The Reality of NFTs (coming from a geography student)
kermit_snacc_choke
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Right, so we've all heard of the NFT situation. And we know that production of NFT's incur killing off rainforests and animals within and stuff like that. But there is so much more to it than just chopping down trees.
When our trees are chopped, not only are they not able to absorb CO2 anymore, but they also release all of their stored CO2 within, which can be millions of tonnes.
Our Earth as a whole has a maximum allowance of 2 degrees celsius surplus global temperature increase, because if we go above that we are basically ######### as humanity. We have ALREADY EXCEEDED ONE DEGREES CELSIUS SURPLUS. Along with the existing increase of Carbon dioxide and other warming gasses in the atmosphere, this has a lag time of 0.6 degrees celsius surplus, so whatever we keep producing will also have 0.6 added on afterwards. This only gives us a very tiny wiggle room of 0.4 degrees celsius surplus to sort out crap out.
And clearly companies like BHVR contribute to this issue, so in conclusion, screw them. If you support this heinous act all for a skin and voicelines then you need to evaluate your morals.
No ifs and buts.
Edit: some people ask how rainforests clearing correlate to NFT's. They don't directly, but to fund BHVR, their hqs, their resources etc. they all come from somewhere, and for what? to support some ######### pixels that dont even 'come' from a demonic entity? ######### that. Especially when parts of the crypto industry is focused on ######### like NFT's. The mining of it is harmful as it is
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Don’t we pollute the environment just by driving cars as well? No outrage over that though, huh?
*Disclaimer: not a scientist, obviously*
Someone better translate this to Chinese.
theres no point using a "what about" argument because cars are fundamentally essential for most people. Youre comparing something thats practically necessary to something that has no necessity whatsoever
NFT's are pointless and motor vehicles are a necessity. Flawed comparison there chief.
I mean, nearly all electricity used to play games and power up EV batteries is sourced from oil and coal plants, so it's not like an extra few drops of oil in the ocean is going to sway us away from an impasse we are already in full motion towards ...
Humanity survived for thousands of years without any kind of gas-powered transportation.
where is the link between nft's and rainforest clearing exactly
my first positing would be that it's an unrelated issue given the power net supplying the dumb datacenters could be primarily nuclear if say in france and have little to no effect on the local or global environment
it's probably usually gas or coal though because people hate nuclear and thus their lungs, but even so, rainforests? are these nft centers cropping up in the desolated clearings of south america
i mean surely you mustve heard about global warming right... CO2 increases the global temperature?
Hasn’t that been happening since before NFTs? 🙂
First of all - that's worthless whataboutism.
Secondly, it is not optional to go from point A to point B. Vehicles are necessary - BHVR is not. Terrible comparison.
Hope all of you who are outraged over this are eating plant-based diets or you are hypocrites. Not eating animals or their secretions is the best thing an individual can do for the environment.
There are tons of things that aren’t necessary, yet we pollute the environment for it.
Not defending BHVR here, FYI.
Honestly couldn’t have said it better than this!
thats a whole seperate issue itself. there is so much unnecessary crap intergrated within our lifestyles that kill the environment but its now practically a necessity in order for different economies to move on (i.e. slaughtering animals, transporting the meat, processing it, packaging it etc.) THIS however is literally just pixel and has no usage whatsoever
This is such a stupid argument i can literally feel my IQ decreasing. Cars DO hurt the environment, there IS an outrage over it. Theres literally entire communities of people dedicated to hating on urban sprawl developments that require a car to get anywhere. Cars are awful for the environment and everybody knows it, but how about you try boycotting a car and see if you can get to work? They're a necessary evil until corporations at large downsize urban sprawl and allow for greener means of travel. Comparatively NFT's are completely useless and serve 0 purpose in comparison to things like cars, they are simply an environmentally destructive method of money laundering and nothing else. Meaning theres 0 repercussions to boycotting such an asinine form of product.
I get you aren't a scientist, but don't make stupid arguments on things you don't understand.
so because of NFTS we need to give the trees lightborn
A few more drops of oil in the ocean won't make much of a difference, so I guess it doesn't matter if we start dumping barrelfuls in daily?
NFTs exclusively use ethereum blockchain, the mining of a single ethereum transaction consumes enough energy to power the average home for several days.
So sure, it's just more energy usage, big whoop! The issue is you now consuming millions of times more energy to do something we can already do via legitimate avenues.
A bank transaction: totaly legit, legal, traceable, cheap.
NFT transaction: unregulated, untraceable, used for money laundering, costs over a million tines more energy than a bank transaction.
It's the difference between e-banking, or taking a cruise liner to Spain to deposit a check to make sure you don't get taxed.
It's totally irresponsible and only benefits the sickeningly rich.
I agree that it’s a stupid waste of resources. What I don’t agree with is singling this one out - unless you live a very environmentally conscious lifestyle, in which case you have a right to complain. However, I’m willing to bet most people here complaining don’t fit that description.
essentially LOL, but fr tho, its not even just rainforests and trees which are killed off. Crypto-mining is also included and the amount of CO2 produced is crippling. Better to just get rid of the 'flashlights'
I am currently in college with my major being Sustainability and Environmental Studies. Since 1990, our overall warming rate has almost doubled from what it was for the previous years we'd kept track. ( https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ )
The Billions of hectares (1 hectare = roughly 2.4 acres) of forests that have been cut down in almost ALL countries is astronomical. This just speeds that up even more.
We are destroying our planet. And at this point, we're getting very close to a no-turning-back situation. If we continue the way we are, the estimate is that the earth will be uninhabitable by 2100.
Don't bother. They were the same way when I made a post asking if we can just have an answer about the NTF rumor before Bhvr announced it.
Thing is, there is no relevant measurement for a single transaction because the energy use is redundant for multiple transactions. To single out only a single transaction isn't true data and narrows the scope of evidence to a moot argument.
Tell me, how many transactions can be processed in a single day and measure that energy use against the average daily homeowner energy use, please.
Im currently doing A-Level Geography (pre uni school basically) and im so glad theres others like you out there doing the same. All these people are singling out these things to be so minute but in reality its deadly.
the real argument to be made here is that we can't mobilize people to all stop using cars/trucks/whathaveyou as easily as we can ######### enough at NFTs to maybe get people to stop producing them. it's pretty damn easy to ostracize and make fun of people who're involved in what essentially amounts to a scam. a highly energy inefficient, environmentally destructive scam.
the real real argument (that people avoid saying) is the problem that 7.7 billion people (and rising) consuming the way we consume in modern society isn't sustainable whatsoever and there's nothing to be done about it without putting the vast majority of the human population in a bad spot.
you are though. you're going "yeah but what about this" as a way to diminish and demean what others are concerned about. its an underhanded thing to do.
This is correct and incorrect at the same time.
Beef, specifically, is one of the worst offenders for the planet, thanks to all the cow farts. Chickens have far less of a carbon footprint as an example.
And then you're ignoring how CO2 emissions from things like equipment to do that farming as well. The only truly "sustainable" source of nutrients are sealife, provided we don't overfish them. And even then, that depends on the types of boats that are used to do said fishing, which in and of themselves can be pollutants.
im not gonna bother going down into the nitty gritty details. You are comparing something of company level that happens constantly DAILY to houseowner level...
While yes many countries including the US are planning on switching to electric cars
Get off your high horse buddy. I’m strictly talking about people here on this forum.
Just because I don’t always write out long paragraphs to express in detail what I think or feel doesn’t mean I don’t understand what I’m talking about.
So take a chill pill with the personal attacks, please. Thanks.
Thank you! Keep goin man - we're gonna need you in the future. I'm an old guy who's shifting my careers, so I'll be dead long before you. We need people like you just as much if not more than people like me! Get 'em sir! 👊