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It really isn't survivors being toxic its killers.

Jake_Parks_princeJake_Parks_prince Member Posts: 218
edited February 8 in General Discussions

Hi killer main here I'd just like to start off by saying in my 1200 hours of DBD across all 3 platforms the only one which I encountered survivors who were toxic toxic was PS4. Other then on PC i have a solid 300 hours and I've had little to no end game toxicity other then when I play survivor and the killer goes "GG EZ noob team." on my 900 hours on xbox I have received 3 end game anger chats. Thats it. It really isn't survivors being toxic because most things survivors do is well needed to survive the match. Pallet looping, is needed to live, 360's is needed to live sometimes, blinds are meh in needs, DS is a basic perk that I haven't had much problem although that may just be luck, and unhooks and body blocking are just what any altruistic survivor would do. Unless a survivor is tea bagging and constantly flash light clicking they aren't being toxic they're just doing what they can to survive. I don't camp, tunnel, or anything I still get 4 k's at rank 2 and I know you may think you aren't camping or tunneling but waiting for a survivor to get unhooked when you can easily run back and kill them is camping as well. It isn't a free unhook if you're good.

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Yikes people on this forum are more toxic then anyone on the actual game itself like some of y'all need help...

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  • JusticarJusticar Member Posts: 319

    The toxicity is caused by people framing everything in terms of killers vs survivors like they're rooting for their favorite bloody football team. I'd wager the vast majority of the playerbase (not the folks on these forums) don't play either side exclusively.

  • Jake_Parks_princeJake_Parks_prince Member Posts: 218

    @irejog said:
    Do you not think there is at least an issue with the number of pallets that spawn into the map? In my experience, it feels like I chew through at least 30 of the damn things and have to spend ages hunting survivors. I'm bearly able to maintain rank 5 so maybe map pressure is just something I haven't mastered yet. My main killer is the clown, if that matters.

    Its not the number its how close they are but don't worry the clown is an amazing loop ender soon enough you'll have no problems chewing through survivors

  • JagoJago Member Posts: 645

    @Poweas said:
    Both are toxic.

    Yes.

    That's just a cycle. And overall I think it's something that has to deal with maturity... ;)

  • RaccoonRaccoon Member Posts: 1,946
    Why must you turn this forum into a den of lies?
  • NajemniczkasNajemniczkas Member Posts: 88
    Poweas said:

    Both are toxic.

    And both are not.
    Whether someone is toxic depends on a player, not side at which they're playing.
    Sure, me and my friends call some surv builds toxic or something we do as killer/surv in kyf, but this is not literal meaning of toxicity. It's more of a joke.
    But those are players from both sides who can be toxic, not sides themselves.
  • PoweasPoweas Member Posts: 4,591

    @Orion said:
    Survivors started it, Killers retaliated in kind, now people who don't know history either claim it's Killers or both sides.

    When I joined the game, which was July 2017 (but I only got into the game in September 2017 ;)) I found only survivors to be toxic but eventually, I became a good player and that's when the toxic killers started to arise. At some point in December 2017, on Xbox, the killers became toxic on Xbox and that's when all the survivor mains, including me became sweaty tryhards and got extremely good. Noowadays, players are relaxed on xbox. That's the xbox dbd history. PC is unknown to me. I consider them both toxic right now though since there's way too much toxic killers and the toxic survivors have died down since Ochido's influence has gone down on the community since everyone has realised he's trash. I knew he was trash for ages but most people thought he was good lol.

  • Keene_KillsKeene_Kills Member Posts: 464

    Oh, don't you worry, there are plenty of hOchi piDo clones left out there who got the taste of it and now simply have to play as such; they know of no other way to play. And the devs have tended to just give them even more tools to do so as a side effect of trying to level the game out for newer, less-skilled survivors who were admittedly having a rough go of it. Balance for the new, OP bully tools for the sweat shops.

    That being said, I've been on the receiving end of a fair amount of toxic killers, as well. The difference seems to be the killers often do it as a means to an end (something that would appear toxic, except it's typically used in order to reach the trial's goal), while the toxic survivors tend to be toxic for toxicity sake (being toxic aside from, and after, reaching the goal).

  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 10,208

    @Jake_Parks_prince said:
    Hi killer main here I'd just like to start off by saying in my 1200 hours of DBD across all 3 platforms the only one which I encountered survivors who were toxic toxic was PS4. Other then on PC i have a solid 300 hours and I've had little to no end game toxicity other then when I play survivor and the killer goes "GG EZ noob team." on my 900 hours on xbox I have received 3 end game anger chats. Thats it. It really isn't survivors being toxic because most things survivors do is well needed to survive the match. Pallet looping, is needed to live, 360's is needed to live sometimes, blinds are meh in needs, DS is a basic perk that I haven't had much problem although that may just be luck, and unhooks and body blocking are just what any altruistic survivor would do. Unless a survivor is tea bagging and constantly flash light clicking they aren't being toxic they're just doing what they can to survive. I don't camp, tunnel, or anything I still get 4 k's at rank 2 and I know you may think you aren't camping or tunneling but waiting for a survivor to get unhooked when you can easily run back and kill them is camping as well. It isn't a free unhook if you're good.

    Ive tried to be a positive guy for the first 600 hours in this game.
    After that the survivors managed to break me :wink:

  • Jake_Parks_princeJake_Parks_prince Member Posts: 218

    @Zarathos said:
    Is this bait?
    So where to start
    1. gg ez is the term used by every egocentric players its never one side if your telling me you never met a survivor who also went gg ez then i want your survivours.

    1. Ds kinda promotes killers to hunt other targets that arent carrying it. Which often results in a killer targeting the person off the hook instead of going after the obssesion. If you take a ds regardless of whether or not your behind i question your legitimacy as a killer player. Slugging ds and dribbling is the best solution right now.

    2. Console players are still new to the advanced mechanics a survivour can use to survive. So mechanics like camping and tunneling will not be as important. Camping and tunneling mind you are tools in a killers kit. You dont need em for every game but if players are trying to rush hooks or are making bad saves you need to punish that misplay by downing the unhooked or force them to bodyblock.

    My advice dont ever listen to a killer main or survivour main listen to the players who play both. They will give you the fairest assesment of the game and its problems.

    I flipped sides because I couldn't handle the sheer amount of camping on survivor my most recent id say 400 hours are all on killer just because survivor became so unfun to play its like I couldn't loop, vault, pallet stun or anything so I juts gave up and said oh well imma main killer now

  • KiraElijahKiraElijah Member Posts: 1,161

    @Jake_Parks_prince said:
    Hi killer main here I'd just like to start off by saying in my 1200 hours of DBD across all 3 platforms the only one which I encountered survivors who were toxic toxic was PS4. Other then on PC i have a solid 300 hours and I've had little to no end game toxicity other then when I play survivor and the killer goes "GG EZ noob team." on my 900 hours on xbox I have received 3 end game anger chats. Thats it. It really isn't survivors being toxic because most things survivors do is well needed to survive the match. Pallet looping, is needed to live, 360's is needed to live sometimes, blinds are meh in needs, DS is a basic perk that I haven't had much problem although that may just be luck, and unhooks and body blocking are just what any altruistic survivor would do. Unless a survivor is tea bagging and constantly flash light clicking they aren't being toxic they're just doing what they can to survive. I don't camp, tunnel, or anything I still get 4 k's at rank 2 and I know you may think you aren't camping or tunneling but waiting for a survivor to get unhooked when you can easily run back and kill them is camping as well. It isn't a free unhook if you're good.

    And I have to be a killer main on the most toxic and difficult platform

  • RorschacRorschac Member Posts: 5
    Poweas said:

    @Orion said:
    Survivors started it, Killers retaliated in kind, now people who don't know history either claim it's Killers or both sides.

    When I joined the game, which was July 2017 (but I only got into the game in September 2017 ;)) I found only survivors to be toxic but eventually, I became a good player and that's when the toxic killers started to arise. At some point in December 2017, on Xbox, the killers became toxic on Xbox and that's when all the survivor mains, including me became sweaty tryhards and got extremely good. Noowadays, players are relaxed on xbox. That's the xbox dbd history. PC is unknown to me. I consider them both toxic right now though since there's way too much toxic killers and the toxic survivors have died down since Ochido's influence has gone down on the community since everyone has realised he's trash. I knew he was trash for ages but most people thought he was good lol.

    Not sure where the survivors “relaxed” but every game I get there are tryhards in. Wether that be 2/4 or even 4/4, I still get a lot of sweats :/ . I don’t know what rank you’re at, I’m a rank 4 atm, but you must get good lobbies. Anyways, I’m a killer main, but play my fair amount of survivor as well.
  • fluffybunnyfluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    As survivor or killer, I'm not toxic. I've met toxic killers and survivors, though. The same people trolling newbs and doing swf power teams are the killers bringing in moris and saying "gg ez"

  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 3,554

    Hi killer main here I'd just like to start off by saying in my 1200 hours of DBD across all 3 platforms the only one which I encountered survivors who were toxic toxic was PS4. Other then on PC i have a solid 300 hours and I've had little to no end game toxicity other then when I play survivor and the killer goes "GG EZ noob team." on my 900 hours on xbox I have received 3 end game anger chats. Thats it. It really isn't survivors being toxic because most things survivors do is well needed to survive the match. Pallet looping, is needed to live, 360's is needed to live sometimes, blinds are meh in needs, DS is a basic perk that I haven't had much problem although that may just be luck, and unhooks and body blocking are just what any altruistic survivor would do. Unless a survivor is tea bagging and constantly flash light clicking they aren't being toxic they're just doing what they can to survive. I don't camp, tunnel, or anything I still get 4 k's at rank 2 and I know you may think you aren't camping or tunneling but waiting for a survivor to get unhooked when you can easily run back and kill them is camping as well. It isn't a free unhook if you're good.

    So i’m failing to see where this idea of being a “noble” killer comes from. 
    Let me say that word again. 
    Killer. 
    K-I-L-L-E-R
    Never in film, books, or real life is a killer good, noble or fair. 
    Camping or tunneling isn’t toxic, it’s a strategy. Exploiting glitches is toxic. 
    Sorry but this game is designed in a way where it’s sensible to target injured survivors. Remember that the killers goal is to prevent escapes (via gen damage and map control), and capture and kill survivors. And the faster survivors are able to be captured and killed the easier it becomes to patrol and protect gens. 
    If a uninjured teammate is foolish enough to do an unsafe rescue before I’ve left the area then damn right I’m gonna target the rescued injured survivor. It’s just sensible strategy. 
  • Keene_KillsKeene_Kills Member Posts: 464

    Damn them for taking away the LOL response.

    If you kept a straight face while posting this, you deserve an Oscar nod.

  • BlueberryBlueberry Member Posts: 4,158

    @Keene_Kills said:
    Damn them for taking away the LOL response.

    If you kept a straight face while posting this, you deserve an Oscar nod.

    Yeah were basically allowed to do nothing but agree with each other. The PC culture of today at its finest. We can't get a snap shot of the forums opinion on anything now without reading through pages of comments. The Vote Ups are meaningless without a negative option to counter balance.

  • FayeZaharaFayeZahara Member Posts: 964
    Its killers camping and not doing anything else.
    Its survivor not taking killer seriously and butt dancing.
    Both sides are toxic as hell and making game not fun for both sides.
    Killers need some bbq and chilli perk
    Survivors need exhaustion on teabagging to learn it is not worth it.
    Both sides need to know being toxic may be fun for you but if get enjoyment on someone elses pain. Your some f***ed up bully that lame ass hasn't gotten out of elementary school phase.
  • dontfacecamp4770dontfacecamp4770 Member Posts: 4
    It's both. The new event is even more toxic. Surviors working with killers, surviors playing favorites and showing where team members are to killers. I've experienced this the last two days and seriously I'm tired of wasting my time trying to leave with a lantern only for a survior to show a killer where I am being hooked then tea bagged by that survior. It's all about greed. 
  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 3,554
    Its killers camping and not doing anything else.
    Its survivor not taking killer seriously and butt dancing.
    Both sides are toxic as hell and making game not fun for both sides.
    Killers need some bbq and chilli perk
    Survivors need exhaustion on teabagging to learn it is not worth it.
    Both sides need to know being toxic may be fun for you but if get enjoyment on someone elses pain. Your some f***ed up bully that lame ass hasn't gotten out of elementary school phase.
    It’s a horror game based on slasher films. The killer is meant to be the bad guy and a total “see you en tee”, so it’s ridiculous to moan when a killer makes the game un-fun for survivors. 
  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 11,721

    @Blueberry said:

    @Keene_Kills said:
    Damn them for taking away the LOL response.

    If you kept a straight face while posting this, you deserve an Oscar nod.

    Yeah were basically allowed to do nothing but agree with each other. The PC culture of today at its finest. We can't get a snap shot of the forums opinion on anything now without reading through pages of comments. The Vote Ups are meaningless without a negative option to counter balance.

    The problem is that some users were (ab)using bots to make that negative option meaningless by spamming it on everyone whom they didn't like. It has nothing to do with "the PC culture of today".

  • NaiadNaiad Member Posts: 180

    @DudeDelicious said:

    Never in film, books, or real life is a killer good, noble or fair. 

    Well they're killers so technically they can't be good but what you say is somewhat wrong.

    Jigsaw could be considered 'fair' in that if you escaped he let you go.
    Dexter only killed other criminals up until season 5, even after that he targets abusers and criminals. He could be considered a 'good' killer.
    And there's a real life serial killer who only targeted criminals.

    Of course they had the urge to kill other humans and therefore can't actually be good. Maybe that DbD killer who lets someone get the hatch is just made of the same killer material?

  • fluffybunnyfluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    @Orion said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Keene_Kills said:
    Damn them for taking away the LOL response.

    If you kept a straight face while posting this, you deserve an Oscar nod.

    Yeah were basically allowed to do nothing but agree with each other. The PC culture of today at its finest. We can't get a snap shot of the forums opinion on anything now without reading through pages of comments. The Vote Ups are meaningless without a negative option to counter balance.

    The problem is that some users were (ab)using bots to make that negative option meaningless by spamming it on everyone whom they didn't like. It has nothing to do with "the PC culture of today".

    LOL isn't necessarily a negative reaction, but I can understand if they were having troubles with people abusing it and had to do something to address that. I didn't know that was happening.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 11,721

    @fluffybunny said:

    @Orion said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Keene_Kills said:
    Damn them for taking away the LOL response.

    If you kept a straight face while posting this, you deserve an Oscar nod.

    Yeah were basically allowed to do nothing but agree with each other. The PC culture of today at its finest. We can't get a snap shot of the forums opinion on anything now without reading through pages of comments. The Vote Ups are meaningless without a negative option to counter balance.

    The problem is that some users were (ab)using bots to make that negative option meaningless by spamming it on everyone whom they didn't like. It has nothing to do with "the PC culture of today".

    LOL isn't necessarily a negative reaction, but I can understand if they were having troubles with people abusing it and had to do something to address that. I didn't know that was happening.

    It was primarily used as a negative reaction, so that distinction became irrelevant. And yeah, it was happening a lot. Some people had their "LOL" count increased by thousands overnight.
    The fact that it was being used as a negative reaction wasn't the problem in and of itself, despite what some may claim; it was the abuse and the bots.

  • fluffybunnyfluffybunny Member Posts: 2,161

    @Orion said:

    @fluffybunny said:

    @Orion said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Keene_Kills said:
    Damn them for taking away the LOL response.

    If you kept a straight face while posting this, you deserve an Oscar nod.

    Yeah were basically allowed to do nothing but agree with each other. The PC culture of today at its finest. We can't get a snap shot of the forums opinion on anything now without reading through pages of comments. The Vote Ups are meaningless without a negative option to counter balance.

    The problem is that some users were (ab)using bots to make that negative option meaningless by spamming it on everyone whom they didn't like. It has nothing to do with "the PC culture of today".

    LOL isn't necessarily a negative reaction, but I can understand if they were having troubles with people abusing it and had to do something to address that. I didn't know that was happening.

    It was primarily used as a negative reaction, so that distinction became irrelevant. And yeah, it was happening a lot. Some people had their "LOL" count increased by thousands overnight.
    The fact that it was being used as a negative reaction wasn't the problem in and of itself, despite what some may claim; it was the abuse and the bots.

    Did they do that to you, too?

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 11,721

    @fluffybunny said:

    @Orion said:

    @fluffybunny said:

    @Orion said:

    @Blueberry said:

    @Keene_Kills said:
    Damn them for taking away the LOL response.

    If you kept a straight face while posting this, you deserve an Oscar nod.

    Yeah were basically allowed to do nothing but agree with each other. The PC culture of today at its finest. We can't get a snap shot of the forums opinion on anything now without reading through pages of comments. The Vote Ups are meaningless without a negative option to counter balance.

    The problem is that some users were (ab)using bots to make that negative option meaningless by spamming it on everyone whom they didn't like. It has nothing to do with "the PC culture of today".

    LOL isn't necessarily a negative reaction, but I can understand if they were having troubles with people abusing it and had to do something to address that. I didn't know that was happening.

    It was primarily used as a negative reaction, so that distinction became irrelevant. And yeah, it was happening a lot. Some people had their "LOL" count increased by thousands overnight.
    The fact that it was being used as a negative reaction wasn't the problem in and of itself, despite what some may claim; it was the abuse and the bots.

    Did they do that to you, too?

    Indeed. It was to be expected, given my high post count.

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