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  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Raccoon said:
    I didn't know an excuse was needed to camp. 

    I will update my guide accordingly. 

    Priceless, it's a good thing I wasn't drinking my coffee when I read that.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 12,679
    Killers who are prone to camping will find any excuse to camp. Survivors who are prone to rushing the hook and playing super aggressively will find any excuse to accuse the killer of camping and then BM.

    Nothing has changed. You're not better than anyone else, @Tsulan. And you really need to work on constructing logical arguments instead of being so reliant on drama, playing the victim and being divisive.
    I never claimed to be better.
    As I said in the first post. I'm curious to see if people camp more.

    I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful. 
  • se05239se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    Straight up camping more? No, perhaps not. Or perhaps?

  • UgumUgum Member Posts: 26

    On the rare occasion I play Killer, if I hook someone I just start patrolling the generators again. If there's a generator nearby, obviously I'll patrol that one first. In most cases they will save the guy on the hook and I'll just circle back and get them (usually the same guy I just hooked).

  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 13,581

    Ew no.

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Tsulan said:

    I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful. 

    I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.

  • Dragon_of_FantasyDragon_of_Fantasy Member Posts: 50
    Tsulan said:
    After the recent BBQ nerf.
    Out of curiosity. 

    Nope, still about the same amount before the nerf. Kind of sad if killers really need it when there are other builds to use. 

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 12,679
    Tsulan said:
    After the recent BBQ nerf.
    Out of curiosity. 

    Nope, still about the same amount before the nerf. Kind of sad if killers really need it when there are other builds to use. 

    BBQ is the killers WGLF. So why no use it?
  • RaccoonRaccoon Member Posts: 6,576
    powerbats said:

    @Raccoon said:
    I didn't know an excuse was needed to camp. 

    I will update my guide accordingly. 

    Priceless, it's a good thing I wasn't drinking my coffee when I read that.

    God forbid people play however they want within the confines of the game. 
  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 10,200

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful. 

    I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.

    There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
    trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging round :wink:

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful. 

    I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.

    There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
    trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging round :wink:

    I can understand that but there's been times I've been saboing a hook and a tier I Myers brings someone around a corner and to the hook I'm saboing for my daily.

  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 10,200

    @powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful. 

    I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.

    There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
    trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging round :wink:

    I can understand that but there's been times I've been saboing a hook and a tier I Myers brings someone around a corner and to the hook I'm saboing for my daily.

    Sure, that might happen once every 2 billion games. :smile:

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Master said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    I expect this change to backfire. But maybe I'm wrong. I was wrong about survivors sabotaging. No one does this, despite it being incredibly powerful. 

    I've had 1 match with someone saboing hooks or it was the new perk but generally saboing is only done during dailies. Well that and the the killer is most likely going to camp you and then afterwards apologize when they realize it was a sabo daily.

    There is a difference whether you sabo a random hook on the other side of the map of a hook the killer is
    trynig to hook his victim. AFter you denied me a hook this way, I will assume you will do so with every other hook and you can enjoy a nice slugging round :wink:

    I can understand that but there's been times I've been saboing a hook and a tier I Myers brings someone around a corner and to the hook I'm saboing for my daily.

    Sure, that might happen once every 2 billion games. :smile:

    More often than that and i've had it happen when I'm killer as well playing Shape, M&A killers are also ones that have it happen But then I usually get rid of sabo dailies anyways.

  • PoweasPoweas Member Posts: 5,873

    Idk why they nerfed BBQ it was such a good perk for weaker killers. Are they seriously going to make the game as survivor tilted as it was in September 2017? I've been asking for buffs to survivor but I only meant SOLO survivor and not these game breaking mechanics where BBQ gets hard countered by one perk? ######### devs that sucks.

  • PoweasPoweas Member Posts: 5,873

    SWF is just so strong right now it's unreal.

  • Bravo0413Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,638
    Mashtyx1 said:
    @Tsulan Not to argue because this community is just... wow. But isn't saying  "The devs gave it to killers to prevent camping." Still an excuse? Like think about it... People argue camping is bad and not making the game fun and all I see as a come back is, "it's a legitimate strategy" or "the devs gave it to us to reduce campong!" But that's just an excuse to prove your point? Without actually sitting down and having a discussion. Though I know this community and oh boy can 99% of it not actually have a normal conversation.
    How is a statement from the devs an excuse? Its prettymuch gospel of why they implemented BBQ... before BBQ camping was a massive problem... since BBQ only noob killers or killers that just wanna see the salt drip off the survivor while on the hook camp... 
  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 12,679
    Bravo0413 said:
    Mashtyx1 said:
    @Tsulan Not to argue because this community is just... wow. But isn't saying  "The devs gave it to killers to prevent camping." Still an excuse? Like think about it... People argue camping is bad and not making the game fun and all I see as a come back is, "it's a legitimate strategy" or "the devs gave it to us to reduce campong!" But that's just an excuse to prove your point? Without actually sitting down and having a discussion. Though I know this community and oh boy can 99% of it not actually have a normal conversation.
    How is a statement from the devs an excuse? Its prettymuch gospel of why they implemented BBQ... before BBQ camping was a massive problem... since BBQ only noob killers or killers that just wanna see the salt drip off the survivor while on the hook camp... 
    Amen!
  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,211

    @JanTheMan said:
    Rebel_Raven said:


    JanTheMan said:

    Aw, so this is the new excuse.

    You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right?

    If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. 
    With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results.

    Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that. 
    Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. 

    Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot    camping is a legit strategy

    If survivors are attempting to unhook someone it is. Otherwise its a waste of time.

  • UltraXUltraX Member Posts: 30

    @Raccoon said:
    powerbats said:

    @Raccoon said:

    I didn't know an excuse was needed to camp. 

    I will update my guide accordingly. 

    Priceless, it's a good thing I wasn't drinking my coffee when I read that.

    God forbid people play however they want within the confines of the game. 

    Exactly my sentiment. No one needs an excuse to play the way they want.

  • RaccoonRaccoon Member Posts: 6,576

    @UltraX said:

    @Raccoon said:
    powerbats said:

    @Raccoon said:

    I didn't know an excuse was needed to camp. 

    I will update my guide accordingly. 

    Priceless, it's a good thing I wasn't drinking my coffee when I read that.

    God forbid people play however they want within the confines of the game. 

    Exactly my sentiment. No one needs an excuse to play the way they want.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 12,679
    Nickenzie said:
    Tsulan said:
    Nickenzie said:
    Tsulan said:
    After the recent BBQ nerf.
    Out of curiosity. 
    You can camp all you want but you're gonna get gen rushed because you're not applying map pressure. Additionally, you also lose emblem points towards your Chaser category (I think, I never camped so I don't know what it takes points off of). I usually play strong killers like the Spirit who doesn't need to camp because she is strong enough to hook everyone 3 times on rotation. Overall, it comes down to your preference, if you camp then it's gonna be harder to rank up, especially against survivors who know how to punish it.
    What's the point in ranking up? Rank 1 has long queues, gen rushers, expert loopers, death squads, and no reward for getting there.

    On lower ranks you don't have those problems and even get more points.

    So why bother?
    I'll rather play at my entitled rank than derank to bully survivors with my Spirit. People who derank want easy games but they don't know that they are ruining the experience for the survivor side since they are less experienced than you.
    You wrote "I rather sit in a queue" wrong. 

    Why should I care for them? They sure as hell don't care for me.
  • PhantomMask20763PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176
    I haven't noticed any difference in my playstyle, just going after bps is my main goal, plus I still run bbq, it's all for that bonus BP. I think of it this way, the aura reading is that nice yummy steak which is the main course but then theres that delicious side of mashed potatoes that's just as good as the main thing which in this case is the bonus BP. But I love mashed potatoes more than any other side so I guess I'm a bit biased here :blush:
  • sadmuffins13sadmuffins13 Member Posts: 73
    edited December 2018
    If the killer is camping you punish them with a gen rush. That’s the counter play. To many times I see survivors try to risk their lives and pay for it. Like if it’s leatherface you know there is a high chance your being camped so be prepared LOL. If I camp it’s because I would like to solidify one sacrifice if I had a bad game or if I was dealing with a really toxic survivor. 
  • Dr_doom_j2Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    Nickenzie said:
    Tsulan said:
    Nickenzie said:
    Tsulan said:
    After the recent BBQ nerf.
    Out of curiosity. 
    You can camp all you want but you're gonna get gen rushed because you're not applying map pressure. Additionally, you also lose emblem points towards your Chaser category (I think, I never camped so I don't know what it takes points off of). I usually play strong killers like the Spirit who doesn't need to camp because she is strong enough to hook everyone 3 times on rotation. Overall, it comes down to your preference, if you camp then it's gonna be harder to rank up, especially against survivors who know how to punish it.
    What's the point in ranking up? Rank 1 has long queues, gen rushers, expert loopers, death squads, and no reward for getting there.

    On lower ranks you don't have those problems and even get more points.

    So why bother?
    I'll rather play at my entitled rank than derank to bully survivors with my Spirit. People who derank want easy games but they don't know that they are ruining the experience for the survivor side since they are less experienced than you.

    I only want to chime in on this point... The idea of a ranking system like this is stupid for that very reason. You shouldn't seperate ranks and skills of players in the first place.

    The reason some players plateau or get stuck floating at a certain rank is they don't challenge themselve against people who are better. Its basically fighting games 101, play better people and become better. And babysteppping into it as the ranks intend is a diservice to anyone who actually wants to get better.
  • Dragon_of_FantasyDragon_of_Fantasy Member Posts: 50
    Tsulan said:
    Tsulan said:
    After the recent BBQ nerf.
    Out of curiosity. 

    Nope, still about the same amount before the nerf. Kind of sad if killers really need it when there are other builds to use. 

    BBQ is the killers WGLF. So why no use it?
    I'm assuming you're questioning killers camping more because of the nerf to BBQ on aura readings due to lockers and the distortion perk.

    I can make my comment more clear with what I'm saying. If killers camp because they are upset that BBQ was nerfed on aura readings, it's sad that they can't find another build to use.
  • scorpioscorpio Member Posts: 324

    @JanTheMan said:
    Rebel_Raven said:


    JanTheMan said:

    Aw, so this is the new excuse.

    You are aware that the mechanics of BBQ, right?

    If you don't see an aura, there is supposed to be a survivor near. 
    With distortion, and lockers blocking BBQ, killers will likely get false results.

    Kinda unfair to blame the killer for that. 
    Especially if someone other than Jeff is running Distortion. 

    Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot    camping is a legit strategy

    If running around in circles is a legit strategy then yall have no room to criticize camping.

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