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  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 10,200

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Master said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Master said:
    I disagree.

    The solution is to fix the core problems of the game and not forcing us to use perks to fix these core problems

    But devs either don't know how or don't want because will ruin the "fun".

    Or they are too lazy (hex mechanic e.g.)

    No this is the ideal way to "Balance" the game and give the killer a change.

    Yeah I love the idea of filling up two perkslots that might be completley useless after 20 seconds into the game when the survivors cleansed ruin first and ignore all other totems :wink:

  • DarkGGhostDarkGGhost Member Posts: 1,072

    @Master said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Master said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Master said:
    I disagree.

    The solution is to fix the core problems of the game and not forcing us to use perks to fix these core problems

    But devs either don't know how or don't want because will ruin the "fun".

    Or they are too lazy (hex mechanic e.g.)

    No this is the ideal way to "Balance" the game and give the killer a change.

    Yeah I love the idea of filling up two perkslots that might be completley useless after 20 seconds into the game when the survivors cleansed ruin first and ignore all other totems :wink:

    Yes , i mean they can allway give as mechanich like this with out the need of a perk but they will never do it .

  • thekiller490490thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,165
    Vietfox said:

    Nope, i do well enough with 4 perks slots.

    Why are you so anti killer? Played against a nurse too many times?
  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    Vietfox said:

    Nope, i do well enough with 4 perks slots.

    Why are you so anti killer? Played against a nurse too many times?
    @thekiller490490
    I could say the same about you since i see you supporting killers 24/7.
    I'm not anti killer, i just disagree with ideas that make no sense. If you take a look on my comments you'll see how i disagree with some buffs for survivors and agree with some buffs for killers. You guys just need to tell when something is needed and when something is not, and the 5th perk slot isn't needed at all. Why, because what you call "the viable" killers get easily 4K with 4 perks already, what would happen if they had 5 perk slots?
    I know you guys wanna defend your role and many of you (not saying you in particular) even want to buff them to the point that would require little effort to get 4K, but this is not the way to solve problems.
    And please, stop using the 4v16 perks excuse, doesn't make any sense.
    Btw, I play 60% survivor 40% killer.
    PS: replies from cellphones don't send the notification, you gotta @me the same way i did to you.
  • DarkGGhostDarkGGhost Member Posts: 1,072

    @Vietfox said:
    thekiller490490 said:


    Vietfox said:

    Nope, i do well enough with 4 perks slots.

    Why are you so anti killer? Played against a nurse too many times?

    @thekiller490490
    I could say the same about you since i see you supporting killers 24/7.
    I'm not anti killer, i just disagree with ideas that make no sense. If you take a look on my comments you'll see how i disagree with some buffs for survivors and agree with some buffs for killers. You guys just need to tell when something is needed and when something is not, and the 5th perk slot isn't needed at all. Why, because what you call "the viable" killers get easily 4K with 4 perks already, what would happen if they had 5 perk slots?
    I know you guys wanna defend your role and many of you (not saying you in particular) even want to buff them to the point that would require little effort to get 4K, but this is not the way to solve problems.
    And please, stop using the 4v16 perks excuse, doesn't make any sense.
    Btw, I play 60% survivor 40% killer.
    PS: replies from cellphones don't send the notification, you gotta @me the same way i did to you.

    We never say we want 4k, i say 5 perks on killer will give him/her the power to need to make the game more balance since devs don't want to give them actually good buff.

  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,823

    @Vietfox said:
    thekiller490490 said:


    Vietfox said:

    Nope, i do well enough with 4 perks slots.

    Why are you so anti killer? Played against a nurse too many times?

    @thekiller490490
    I could say the same about you since i see you supporting killers 24/7.
    I'm not anti killer, i just disagree with ideas that make no sense. If you take a look on my comments you'll see how i disagree with some buffs for survivors and agree with some buffs for killers. You guys just need to tell when something is needed and when something is not, and the 5th perk slot isn't needed at all. Why, because what you call "the viable" killers get easily 4K with 4 perks already, what would happen if they had 5 perk slots?
    I know you guys wanna defend your role and many of you (not saying you in particular) even want to buff them to the point that would require little effort to get 4K, but this is not the way to solve problems.
    And please, stop using the 4v16 perks excuse, doesn't make any sense.
    Btw, I play 60% survivor 40% killer.
    PS: replies from cellphones don't send the notification, you gotta @me the same way i did to you.

    We never say we want 4k, i say 5 perks on killer will give him/her the power to need to make the game more balance since devs don't want to give them actually good buff.

    As i explained before, that is not the solution.
  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @DarkGGhost said:

    We never say we want 4k, i say 5 perks on killer will give him/her the power to need to make the game more balance since devs don't want to give them actually good buff.

    But you are saying 5k if you give all killers 5 perks slots because that's the logical outcome then especially if the top 3-4 killers get played only. This idea has been suggested before and has been shot down before for all the reasons given before.

  • BeanieEnthusiastBeanieEnthusiast Member Posts: 213
    How about NO perk slots. Mind blown.
  • RaptorrotasRaptorrotas Member Posts: 2,593

    The problem on both sides isnt maybe not just the number of perk slots but maybe the sheer number of perks available. That and the power gap between some of those perks.

    One could also restrict the 5th slot in some ways.
    For example one could make the 5th slot only work for the character's own teachables. Which could also be be changed in power in that special position.

    Another solution to this problem would be to remove perks that only alter the numbers of mechanics instead of adding something new, and then slightly buffing those basic mechanics.
    Problem here is most of those changes would benefit killers as survivoperks normally have conditions or only add new mechanisms instead of boosting stuff.

  • XxAtomicAlfiexXXxAtomicAlfiexX Member Posts: 395

    that sounds fun

  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,211

    @DarkGGhost said:
    @powerbats i don't know about tinker but yes the other perk is good BUT if you want to play to win a killer need 1) ruin 2) bbq 3) maybe sloppy and this is the meta right now you only have 1 perk at best free and besides if the nurse or bill is better than you, they will still win even without perks.

    @Aven_Fallen like?

    You don't NEED those three to "win" as a Killer. But ok.

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @GodDamn_Angela said:

    @DarkGGhost said:
    @powerbats i don't know about tinker but yes the other perk is good BUT if you want to play to win a killer need 1) ruin 2) bbq 3) maybe sloppy and this is the meta right now you only have 1 perk at best free and besides if the nurse or bill is better than you, they will still win even without perks.

    @Aven_Fallen like?

    You don't NEED those three to "win" as a Killer. But ok.

    I'm not sure why I got tagged in the reply unless it was by accident.

    I never said you need those 3 to win as killer and in fact said you don't need Ruin and you're wasting a perk slot if you do. You also don't have to have Sloppy either or BBQ.

  • KukuruzaiiKukuruzaii Member Posts: 5

    @powerbats said:
    I never said you need those 3 to win as killer and in fact said you don't need Ruin and you're wasting a perk slot if you do. You also don't have to have Sloppy either or BBQ.

    I think you were tagged by accident, just because how much of a mess that quote is. But I disagree that Ruin is a waste, but it depends on your play style. But you definitely don't need any of those perks to do good, and I think the issue is the people who agree to this just think that you need the "meta" perks. So that part I agree on.

    @DarkGGhost said:
    I don't think this will make the game unbalance. I really think is one easy way to balance the game because
    1) Killers don't get buff ( at least without same nurf for no reason )
    2) They will only nerf the top perk ( work only for killers no the other way) and when buff week perks they make it work with same stupid way.
    3) Even fun/meme build can work with 4 slots, many of them need at least 3 in order to work correctly.

    Balancing a game definitely isn't as easy as you say it is. A new meta will roll in, and then the perks that were buffed will seem overpowered or "needed to win." And your argument of survivors not getting 5 perks along with killers, still doesn't make sense. If both were given 5, I think your argument would make a bit more sense, and not sound like a killer main who's frustrated by decent survivors.

  • KiraElijahKiraElijah Member Posts: 1,187
    No. First off, they’d have to add more Hex totems and spawns.
    Second, if you can’t kill them all pre- endgame base a build around it.

    Personally I play slug builds, works amazingly
  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,211
    edited December 2018

    @powerbats said:
    I'm not sure why I got tagged in the reply unless it was by accident.

    I never said you need those 3 to win as killer and in fact said you don't need Ruin and you're wasting a perk slot if you do. You also don't have to have Sloppy either or BBQ.

    I know you didn't lol. The system is acting weird. I'm getting tagged left and right because I am in quote trees. Its weird. I think that is what happened here. As an example, DexyIV quoted you in "A Quality of Life Change for Deliverance" thread. I also received a notification about this since he was quoting your post that was a response to my post, in which you quoted. :(

    Anyway @DarkGGhost said you need them though, and I was saying you don't. So You and I agree. Sorry for any confusion. lol

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @GodDamn_Angela said:

    Anyway @DarkGGhost said you need them though, and I was saying you don't. So You and I agree. Sorry for any confusion. lol

    Now irres and one thing I've found is to delete most of the quote except for the very specific things you want since otherwise it tags everyone. If 20 people are in the post as having commented and you're replying to just one it tags all 20.

  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,823
    edited December 2018

    @GodDamn_Angela said:
    As an example, DexyIV quoted you in "A Quality of Life Change for Deliverance" thread. I also received a notification about this since he was quoting your post that was a response to my post, in which you quoted. :(

    Yeah, that's exactly why. Best way to avoid this is by manually removing all the other @s when replying. Just as i did now.
    BTW, if you ever reply from cellphones note that they DO NOT send the notification by default, so you need to purposely @people every time you reply.

  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,211

    @Vietfox said:
    Yeah, that's exactly why. Best way to avoid this is by manually removing all the other @s when replying. Just as i did now.
    BTW, if you ever reply from cellphones note that they DO NOT send the notification by default, so you need to purposely @people every time you reply.

    Yea I usually do that, I just forget sometimes due to laziness. I hadn't realized it did this notification crap until recently. But thanks I'll make sure to remove them all the time as to avoid confusion in the future. lol

  • anarchy753anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,043
    edited December 2018

    Gotta say, I don't think it's necessary or even good balance-wise, but I think it'd be fun if everyone had an extra perk slot, but could only use the 10% least used perks in that slot to force some more interesting stuff to be seen.

  • suchbeanssuchbeans Member Posts: 18

    Having 5 perk slots would utterly destroy the games already gentle "balance". It sounds like your problem is more with SWF (fair) than the actual game if you feel you NEED to run ruin.
    I like to run ruin if I'm having a bad day, but I'll also ditch it since it inevitable gets destroyed unless you get a god totem spot.
    I don't have a good counter against SWF except just apply lots of pressure I guess?

  • Tru3LemonTru3Lemon Member Posts: 1,358

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @powerbats said:
    Nurse with 5 perks slots would be pretty much impossible to beat and a Billy with 5 or even Spirit with 5 would be broken.

    First only killer will get 5 perks and second tell me the ultra combo nurse and bill ( the top tier killer) will have with 5 perks?

    it seems that you didint play too much DBD the reason its that 5 perk slot for real? killers will be insane op

    nurse addons that its most famous call omega blink that soon will get a rework i hope:
    Ataxic Respiration
    Catatonic Boy's Treasure

    and for billy:
    Thompson's Moonshine
    Carburettor Tuning Guide

    those are good addons for billy i believe

  • TheWraith883TheWraith883 Member Posts: 66

    I wouldn't mind if they give the killer an extra perk slot I think yes some of the killers do need it.

  • DarkGGhostDarkGGhost Member Posts: 1,072

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @powerbats said:
    Nurse with 5 perks slots would be pretty much impossible to beat and a Billy with 5 or even Spirit with 5 would be broken.

    First only killer will get 5 perks and second tell me the ultra combo nurse and bill ( the top tier killer) will have with 5 perks?

    it seems that you didint play too much DBD the reason its that 5 perk slot for real? killers will be insane op

    nurse addons that its most famous call omega blink that soon will get a rework i hope:
    Ataxic Respiration
    Catatonic Boy's Treasure

    and for billy:
    Thompson's Moonshine
    Carburettor Tuning Guide

    those are good addons for billy i believe

    I will like to tell me the OP build of a nurse and bill or any OP killer that will break the game

  • Tru3LemonTru3Lemon Member Posts: 1,358

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @powerbats said:
    Nurse with 5 perks slots would be pretty much impossible to beat and a Billy with 5 or even Spirit with 5 would be broken.

    First only killer will get 5 perks and second tell me the ultra combo nurse and bill ( the top tier killer) will have with 5 perks?

    it seems that you didint play too much DBD the reason its that 5 perk slot for real? killers will be insane op

    nurse addons that its most famous call omega blink that soon will get a rework i hope:
    Ataxic Respiration
    Catatonic Boy's Treasure

    and for billy:
    Thompson's Moonshine
    Carburettor Tuning Guide

    those are good addons for billy i believe

    I will like to tell me the OP build of a nurse and bill or any OP killer that will break the game

    nurse

    billy:
    spirit fury,enduring,BBQ,ruin

  • DarkGGhostDarkGGhost Member Posts: 1,072

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @powerbats said:
    Nurse with 5 perks slots would be pretty much impossible to beat and a Billy with 5 or even Spirit with 5 would be broken.

    First only killer will get 5 perks and second tell me the ultra combo nurse and bill ( the top tier killer) will have with 5 perks?

    it seems that you didint play too much DBD the reason its that 5 perk slot for real? killers will be insane op

    nurse addons that its most famous call omega blink that soon will get a rework i hope:
    Ataxic Respiration
    Catatonic Boy's Treasure

    and for billy:
    Thompson's Moonshine
    Carburettor Tuning Guide

    those are good addons for billy i believe

    I will like to tell me the OP build of a nurse and bill or any OP killer that will break the game

    nurse

    billy:
    spirit fury,enduring,BBQ,ruin

    again what will be the broken build this is right now so if you can't find one more broken with 5 perks sorry but you have no point

  • Tru3LemonTru3Lemon Member Posts: 1,358

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @powerbats said:
    Nurse with 5 perks slots would be pretty much impossible to beat and a Billy with 5 or even Spirit with 5 would be broken.

    First only killer will get 5 perks and second tell me the ultra combo nurse and bill ( the top tier killer) will have with 5 perks?

    it seems that you didint play too much DBD the reason its that 5 perk slot for real? killers will be insane op

    nurse addons that its most famous call omega blink that soon will get a rework i hope:
    Ataxic Respiration
    Catatonic Boy's Treasure

    and for billy:
    Thompson's Moonshine
    Carburettor Tuning Guide

    those are good addons for billy i believe

    I will like to tell me the OP build of a nurse and bill or any OP killer that will break the game

    nurse

    billy:
    spirit fury,enduring,BBQ,ruin

    again what will be the broken build this is right now so if you can't find one more broken with 5 perks sorry but you have no point

    you still dont get do you probably since you dont know how to play killer since im a legion main i can easy kill 4k the reason by so far its that ppl that want 5 perk for killer its that are bad killers they dont know how to deal the good survivors for my self i dont get youre own point of having 5 perk for killer since killers are powerful and have good perks o well just close the post will ya

  • DarkGGhostDarkGGhost Member Posts: 1,072

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @powerbats said:
    Nurse with 5 perks slots would be pretty much impossible to beat and a Billy with 5 or even Spirit with 5 would be broken.

    First only killer will get 5 perks and second tell me the ultra combo nurse and bill ( the top tier killer) will have with 5 perks?

    it seems that you didint play too much DBD the reason its that 5 perk slot for real? killers will be insane op

    nurse addons that its most famous call omega blink that soon will get a rework i hope:
    Ataxic Respiration
    Catatonic Boy's Treasure

    and for billy:
    Thompson's Moonshine
    Carburettor Tuning Guide

    those are good addons for billy i believe

    I will like to tell me the OP build of a nurse and bill or any OP killer that will break the game

    nurse

    billy:
    spirit fury,enduring,BBQ,ruin

    again what will be the broken build this is right now so if you can't find one more broken with 5 perks sorry but you have no point

    you still dont get do you probably since you dont know how to play killer since im a legion main i can easy kill 4k the reason by so far its that ppl that want 5 perk for killer its that are bad killers they dont know how to deal the good survivors for my self i dont get youre own point of having 5 perk for killer since killers are powerful and have good perks o well just close the post will ya

    The powerful perks can and will be destroyed the first 1 min in the game legion have no counterplay so good job for playing a killer with no skill cup. 5 perks will give killers like trapper, Fredy ... a fighting chance in the other hand killers like nurse, bill ... will probably have no to little change in power lvl.

  • Tru3LemonTru3Lemon Member Posts: 1,358

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @powerbats said:
    Nurse with 5 perks slots would be pretty much impossible to beat and a Billy with 5 or even Spirit with 5 would be broken.

    First only killer will get 5 perks and second tell me the ultra combo nurse and bill ( the top tier killer) will have with 5 perks?

    it seems that you didint play too much DBD the reason its that 5 perk slot for real? killers will be insane op

    nurse addons that its most famous call omega blink that soon will get a rework i hope:
    Ataxic Respiration
    Catatonic Boy's Treasure

    and for billy:
    Thompson's Moonshine
    Carburettor Tuning Guide

    those are good addons for billy i believe

    I will like to tell me the OP build of a nurse and bill or any OP killer that will break the game

    nurse

    billy:
    spirit fury,enduring,BBQ,ruin

    again what will be the broken build this is right now so if you can't find one more broken with 5 perks sorry but you have no point

    you still dont get do you probably since you dont know how to play killer since im a legion main i can easy kill 4k the reason by so far its that ppl that want 5 perk for killer its that are bad killers they dont know how to deal the good survivors for my self i dont get youre own point of having 5 perk for killer since killers are powerful and have good perks o well just close the post will ya

    The powerful perks can and will be destroyed the first 1 min in the game legion have no counterplay so good job for playing a killer with no skill cup. 5 perks will give killers like trapper, Fredy ... a fighting chance in the other hand killers like nurse, bill ... will probably have no to little change in power lvl.

    theres a counter for legion its called no mither xd

  • DarkGGhostDarkGGhost Member Posts: 1,072

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @Tru3Lemon said:

    @DarkGGhost said:

    @powerbats said:
    Nurse with 5 perks slots would be pretty much impossible to beat and a Billy with 5 or even Spirit with 5 would be broken.

    First only killer will get 5 perks and second tell me the ultra combo nurse and bill ( the top tier killer) will have with 5 perks?

    it seems that you didint play too much DBD the reason its that 5 perk slot for real? killers will be insane op

    nurse addons that its most famous call omega blink that soon will get a rework i hope:
    Ataxic Respiration
    Catatonic Boy's Treasure

    and for billy:
    Thompson's Moonshine
    Carburettor Tuning Guide

    those are good addons for billy i believe

    I will like to tell me the OP build of a nurse and bill or any OP killer that will break the game

    nurse

    billy:
    spirit fury,enduring,BBQ,ruin

    again what will be the broken build this is right now so if you can't find one more broken with 5 perks sorry but you have no point

    you still dont get do you probably since you dont know how to play killer since im a legion main i can easy kill 4k the reason by so far its that ppl that want 5 perk for killer its that are bad killers they dont know how to deal the good survivors for my self i dont get youre own point of having 5 perk for killer since killers are powerful and have good perks o well just close the post will ya

    The powerful perks can and will be destroyed the first 1 min in the game legion have no counterplay so good job for playing a killer with no skill cup. 5 perks will give killers like trapper, Fredy ... a fighting chance in the other hand killers like nurse, bill ... will probably have no to little change in power lvl.

    theres a counter for legion its called no mither xd

    yes too bad you never know if will be a legion or not

  • doggiemandoggieman Member Posts: 36

    Nope. Being limited to 4 perks means you have to balance yourself and you aren't OP.

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