an impostor, sabotage. They're not relegated to just sitting there and watching, unlike DbD, where you're forced to just wait it out for 2 minutes to allow your teammates to stand a chance at doing their objective. Also, if I recall, Among Us also was complained about with how being the first to die is miserable.
Apex Legends: How is this even comparable? Apex is not asymmetrical. Every player in a match can be picked off at any time, and they themselves have the ability to do so as well, with any weapon. Imagine in Apex that you're downed, and you have to stay still and watch, without being able to ping the enemies' location to your teammates. And that for 2 minutes.
Play how you like but don't complain about survivors doing gens if you make no attempt to stop them.
I play both, leaning more towards Killer. I have no aspirations to become the best killer there ever was, and am under no delusion that I'm highly skilled. Yet I absolutely refuse to facecamp and tunnel. And I do fine. I don't win every match, but I don't want or need to. The worst I do is slug.
If playing killer is that stressful, you're really going into it with the wrong mentality. I don't suffer from stress at all. I recognise when my opponents are simply better than me, and leave it at that. If they use broken perks/loops/add-ons, then that's why.
Regarding the whole "sided" thing... Some aspects are sided towards one side, because they have to be. The game as a whole is not. If it was, then why do we have other players the opposite of what you're claiming?
I'm tired as well. It's like we all play only one side, where most of us play both. And even if we play only one, it's a PVP game. People play to win against other people.
I don't know. I feel too old sometimes for the forums.
I'm fine with these killer tactics, but if we're at 5 generators, do you really need to tunnel / camp? By no means am I saying you can't do it, but it's frowned upon if you do it when it's not necessary at all, especially in situations where you're not even close to losing the game.
It's just frustrating when one of my teammates DC, then the killer acts like we're going to get 5 generators done in 4 minutes and needs to wet the floor with their pool of sweat. I don't care if I still get sacrificed, but can I at least play the game before you get your 4K?
Because one side only affects the other's winrate, while the other causes the entire game's concept to fall apart.
Doing gens and camping are not comparable.
Then do it.
Have fun.
I was talking about gen rush and tunneling they are both doing objectives effectively. Camping is a dumb tactic and will lose you the game unless survivors feed the camper
It depends. Trust me, smart killers are going to camp if they want to win. That doesn't necessarily mean face camping the first survivor you have. But there are times where if you are trying to play optimally, it is the only play. And I am not just talking about end game either.
That’s definitely not true. I win the overwhelming majority of my killer games at red ranks using this basic strategy:
I literally camp and tunnel every game of DBD I play, and I will stop doing it when it stops working
It takes you 2 minutes to camp a survivor to death thats plenty of time for them to finish gens and get out. At worst they need to open the exit gate and with 3 survivors its not to hard.
And what do you do when that survivor you tunnel ends up running you for the entire game. Because anytime I try tunneling they just pre-drop every pallet and all the gens fly by.
Depends on what you consider camping most the time I hook some on i can see scratch marks nearby and look and normally find the survivor and then the rest of the team wants to show up and alot of people call that proxy camping when I'm just not going to give a free unhook
Yup I've been here where I need to eliminate someone and they almost instantly unhooked but the one off the hook was good and I had to abandon it or lose the game for maybe 1k
Well I have a lot of hours so that doesn’t really happen often. On killers I am less confident with I stack up some chase perks and that’s all I need. On all but the strongest killers I usually have at least 1-2 chase perks on.
If the survivor is really good and goes to an area that’s very strong, I leave the chase. I know all the tiles so I can tell when I should not be in a certain area if I can avoid it.
I play by a two gen rule. If there is only 2 gens left i have to eliminate someone because 3 survivor with only one gen is a sweat fest
I mean 3 survivors on gens