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Why is W key meta a thing?

Seriously its so boring and turn chases in to no skill situations for both sides. When I'm playing killer I see survivors w key all the time which means I have to w key after them which takes no skill and when they get to a loop they can't loop normally because they didn't learn because they just w most matches.

I just don't get it chases are the best part and they show off your skill as a killer/survivor but with this w key meta most my chases become mindless running sims.

Is there anyway to make w key less effective and bring some of the fun back to chases?

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  • GrimoireWeissGrimoireWeiss Member Posts: 1,182

    Make every map around the size of Coal Tower and Midwich. The biggest maps should only be the size of Ironworks at max.

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956

    Thats my point it takes no skill and then turns the chase into no skill for the killer.

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956

    Well yeah more like why play efficient at the cost of fun? On top of that this game really brakes down when either side tries to play efficient imo. Ok as a killer if I see you w to a strong tile across the map im probably not taking that chase. Its going to take to much time to catch you plus the loop time plus we pass like 3 really strong tiles on the way there so you have those and I'm not dealing with all that.

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956

    You can run STBL but I have to also run ruin/undying to slow down gens and bbq because I'm still grinding. Thats all my perk slots.😭

  • PurgatorianPurgatorian Member Posts: 1,137

    Bbq, ruin, pop and discordance is what I normally have to run. Stbl is for quicker hits. Do you mean play with your food?

    I do like to fiddle with bamboozle, stbl and blood warden now and again, not on the same build though.

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956

    But nurse spirits blight and deathsling sort of can close ground quickly making w less effective.

  • JasixJasix Member Posts: 1,225

    Well - it wastes the killer's time - which in turn allows gens to get done. Why would a survivor do something that could potentially end a chase much quicker? If the goal of a survivor is to get gens done and escape - why not use whatever they can to achieve this goal? Granted I think I MAYBE see this once every 5-6 matches by MAYBE 1-2 survivors.

    It doesn't bother me as killer honestly - I can recognize those who are going to do that and those who I can easily get. The problem I see with a lot of killers is not recognizing when to abandon chase and switch targets. Like most things on these forums though - this is an overused term and definitely not something I see very often in actual matches.

    Here's the thing - I don't care how people play, what perks they bring, what killer they play, items, addons - we all paid to play - so let people play how they want.

  • ABannedCatABannedCat Member Posts: 2,529

    The problem with W-meta is not that its strong, but rather that eliminates skill. A rank 20 Meghead can hold W just as good as a 7K hours Legacy Nea.

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956

    Really I see it all the time. I'm am average to below imo as a killer but I just find it boring. I find that been efficient in this game is boring and takes the fun out of it. I hate sitting on gens as a survivor I would rather try to make the crazy save or take the heat from the killer so I can learn to last longer than 30 seconds in a chase.

    I won't lie i am guilty of not dropping chases i should sometimes but I do try and recognize when I do it and stop.

    I'm not saying not to do it or its not aloud I'm a firm believer in play how you want and use what you want. Except for old DS that was all bs and I still have flashbacks of taking 4 ds in my first 4 chases.

  • ImposeImpose Member Posts: 400

    The problem is that bloodlust is a bandaid on the main problem. Which is piss poor map design. As a killer main I support removing bloodlust, but I don't support removing it while half the maps in the game basically require tier 1 bloodlust to get hit on any decent survivor

  • botraxbotrax Member Posts: 633

    Its not like BL help because they start running before the chase start so you as a player the chase is on but for the game its not you need to be at 10 or 12 meter of the survivor when he run with the LoS on him so this can take 15 to 20 sec before the game see you chasing someone

  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 5,571

    It just comes down to what someone finds fun. Some people like optimizing every part of survivor play and others just enjoy the looping aspect. Games where we only take 3 hooks and all escape are more fun to me than games where we take a bunch of unnecessary hits/hooks because of poor positioning. I hold W, run to corners when I can't extend chases anymore, and bodyblock for injured teammates who run near my gen. It's what I find fun.

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956

    I just want to say I'm a killer main and I do play some survivor but I do appreciate the point of view and understanding of more seasoned survivors. I still think trying to be as efficient as possible brakes the game. Im not saying to not try to win by all means do im competitive and will be trying to win as well. One this that does bother me though is when a survivor w keys to a strong tile and then start spaming quick actions because I won't follow them half way across the map to shack with 2 gens left and there a strong looper.

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956

    I see it all the time and I admitted that I do make the mistake of taking chases to long sometimes and that is all on me. Most of those are very situational I was playing Mikey(my fav) and all of them would just w across the map after first hit so how do I counter that if I just didn't take any of those chases I would of had 1-2 hooks?

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956

    And I find that very boring but if thats how you want to play then I respect it. I would rather have extended matches where I had good interactions with the killer and scored som decent BP and the best part is both are completely valid play styles. IMO

  • ReikoMoriReikoMori Member Posts: 2,232

    That's your anecdotal bias though. You've not seen it a lot in your games, but maybe op has seen it a lot in their games. I know I used have at least 1 survivor per match wanting to run to furthest deadzone corner. I usually just let the run and drop the chase because there simply isn't enough time to deal with that while policing gens.

    It's enough of an issue that people who don't post on the forum talk about how silly it on a regular basis. Sure it is the most efficient way of dealing with a chase on the survivor side, but it isn't engaging gameplay. Killers get constantly ran down about how they're only concerned with winning and not with making engaging gameplay by constantly going for the most efficient strategies. At least their still required to be engaging if even for a short period of time.

    That is what annoys me in dbd. We have to depend on the opposing sides to make engaging gameplay and engaging gameplay is rarely efficient gameplay when it comes to dbd.

  • Marc_go_soloMarc_go_solo Member Posts: 2,779

    Firstly, love that you choose Myers! He's vastly underrated by many.

    As for the chase, Myers is best used not to chase until hitting Tier 3, unless there's a good opportunity in sneaking up on someone. If someone is stupid enough to run in a straight line away from Myers, just hit that stalk button and boost up the tiers.

    Myers feels like an opportunistic killer who's like Trapper in that he comes into his own during the late game. That's when survivors have nightmares, especially if gen management is done right.

    Basically, your options are: 1. Stalk-stalk-stalk, 2. Observe where they like to run to (usually that could be good to remember not only for where they feel safest, but also where they may heal up if you have the gens close togethef), 3. Herd them, so approach from different angles so they become disorientated or nervous, which'll lead to mistakes and 4. Early on, encourage then to work together to get the Tier meter up quickly, so patrol some gens near to each other, then move towards a further one where (hopefully) they have grouped together because they've seen you patrol.

    Those would be the best tactics. Myers isn't a chaser, but someone who watches until the time is right. So use them running away to your advantage. It's a lot of fun to improve mind games in unique and unsuspecting ways! Oh, and also experiment. If you have a strange idea which you doubt would work, do it anyway! You may stumble across a killer tactic!

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956
  • MadLordJackMadLordJack Member Posts: 8,815

    Playing well is using your resources well, not throwing them away or outright ignoring them. Why do you think most people find comp DbD boring AF? It has almost no community coverage.

  • Gamedozer7Gamedozer7 Member Posts: 1,956

    I won't lie they were pretty decent survivors. I didn't get out of t1 for 20-30 seconds and that almost never happens. And if you w after myers get a hit you can normal make enough distance that when he stalks he's not getting much. I ended up with a 3k because they got cocky around 2 gens and then 3 gen themselves and that is not where you want to be against a 99% myers. I love myers he's been my main since almost day 1 and I'm still learning trick with him. I personally believe his snow ball is up there with oni not on par but can be close.

  • BluebirdBluebird Member Posts: 273

    I am ashamed to admit. I've been playing games since I was 2, and I never took the time to realize this is what META stands for. Thank you for teaching me.

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