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Why so much Legion hate?

So during beta testing everyone was screaming that Legion was OP. And now everyone is saying he's useless, worst killer, etc.

I'm currently enjoying him a lot. I played like about 8 game's with him and 5 of them were all 4k matches. And I had at least 2 others i had at least 2 picks. And these were in top tier matches.

Now ive deranked because of the season ending, so I dont really count these current game's as a real test of skill. But not only is Legion really good, but he's a TON of fun to play. Especially if played properly. I've been watching streams of these "NUMBER 1 LEGION PLAYER IN THE WORLD I'M THE FLIPPING BEST LOOK AT HOW GREAT I AM" type streams, and they just play him like any other killer. And I'm like ??? You're playing him wrong lol. And then they just tunnel until they down a person. Which...is fine I guess? But when you're spamming your ability to catch and slap the same person over and over you're really not using Legion efficiently. You're supposed to be disruptive and all over the map.

So why don't YOU like Legion? What are your thoughts?
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  • LegitAdventurerLegitAdventurer Member Posts: 505
    I saw a lot of YouTube comments about it. 💁 I think he's tons of fun.
  • LegitAdventurerLegitAdventurer Member Posts: 505
    I still don't get why people are saying he's useless? He's basically a better The Spirit.
  • ZagridZagrid Member Posts: 999
    He sucks. Stop trying to be a rebel and saying he is good. Just accept he sucks and wait until he doesn’t suck, if that ever happens.
  • LegitAdventurerLegitAdventurer Member Posts: 505
    Im not trying to be a rebel. He's actually a decent killer. I'm not saying he's like god tier killer by any means, but he's not ######### like everyone makes him out to be. 

    As long as you play him right he can be very disruptive, especially with perks that actually compliment him(unlike his teachables)

    Sorry "better than spirit" wasn't the right term cuz Spirit is definitely high tier RN. But a different version of Spirit.

    And no i wasn't watching the Devs pre-release. I already stated it was on YouTube videos, and you know how great YouTube commenters are lol. But Legion has a strong side too him, he isn't as slow as everyone acts like he is. I agree with the devs on the "buffs" they plan to give him. And his frenzy feels like it runs out really fast, but it's pretty crazy if you catch 3 or more survivors in one general spot. His heat seeking frenzy is dope, and disruption to mend is still time away from progressing gens, and time away from healing, which means everyone is an easy one shot. Remember just because you have frenzy doesn't mean you NEED to use it at all times. Just like huntress doesn't always need her hatchets. sometimes it's just better to loop until bloodlust for an easy down.
  • IcemanIceman Member Posts: 1,458
    Zagrid said:
    He sucks. Stop trying to be a rebel and saying he is good. Just accept he sucks and wait until he doesn’t suck, if that ever happens.
    Stop trying to project the way you feel about The Legion onto others, if op believe they don’t suck then that’s okay. 

    Yes The Legion has it flaws but they could still be fun to play with. I enjoy playing The Legion, my favorite killers.
  • LegitAdventurerLegitAdventurer Member Posts: 505

    I'm just going to give my slice of this pie (that made no sense, but whatever).

    I like the idea behind Legion. A group of friends that became a Killer together. It opens up the door for so many other new Killers.
    I like how their ability is supposed to discourage tunneling by making you go after someone else.
    I absolutely LOVE vaulting over pallets as a Killer. There is just something so satisfying about that.

    With all of that said though, the execution was atrocious. Rather than get FOUR friends, we got TWO, while the other two were locked cosmetics (that look cool, and I've said before how I can understand it, but SERIOUSLY, they weren't able to fully live up to what Legion is). In addition, I've seen more people complain about Legion tunneling than I think I have ANY OTHER KILLER. So obviously, they failed at that. And (even though I can't really vouch for this, since I haven't played Survivor recently) they seem more annoying to go against and waste way too much time (from playing them, I don't think they waste ENOUGH time, but that's just me). I had pretty high hopes for these guys, but they fail at what they're trying to do.

    At least we can still vault pallets (just remove the Frenzy end for being stunned. Please).

    This is something I think is unnecessary as well, when i found about Legions lost Feral stun i was kinda like ?? But why tho? I don't think he needs the stun tbh. But it's also able to be worked around but seems to make him weaker.

    And yeah, I love the concept of a gang of Killers known as Legion, but they really turned it into a money grab, huh? 
  • FayeZaharaFayeZahara Member Posts: 965

    For me its just the lack of perk integration. From someone who loves variety kinda don't get it from them.

  • NMac309NMac309 Member Posts: 1

    Legion is an absolute horrible time to play against. He is basically a tunnel machine the way everyone is playing him. I definitely don't think this is what the developers had in mind lol

  • Rebel_RavenRebel_Raven Member Posts: 1,776
    NMac309 said:

    Legion is an absolute horrible time to play against. He is basically a tunnel machine the way everyone is playing him. I definitely don't think this is what the developers had in mind lol

    Yeah, if there are no other viable targets near by, Legion is probably going to tunnel. 
  • PluPlu Member Posts: 1,430

    Legion is really weak against competent survivor, it's been this way since he came out on the PTB, he need one Rare addon to be decent and even then he takes more time than others M1 killers to down someone, wich nullify his ability to vault and sprint mostly because of the stun being way too long, the vaulting moving you way too far forward, wich means that survivor can just get behind you and vault back (Wich makes Bamboozle almost mandatory on him imo) , and his 110 speed making him worthless for chases because survivors will loop him into oblivion (Some loops almost becomes infinites against him, like the Asylum building for exemple).

    But even with all theses flaws, i have fun playing him, i really like him.

    As for the hate, it's just the current "fun thing" to do i guess, as much as people are right about alot of things (Him being unfun to face, him being weak and all that jazz) it's mostly just a herd mentality, in 1/2 weeks they will get back into hating Nurse/Billy for being "OP" and other stuff like this.

  • AlexAnarchyAlexAnarchy Member Posts: 685

    @LegitAdventurer said:
    I still don't get why people are saying he's useless? He's basically a better The Spirit.

    Okay...now we know this dude is false...even trolls can be more subtle than to state this...

  • BlueberryBlueberry Member Posts: 10,074
    edited December 2018

    Almost everyone was saying how trash he was, not OP. Also, there's so much Legion hate because he is really trash. People are mad because the devs were already told this from the PTB and essentially did nothing and this isn't the first killer they've done this way, it's been almost all of them.

  • JackikinsJackikins Member Posts: 65

    @Zagrid said:
    He sucks. Stop trying to be a rebel and saying he is good. Just accept he sucks and wait until he doesn’t suck, if that ever happens.

    Have you ever heard of a differing opinion, or do you just try to put people down because they don't think the same way as you?

  • ZarathosZarathos Member Posts: 1,907
    Legion gets hate because people who love his look are disapointed with his gameplay. Most killers want to do what the title suggests kill. I swear some people who complain hes a tunnel machine annoys me the most his power makes him one of the easiest killers to lose i. e. he can't see scratch marks. The games i have played against him felt embarrasingly easy. Its so easy to mess with their pov when their vaulting pallets any exhaustion perk - dead hard can easily break legions comboing feral frenzy.

    Good buffs are coming on the way but the reason legion or any killer tunnels its because their desperatly trying to win and are hoping by removing one player they have a chance. 
    Tldr legion sucks as a killer so he tunnels same reason freddy is famous for tunneling. 
  • LegitAdventurerLegitAdventurer Member Posts: 505

    @LegitAdventurer said:
    I still don't get why people are saying he's useless? He's basically a better The Spirit.

    Okay...now we know this dude is false...even trolls can be more subtle than to state this...

    Someone has a different opinion than you, must be a troll.
  • LegitAdventurerLegitAdventurer Member Posts: 505
    At the end of the day Legion isnt "trash" just like the Nurse isn't "trash".  Personally i tend to walk all over the nurses i play against, but that's only because people don't know how to properly play as her. I've also seen nurses play and get consistent 4 stacks within the first few minutes of the game.. It's just a matter of who is behind the controller. I've seen plenty of Legion who were embarrassingly easy to fight against. I've also played some that actually play the character correctly and force us to spend most of the game mending, which is time we aren't on gens. I understand that his play style sometimes makes it difficult too actually get the kill, but thats mainly because people are too afraid to just chase and swing, instead of relying too heavily on his beast mode.

    What I like to do with him is try and rubber band around, make people mend which forces them off gens for enough time to actually use my beast mode to catch up to a still wounded survivor, when beast mode ends i just do a normal chase and swing getting an easy kill. During this time i can go for a more carefree chase since i know everyone is focused on mending and not actually progressing on gens. 

    TLDR: just because someone is playing a character improperly doesn't mean they're trash. 
  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    Because Freddy needs a break.

  • akbays35akbays35 Member Posts: 1,123

    I don't like Legion because if you heal, he uses his power, you don't heal, he uses his power to hit you 3 times or he sluggs. Either way you just hug a pallet and hope your team does the gens.

    Playing him is just "yeet" or "I'M SANIC!" until all the gens are done and you realize you've only downed 2 people.

  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,213
    edited December 2018

    @LegitAdventurer said:
    So during beta testing everyone was screaming that Legion was OP.

    No one said they were OP.

    Literally no one.

    @LegitAdventurer said:
    I still don't get why people are saying he's useless? He's basically a better The Spirit.

    This is dumber than when that person said Legion is better than the Clown.

  • lasombra1979lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    Personally I enjoy playing Legion. I also understand the limitations of Legion and that they are one of, if not the worst killer in the game. I would not say Legion is trash though, some little tweaking and they would be in a much better state. MS would be a good start.

  • BeanieEnthusiastBeanieEnthusiast Member Posts: 213
    Because they couldn’t 4K with him easily so they’re crying for buffs. Honestly all he really needs is 115% movement and he’ll be fine. Nevertheless, I’ve been having a lot of fun with him. 
  • LegitAdventurerLegitAdventurer Member Posts: 505
    People in comment sections are always so unnecessary lmao. Why can't people have disagreements without being so negative? Like jesus 😂 i hate playing as the Doctor, doesn't mean he's absolute ######### and that i need to ######### on anyone who likes him because obviously my opinion is the only correct one lolol. Take it easy people lol.
  • LegitAdventurerLegitAdventurer Member Posts: 505
    Because they couldn’t 4K with him easily so they’re crying for buffs. Honestly all he really needs is 115% movement and he’ll be fine. Nevertheless, I’ve been having a lot of fun with him. 
    I also think he could do well with a speed boost. I'm happy they confirmed that his beast mode, when ended early will stay at where you ended it (similar to the way The Spirit's phase is) even tho that seems like a really small change, it will be super helpful.
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